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post #41 of 197
The topic of this thread is very strange, but I have a 1, 2, and 3 yrold. My 2 year old is as tall as my 3 year old, and there is no way I'd even think of having him follow me around the mall. And as far as the 3yo, to me it can be a safety issue too, with 2 other toddlers running around, I can just imagine turning my back for a split second and finding one gone. Now if I only had one to keep after, I imagine it'd be easy to look at others and say "why are they doing that? Its so easy to let them walk." . But seeing 4 year olds in strollers seems like an odd thing to be irked by.
post #42 of 197
I can see where a question like this comes from, because it does seem that in this generation many parents use strollers for their children at older ages than in previous generations, just as many children are in diapers longer. It is odd in this society how children are simultaneously pushed to grow up too fast (clothing, academic curriculums pushed to earlier grades, etc.) while being "babied" longer in other areas. When I was a child, it was rare to see a child older than 2 1/2 in a stroller. Among our friends and family members that used strollers, once the child walked fairly well, sometime during the second year, the stroller was no longer used. So it does always look odd to me when I see a larger child in a stroller, especially if there does not appear to be a younger sibling around, and I do tend to wonder if the child is ill or has an injury.

My godson is almost four, and he sometimes insist on riding in a stroller even when it is inconvenient for everyone else. Last week my 20 month old and I were with him and his mother, and he wanted to be pushed in the stroller, even though his mother was carrying heavy bags and could not do it. My toddler ended up pushing him - it was quite a sight.
post #43 of 197
Interesting that this topic should come up. Our DD will be 3 in August and our pediatrician recommends that parents drop the stroller at age 3. In any event, she walks most of the time anyway so should not be an issue but I was thinking that perhaps for the odd trip/vacation somewhere the stroller will be handy, even when she is 3 or 4 years old.

Other than that, I find the idea of pushing a normal (non-special needs) 4 year old in a stroller kind of strange. A 4-year old should be able to walk in the mall just fine without a stroller. And if the child gets tired, why not just sit down a while so that everyone (parents and child) can relax?

The only other good reason I can think of for having a stroller with a much older child is to carry the coats and bags.
post #44 of 197
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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
just a quick question: we've been to the mall a few times recently, and i keep seeing kids 3-4 years old or more being pushed around in strollers. they all look like healthy kids who can walk. not to be a b*t*h, but what's up with that? is this a way for parents to keep their kids "contained"? are the kids too lazy to walk?
my son is 3 and autistic...he looks perfectly normal though, he can't handle the # of people in a mall walking if it is on the busy side (mid-day in the middle of the week he does fine), he totally melts down and hits his head against a wall if he is walking and there are to many people. He however loves his stroller, even if there aren't many people he will usually walk for a few minutes than climb into the stroller for the rest of the trip, it makes him feel safe.

fwiw i slinged him (but he still got the choice between sling and stroller) till i got pregnant and thought that wearing a 28lb toddler didn't exactly fit my doctor's definition of "modified bedrest".
post #45 of 197
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Originally Posted by cmlp View Post
Other than that, I find the idea of pushing a normal (non-special needs) 4 year old in a stroller kind of strange. A 4-year old should be able to walk in the mall just fine without a stroller. And if the child gets tired, why not just sit down a while so that everyone (parents and child) can relax?l
Well, you never know what that 4 yo was doing before getting to the mall. Although sometimes a break can give everyone a rest, other times it just prolongs having a tired cranky child out and it is better to get errands done quickly so the child's needs can be addressed more thouroughly.

My ds napped every afternoon until after he turned 5. If it was 1 o'clock and I wasn't heading towards home, it was going to be a problem without a stroller.
post #46 of 197
I don't think they had some of the snazzy strollers back then that they have now though. The variety as you probably know is pretty amazing, and some are pretty fancy and pricey. I don't use one regularly (well except for long walks around the neighborhood with ds2) but will always take our tandem to the zoo or place like that for when they get tired. Now I agree that maybe some people might hang to them way too long (like 6 or 8) but there's some pretty light, easy strollers for tired little ones.

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Originally Posted by yamilee21 View Post
I can see where a question like this comes from, because it does seem that in this generation many parents use strollers for their children at older ages than in previous generations, just as many children are in diapers longer. It is odd in this society how children are simultaneously pushed to grow up too fast (clothing, academic curriculums pushed to earlier grades, etc.) while being "babied" longer in other areas. When I was a child, it was rare to see a child older than 2 1/2 in a stroller. Among our friends and family members that used strollers, once the child walked fairly well, sometime during the second year, the stroller was no longer used. So it does always look odd to me when I see a larger child in a stroller, especially if there does not appear to be a younger sibling around, and I do tend to wonder if the child is ill or has an injury.

My godson is almost four, and he sometimes insist on riding in a stroller even when it is inconvenient for everyone else. Last week my 20 month old and I were with him and his mother, and he wanted to be pushed in the stroller, even though his mother was carrying heavy bags and could not do it. My toddler ended up pushing him - it was quite a sight.
post #47 of 197
My 3 year old is 37 pounds and I'm pregnant, too heavy for me to carry. He would rather walk 99% of the time, but that once in a while when we are far from home (we walk everywhere) and he just is too tired to walk, I don't have any other options. The stroller spent a good 8 months in the garage un used, now it comes with us to carry stuff when we go for long walks or to carry him home if need be.

Some kids just like it. We went to Disney with friends who have a 4.5 year old and they brought their stroller. I thought they were nuts, we didn't bring ours for DS who wasn't 3 yet. But then again, their daughter asked to ride in the afternoon, our son wouldn't even let anyone carry him.
post #48 of 197
long thread.. and I admit I didn't read the threads.
Yesterday we had a long day, several parks, egg hunts... at the end of the day my 4.5yo was insisting on being in the umbrella stroller I had. (I forgot my sling, and saw this thing in the back of my trunk and though... omg I still have this thing?? )
AND with 3 kids, and crowds of people, I happily had kid in the stoller half the time and watching the other two...
I even wished I had one of those kids leashes :
post #49 of 197
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Originally Posted by yellowpansy View Post
My 4 year old walks half the time we run errands and spends the other half in a stroller or cart when she either gets tired or rambunctious and needs to be contained with a snack. At 40 lbs, I could never carry her.
Yes to this. I have my ds in a sling and dd in a stroller when we go to the mall, which is rare. She rides in the shopping cart at the store and he's in the sling. Sometimes we just need to get things done!

Also, my dd just turned 3, but most people assume she's 5 or 6 due to her size/verbal ability. I hate to think, yet have to assume, that many people judge her and me unfairly because they presume to know our situation and her needs.
post #50 of 197
Especially at Disney or someplace huge like that, strollers are great. My DDs rode in the (rented for way too much $) Disney strollers when we went there last year, and they're in elementary school. When we're paying $50 a piece to be in the park, I'd rather they not spend all their energy just walking from place to place. With strollers, we could stay 6 hours without anyone getting cranky - without, we'd have had to leave after probably 3 1/2 hours.
post #51 of 197
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Originally Posted by 4evermom View Post
My ds napped every afternoon until after he turned 5. If it was 1 o'clock and I wasn't heading towards home, it was going to be a problem without a stroller.
Good point, good point!
post #52 of 197
It's not common here at all. The only 4 and 5 year olds I've ever seen in a stroller here are 2 of my past daycare kids. They are siblings and both VERY overweight. The 4yo had legs so chubby she couldn't bend her knees enough to climb into her carseat on her own. I had to make steps for her because I couldn't lift her in and out without hurting myself. By the time she left my daycare she was doing much better, because I walk everywhere with the daycare kids We walk to the park, the library etc. I only put under 2yo's in the stroller and I carry the under 1yos in a Moby. So I'm usually wearing an infant and have 2 toddlers in the double stroller. The rest have to walk with me. They do GREAT!!! It's about 1.5 miles round trip....they take a FANTASTIC nap afterwards. I pack a snack or a picnic to take with us and the even walk back after playing hard at the park for a couple of hours. We are much slower on the way back to the house though, LOLOL.
post #53 of 197
Some people see things such as cribs, walkers, bouncy seats, baby swings, car seats, play pens, strollers and high chairs as "cages" or "prison bars" for babies and children. I think the op may think as such???

I don't agree. Each different thing could serve a healthy purpose for some child somewhere at some point in time. So I don't judge. For our family, I have used a crib with one dd, a baby swing with a different dd, a car seat (as occasional "containment") for the third dd and strollers and high chairs for all 3.
post #54 of 197
My 4.5 yo rides only at things like amusement parks, zoos - places that are a lot of walking and a full day of it. Not at the mall unless he is not feeling well or something.
post #55 of 197
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Originally Posted by momma4fun View Post
Some people see things such as cribs, walkers, bouncy seats, baby swings, car seats, play pens, strollers and high chairs as "cages" or "prison bars" for babies and children. I think the op may think as such???

I don't agree. Each different thing could serve a healthy purpose for some child somewhere at some point in time. So I don't judge. For our family, I have used a crib with one dd, a baby swing with a different dd, a car seat (as occasional "containment") for the third dd and strollers and high chairs for all 3.
Maybe, but really it's the overuse or poor use of such devices that makes them sub standard.

Most of us remember the leash wars here at MDC, don't we?
post #56 of 197
My 5.5 year old son asks for the stroller if we're going to the mall or somewhere else where he'll be expected to walk for a long time (we rented strollers on a recent trip to Sea World and Legoland). Often times it is him in the stroller and my 3.5 year old walking. My son has low muscle tone along with some other problems so he likes a little break during a long day. If I still had my double stroller I'd use that as my 3.5 year old has autism and is known to often dart and wander off. Two eyes...two kids...busy mom.

So what I'm saying is that when you see an older child in a stroller please don't automatically assume that the parent is into "caging" their kids or that their kids are lazy and bound to be obese (I'm not saying the OP specifically is, just using 'you' in a general term). There are often times underlying problems that account for the stroller use in older children. FWIW my kids were both slung as long as they wanted to be slung - my son stopped liking the sling about 4 and my daughter about 2.5.
post #57 of 197
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Originally Posted by GC_Mom View Post
My 5.5 year old son asks for the stroller if we're going to the mall or somewhere else where he'll be expected to walk for a long time (we rented strollers on a recent trip to Sea World and Legoland). Often times it is him in the stroller and my 3.5 year old walking. My son has low muscle tone along with some other problems so he likes a little break during a long day. If I still had my double stroller I'd use that as my 3.5 year old has autism and is known to often dart and wander off. Two eyes...two kids...busy mom.

So what I'm saying is that when you see an older child in a stroller please don't automatically assume that the parent is into "caging" their kids or that their kids are lazy and bound to be obese (I'm not saying the OP specifically is, just using 'you' in a general term). There are often times underlying problems that account for the stroller use in older children. FWIW my kids were both slung as long as they wanted to be slung - my son stopped liking the sling about 4 and my daughter about 2.5.
: I was just looking at (turned 3 in January) ds last night as we pushed him in the jogging stroller for a walk around the neighborhood thinking, "what will we do when he outgrows the stroller?"

My ds has autism, he does not consistently hold hands (he used to not hold hands at all...we've been working on this) and is known to dart into parking lots, streets, etc.. He LIKES to ride in the jogging stroller. Last night we went for a walk simply because he literally climbed into the stroller (it was parked in the garage, we were hanging out in the yard) and said "ride?"

When I thought of getting a bigger stroller to accommodate him, I immediately thought gee I'll bet there'll be a lot of people who will see him the stroller and leap to judgement.

So it goes.
post #58 of 197
My almost three year old never walks in public places. She has really bad sensory issues and will take of running or just break down in large crowds. In a stroller, she's perfectly happy.
post #59 of 197
My almost 4 yo rides in a stroller a lot. We take the dog for a mediumly long walk every day and while he could walk that far at a meandering stop and look at everything pace I would prefer the dog walk to take less than 4 hours the dog gets really bored at ds's pace. That being said I try to discourage his habitual use of the stroller for short trip s as he wants to use it out of habit and not actual practicality. But any time we are walking for a purpose, ie getting somewhere walking the dog he uses it. I had a woman in ds' kinder musik class go on and on at me about this, how she sees people with older kids in strollers and she couldn't understand it and her kids would refuse to use their strollers when they were 18 months. Finally when I asked about what she does when they get tired she was like oh they never get tired they could run from one end of the mall and back that I realized they never used strollers for transportation. : She was being really rude (and classist) and finally i just said look lady people have big kid sin strollers becasue they don't have cars, they walk to the mall not just in the mall.
post #60 of 197
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Originally Posted by maliceinwonderland View Post
Serious question for you, not being snarky. Would you think twice if the kid was riding in a wagon instead of a stroller?

I ask because a friend of mine says things constantly about a friend of hers who's four year old rides in the stroller. And yet, we both owned wagons for our kids and she didn't seem to think it was the same thing.
I've noticed this in the ap community where I live. Some of the parents who especially prided themselves on "always" babywearing, have wagons and joggers--as if that's not the same thing. I actually thought I was the only one who noticed this.
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