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post #141 of 197
It wasn't until the internet message boards that it ever even occurred to me that people would think non infants in strollers were wrong. Why would anyone care? (not just this board, but this topic has come up on others too.)

I look at it a lot like extended breast feeding, as long as it is still working for you why change it just because some people might not do the same thing? Keep what works, change what isn't working. Some kids might not want to ride, my girls like the double stroller, for long distances we use it. My just turned 6 year old still enjoys the stroller (we just got back from a vacation with lots of walking.) Otherwise I use the single stroller for her 2 year old or we all walk, bike or whatever. My girls are both very small for their age, it can be hard to keep up. They are very healthy and no where close to overweight (just the opposite actually.) Maybe it is baby wearing coming back to kick me the butt, but my 2 year old always wants to be carried. She didn't walk until she was 17 months old. My back is starting to hurt. :
post #142 of 197
Sorry but.
I don't understand why it bothers you so much. I'm nor carrying my 3 year old in a sling you know.
DD2 will get tried and will make a fuzz after a while, so I just take the stroller, and DD1 gets tired to, but that's what daddy is for: But she has to get used to walk a little igit more now though.
post #143 of 197
My four year old daughter looks like a normal, healthy child.

However, she can't walk,and never will. Until her wheelchair gets here, it's the only way we can take her places. We can't carry her,because , unlike most girls with RS, she's a normal weight,and tall for her age.

I am so incredibly tired of judgement from those who really don't think before they look down on a mother.

For instance, once, when we were shopping, I had to run out of the store with my daughter, because she was having a meltdown. Sometimes, a certain noise, or light sets her off,and causes minor seizure activity in her brain. It's not always obvious, but it does upset her. Well, I was carrying her out of the store, and some woman had the audacity to say, quite loudly, "looks like a spoiled little girl isn't getting what she wants.".

If I hadn't been in a hurry to calm my child, I would have given her an earful.
post #144 of 197
Just FYI, I didn't read the whole thread, so sorry if I"m just repeating other posters.

I used to be an anti-stroller snob. As soon as ds1 could walk, I almost always had him walk or just carried him. I couldn't figure out why everyone else was still strolling their much older kids 2 or 3 blocks to the park.

Then ds2 came along. For some reason, now I have tons of back and shoulder pain. I just can't carry him as much as I would like. I often take along a stroller just in case. If I am carrying the baby and ds1 refuses to come along, I can't just pick him up any more. I need more options for getting them both moving.

We recently were in an airport and ended up carrying the 1 yo and strolling the 3 yo. He was totally overwhelmed by the commotion and tension in the airport. I could envision he would have the same reaction to a shopping mall.

So now I still minimize the amount of stroller time either of my kids get, but I"m less judgemental towards others using their strollers. I don't know the temperment of the kid, or if they're sick or tired, or the physical limitations of the mother.

That's not to say I don't think strollers are over-used. I still do. But I can only decide for my own kids where the limit is.

Lara
post #145 of 197
I didn't use the stroller for either of mine once they were over 2, mainly because I wanted to instill a love of walking and getting exercise from everyday life. It worked for us.
post #146 of 197
this thread has me wondering how far a small child can walk, i get they can walk quiet far and how heavy of a child can ii comfortably carry. i am thinking we (partner and i) will wait until after the baby is born to see if at some point we want or need a stroller. i know my partner could easily carry a pretty heavy kid but my back has some issues and it seems like all the really good carriers are made for women taller than me. i have the same problem just finding a decent backpack. (i am 4'10)
post #147 of 197
Depends on how much walking you do. I will put my 5 year old in a stroller when I am doing a brisk 5 mile walk (mainly because I actually want to get there in a decent amount of time ). On vacation I find that after 2-3 days of walking an average of 10 miles a day she starts getting tired so we will have a "rest" day where we will stroller her when she is tired then she is usually good to go for a couple more days.

That said she didn't use a stroller until she was 4, before then we could just put her in a Mei-Tai and that worked well
post #148 of 197
I walk at least 5 miles a day 3-4 days a week when the weather is good. I don't know many toddlers who can keep up with that distance. They often get out of the stroller and walk for awhile but then climb back in.

There are also days when we do that walk and then end up at the mall for whatever reason. My kids LOVE the mall strollers, which kind of give me the heebie jeebies since tons of other kids have obviously been in them. But they are so cute making fire engine sounds through the mall.

It kind of cracks me up that in a world where people F-bomb their kids, abandon them, beat them, molest them, and even KILL them that someone would judge me harshly for allowing my kids to ride in the fire engine stroller at the mall. :

Seriously. Call CPS on us stroller moms and be done with it. :
post #149 of 197
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Originally Posted by Jennifer3141 View Post
It kind of cracks me up that in a world where people F-bomb their kids, abandon them, beat them, molest them, and even KILL them that someone would judge me harshly for allowing my kids to ride in the fire engine stroller at the mall. :
I always thought the objection with strollers was directed at the parents that force their children ride in them.
post #150 of 197
Reasons my kids have ridden in strollers past the age of 3:

1. My oldest was a runner. It helped keep her safe.

2. My oldest had sensory issues. The stroller was a safe place. She would often pull the shade all the way down over herself to hide when she needed to "get away."

3. I have a very fast walking pace. I don't mind walking slow for a short while but if it's a very long distance I like to walk fast.

4. My 3yo frequently has leg pain related to her disease. If it's a bad day she will start to hurt even though her heart wants to walk and run.

5. If she's sleepy, she will often fall asleep in the stroller.

6. She weighs 37.5 pounds, and there's no way I'm going to carry her very long.

7. She loves riding in the stroller.
post #151 of 197
Because my son wants to. And that's reason enough.
post #152 of 197
My son will be 4 in a few months, and he's not special needs. He's very active, I'd say typical of his age. We do take his stroller to the store, and sometimes he rides in it, and sometimes he walks, and we just put the groceries in the stroller. He does enjoy it, and when I've mentioned giving the stroller away to a family with a younger child, he's very against the idea.

I think people here find it stranger than people would in NYC, because most people here drive everywhere, and don't do that much walking. In NYC, unless you're in the outer boroughs, you walk a lot, and it's common to see "older" kids in strollers. (This may have already been pointed out in the thread, which I've only skimmed.)

In the case of my boy, he wouldn't tolerate being in the sling for very long once he was walking (at about 10.5 months), and was much happier in the stroller thereafter. At that time, we were still in NYC, and it would have been impossible to be without a stroller. I probably walked about 4 miles a day just getting from home to the train to daycare and back, not to mention any other errands. So if I had that commute now, I'd still be using a stroller, even with him approaching 4 years old.
post #153 of 197
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Originally Posted by StephandOwen View Post
Because my son wants to. And that's reason enough.
BEST answer in this entire post.
post #154 of 197
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Originally Posted by moonfroggy View Post
this thread has me wondering how far a small child can walk, i get they can walk quiet far and how heavy of a child can ii comfortably carry.
Depends on the kid. I have recently solved a conflict between myself and the school board. They thought it reasonable for a 5 year old to walk 4km each way to school. Luckily, our doctor agrees with us that 2km each way is really pushing it for a 5 year old, and for someone with my son's medical issues, it's absolutely insane.
Whereas my brother has been taking his very high energy DS on 5-10km hikes since he was 3, making his DS walk the whole way.
post #155 of 197
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Originally Posted by Throkmorton View Post
Depends on the kid. I have recently solved a conflict between myself and the school board. They thought it reasonable for a 5 year old to walk 4km each way to school. Luckily, our doctor agrees with us that 2km each way is really pushing it for a 5 year old, and for someone with my son's medical issues, it's absolutely insane.
Whereas my brother has been taking his very high energy DS on 5-10km hikes since he was 3, making his DS walk the whole way.
that makes sense that it is different for all kids. for a long time i had thought i would never own a stroller now i look at them and my partner gets confused. i just tell him i plan to wait and see if one would be good for us. we walk everyplace. on weekends we sometimes walk 12 miles but we generally walk at a slowish pace and are not in a hurry. it seems like the only way i will know if one will be helpful for us is to wait and see. i have no problem seeing a child of any age in a stroller. i think carriers are great though.
post #156 of 197
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
I'd also like to ask you to rethink your perspective on this. I didn't mention it in my previous post, but I also have a 6 year old who you might sometimes find me pushing. He has problems with sensory integration, but from looking at him, you likely would know he had any issues (unless you saw him in the middle of a sensory overload meltdown, in which case you might think he was a brat and I was a bad mom ). Anyhow, sometimes riding is a calming force for him, just like wearing him was when he was younger. All special needs aren't visible ones.

I didn't read all of the posts, and in fact stopped at this one.
THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!!!! I have a child with SID (pretty severe, had a feeding tube, has had OT, PT and ST for most of her life) and I run with her (she is five and weighs about 30 pounds) and her younger sibling (who is 3) almost every day (about five miles or so) and this is probably the best therapy in the world for ALL of us--she enjoys the ride and really calms down and gets centered when she glides along; I save money running on the street instead of spending money at a gym (where my kids would actually have to be somewhere else while I was there--and that won't work) and my three year old actually takes a nap or can have a calm conversation with his sister while we're out--and in addition to these benefits, we've met many nice people who live along the route we travel daily and now know most of them (and their dogs) by name!
I think that there are many legitimate reasons that people do the things they do. And while on the surface they may not look like they are doing something that you would do--you might not know the reasons behind what you are seeing. It might not be what it appears to be. Make sense?
post #157 of 197
I didn't read the whole thread, but wanted to add my thoughts.

My 2 kids ride in a stroller at 2 and 3. For the most part it is only when we are going long distances or there are a lot of people. They are foster kids and it is a safety issue. If they are in the stroller I know where they are. No can come up behind and grab one. My social worker as said that bio dad has threatened to take the kids from bio mom before. So I have no idea what he would try if we ever run into him in town.

A friend of mine and I were discussing the use of stollers one day. She had taken her neice to a street fair and let her run wild. I mentioned a stoller and she lot that was horrible. My thinking was that, the street fair has a lot of people and if you let an 18 month old child run where they want it would be easy to loose her. But maybe that's just me.

Are stollers over used? You bet. But they also have their purpose. My kids like their stoller. I use a double stroller and they fight over who gets to sit in the back.

Tanya
post #158 of 197
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Originally Posted by StephandOwen View Post
Because my son wants to. And that's reason enough.
I love that answer
post #159 of 197
I never meant for this post to offend...I should have taken more time to write it clearly.

I was in a hurry when I wrote it, was trying to keep it brief and it came out TOTALLY different than I intended it to. I completely understand why people were offended...I would have been too! But please understand that I communicated poorly and was misunderstood.


I was making reference to situations that I know personally and should have been more clear. I didn't mean to come across sounding like I was saying dont use strollers or anything like that. I was just saying if you are going to the mall with a friend, to go spend a couple hundred bucks on yourself for fun, instead of making an unhappy kid (I am not talking about kids who like the stroller) sit in the stroller the whole time, get a sitter or bring someone with you. I am talking about people I know who have the resources. Of course you cant bring someone with you all the time...and I should have been clear about what I meant. Heck, I can't afford a sitter!!!
And I am certainly not talking about doing necessary errands, or any of that stuff. It is just a personal vent or me bc I have been watching a couple of my friends do this for a few years, and I just wondered if anyone else thought it was inconsiderate of the child.

I am really sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, and I apologize to those who were offended by the post.
post #160 of 197
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Originally Posted by dubfam View Post
Get a sitter or have someone come to the store with you if your 4 year old really can't handle it without being tied into a stroller.
Are you volunteering? Not everyone HAS a sitter available, or someone who can go to the store with them.
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