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post #61 of 197
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Originally Posted by mama2mygirl View Post
I've noticed this in the ap community where I live. Some of the parents who especially prided themselves on "always" babywearing, have wagons and joggers--as if that's not the same thing. I actually thought I was the only one who noticed this.

LOL I notice it too!
post #62 of 197
Very true.
post #63 of 197
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Originally Posted by mama2mygirl View Post
I've noticed this in the ap community where I live. Some of the parents who especially prided themselves on "always" babywearing, have wagons and joggers--as if that's not the same thing. I actually thought I was the only one who noticed this.
But.... but... wagons don't have a cup holder for my chai tea! What's a mom to do?
post #64 of 197
The idea of lugging one of those stupid wagons around makes my back ache just thinking about it. But yes, I know exactly what you mean, how a stroller is a "baby containment device" to some, but a wagon is cool waldorf-style fun or whatever. Gag me.

As for why you didn't see bigger kids in strollers "back in the day," I remember when my brother outgrew his stroller. It was a sad day. Back then, the weight limit on the most heavy duty models was about 30 lbs. He was about 2.5. The next couple years were filled with whining from him, about his tired legs, and my parents, about their aching backs. The stroller I have has a weight limit of 45 lbs and I intend to use it as long as necessary.
post #65 of 197
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Originally Posted by artgoddess View Post
But.... but... wagons don't have a cup holder for my chai tea! What's a mom to do?
Yeah, my jogging stroller doesn't have a cup holder for my chai tea either. :

I don't know, I only have a two year old who was never good at riding in the stroller (we only have a jogger) and I wish she was. See, my 2 y.o. is the stop and smell the roses type of baby and I am "training" for a half marathon. Since she won't go in the stroller, I have to do all of my training (read: walking) when she is asleep which means I get less work done (I WAH). I would much rather do it while she is awake but walking 3 steps and then stopping to look at something just does not constitute walking. I don't see what is wrong with occasionally putting an older child in a stroller. I also don't think you stalk the moms long enough to have a full picture of what is going on. Be gentle with them, being a mom is hard.
post #66 of 197
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
I'd also like to ask you to rethink your perspective on this. I didn't mention it in my previous post, but I also have a 6 year old who you might sometimes find me pushing. He has problems with sensory integration, but from looking at him, you likely would know he had any issues (unless you saw him in the middle of a sensory overload meltdown, in which case you might think he was a brat and I was a bad mom ). Anyhow, sometimes riding is a calming force for him, just like wearing him was when he was younger. All special needs aren't visible ones.
: Eclipse

My ds requested to ride in the KOHL's cart this past weekend. He was the biggest kid riding in the cart but it was either ride or deal with his sensory overload meltdown.
post #67 of 197
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Originally Posted by lalaland42 View Post
Yeah, my jogging stroller doesn't have a cup holder for my chai tea either. :
That's because you don't have a BOB console.
http://www.strollerideas.com/20bobsthaco.html
Yes, it fits on non-bob strollers.
post #68 of 197
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Originally Posted by artgoddess View Post
But.... but... wagons don't have a cup holder for my chai tea! What's a mom to do?
Honestly, I long for dd's old stroller with the cup holders But dd wouldn't be caught dead in a stroller after she was around three, but can't make the walk downtown and back, so we went to a wagon. I consider it the same thing as a stroller..I don't know how people feel like a wagon is a fine but a stroller isn't.
post #69 of 197
I love all the cupholders on our stroller. One for my water bottle, one for his, and one for her sippy cup. And a tray for us to put toys in for her, or samples of meals out. And a giant basket that can carry 40 lbs worth of diapers, groceries, and extra coats and blankets. Really we're nomadic during the day and our stroller is like a snazzy, upholstered version of a homeless person's shopping cart or an old lady's wire basket/walker.

And, it will probably save our marriage. Seriously. Because when she's in the stroller she sings to herself happily and checks out the scenery, and we can talk about Grown Up Things in Grown Up Voices and relax a little. It's better than sticking her in front of the TV to watch another Yehudi Menuhin documentary or something.

And she takes the best naps in there!

And I have an adorable video of daddy racing her up and down the sidewalk as she screams and giggles with delight.

Go strollers!
post #70 of 197
Boy I guess even the simplest parenting choices are open to judgement. When DD was born almost 3 years ago, we bought a double stroller. Best investment ever. DS was 22 months at the time. In all honestly I think we've used it maybe a dozen times in those 3 years - but those times we used it, it was worth every penny. Doctor's trips when both kids are sick? No way I'm pushing a stroller with one and carrying the other or even worse, carrying BOTH of them (been there, done that, my back will never be the same!). If we go to the mall, we normally don't take it, but someplace like the zoo or Ren Fest? Absolutely! DS will be 5 in a few months, and we're sadly passing it on at the end of the summer - he's getting too big for it. But he's a little guy, and he gets tired a lot easier than I do as an adult (I suspect that's why it's state law that any child 5 or under in school must be offered a nap, yet my employer isn't required to provide me with a naptime! LOL!). He's full of boundless energy, but when he's done, that's it. Why not have someplace comfy for him to relax? He's not lazy, he's not spoiled, he's just a child with a child's needs.

K.
post #71 of 197
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Originally Posted by artgoddess View Post
But.... but... wagons don't have a cup holder for my chai tea! What's a mom to do?
our wagon has a cupholder! actually 2! I love it! My 3yo still uses the stroller on occasion as well. I wear my 25+lb DD usually. if we go to the grocery store though they both go in the cart (double cart or not). DS will NOT stay with me while walking and will run off. I am trying to figure out how to teach him to stay with me, but so far it's been a disaster most times. he's super stubborn about it too. I can't wait until he can walk on his own and stay nearby! :
post #72 of 197
Count me as a person wondering what the heck I am going to do when 3.5 yo dd outgrows her stroller.

While I find these types of threads completely pointless, I am compelled to share yet another valid reason that a perfectly healthy 3+ yo might be in a stroller.

I walk everywhere. Errands and exercise. Every single day. Most places I go are one or more miles away (one way). On busy streets with poor visibility and NO sidewalks. This means that at least once a day I am walking for at least 45 minutes and often much more. I am walking on sheer ice, huge mud puddles, slush, blazing hot pavement, cracked and heaving pavement, gravel, etc..... I am walking in the snow, sleet, rain, hail (only once), blazing sun. I am walking in anything from -10 degrees up to 100 degrees. I also walk up and down VERY steep hills. I am an adult that can gauge my comfort level with a better scope of the "whole plan". I also have access to gear (such as cleets and gortex) that is simply not made for 3 yos. I have more balance. I could go on.

Dd has a great jogging stroller with a complete cover. She can be totally shaded in hot weather and completely enclosed, wrapped, and bundled in cold. To expect a 3, 4, 5, or even 6 yo to do what I do daily is too much. Not to mention dd loves riding in the stroller, which in my book is a good enough reason.

However, I do make a point to give dd access to many exercise opportunities, usually more than once a day.

My stroller never goes in the car. But I do have a small umbrella stroller that is brought out maybe twice a year for museums, amusement parks, airports, zoos, etc..... She walks under her own power at those places but likes to have the stroller as back-up if she wants it after a long day.
post #73 of 197
I think a child in a mall might prefer to be in a stoller. Mall shopping is deathly boring. A child in a stroller can nap, have a little snack, look at books, play with little toys. What's so great about walking around the mall while your parents shop for stuff? And it's not like the view ever changes. Wheverever you go, no matter what city or state you're in, there's Gymboree or Abercrombie with the same exact window displays. I would think a stroller is an escape from that gentrification.
post #74 of 197
My son is 4. He looks 'normal' and healthy. He's on the autism spectrum. He has sensory issues and low muscle tone (even though he's had physical and occupational therapy for a year and a half).
He gets tired when we go to the mall. Our mall is BIG and the stores we go to are usually at separate ends. He usually ends up wanting me to pick him up. Not only that, he gets sensory overload. When that happens, look out. He's like the Tazmanian Devil. He completely flips out. It helps him to calm down and avoid melt downs if he can sit in a stroller.
I haven't actually brought the stroller with me in quite a long time but I'm certainly not opposed to it.

Again, many kids may look 'normal' and/or healthy. You don't know what's going on just by looking at him/her.
How about we all just go about our own business and try not to pass judgement on little things such as this.
post #75 of 197
We see children we know (and who we know have no special issues) being pushed absolutely everywhere around our neighborhood in strollers at 4+. I've heard their mothers complain that the kids get so tired walking, but it's chicken and egg, isn't it? They need to build up the strength to walk by walking regularly (thought only applies to children without special issues).

My 4.5 yr old left the stroller at 3.5 yrs and, yes, I do have to adjust my activities to accomodate her energy level and, yes, I do have access to a car if I need to make a longer trip, but she is 45 lbs and, no, I can't carry her, she knows she has to walk.

But, it seems to me that the more she walks, the more she is able to walk. And I (usually) quite like the fact that walking with her forces me to slow my pace down and see things at her speed. I can't wait until my 2.5 yr old is ready so I can get rid of the stroller and we can all walk together. Just my two cents and no judgement passed on those who love their strollers.
post #76 of 197
Do you remember growing pains? I do. Those alone would make me not want to walk sometimes as a child. The total leg ache that just wouldn't go away. It has nothing to do with strength sometimes. Maybe they just don't want to walk everywhere their parents are dragging them. I wouldn't. Plus, children build their strength by playing and running. Not going for boring walks through stores, malls, etc..
post #77 of 197
Twins are different, and exempt from the judgement on strollers, right? Well, even if they aren't, I claim that it's ok for them to ride in a stroller. And singletons, and sibs of any age, too.

I gave away my double stroller when my twin girls were about 2.5 I guess. I wish I had it sometimes - but it would weigh 90 lbs with them in it and wouldn't steer.

Anyway, my kids are healthy and active. And they get bored and tired, so they ride in the cart at Costco and whatever other store I'm in. I never once thought, "I wonder if people think my Big Kids are lazy?" Bah!
post #78 of 197
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Originally Posted by marsmom View Post
We see children we know (and who we know have no special issues) being pushed absolutely everywhere around our neighborhood in strollers at 4+. I've heard their mothers complain that the kids get so tired walking, but it's chicken and egg, isn't it? They need to build up the strength to walk by walking regularly (thought only applies to children without special issues).

My 4.5 yr old left the stroller at 3.5 yrs and, yes, I do have to adjust my activities to accomodate her energy level and, yes, I do have access to a car if I need to make a longer trip, but she is 45 lbs and, no, I can't carry her, she knows she has to walk.

But, it seems to me that the more she walks, the more she is able to walk. And I (usually) quite like the fact that walking with her forces me to slow my pace down and see things at her speed. I can't wait until my 2.5 yr old is ready so I can get rid of the stroller and we can all walk together. Just my two cents and no judgement passed on those who love their strollers.
Well honestly it's easy to get rid of the stroller if you don't have to walk somewhere within a certain time frame.

We walk to school for my older son every day. I am not going to make my 3.5 yo walk all the way to school if he doesn't feel he can but we must get there. And I'd rather put him in a stroller than get in the car anyday...

...but no judgment passed on those who love their cars...
post #79 of 197
When they have to do it all the time, they do get used to it, based on my experience and a few of my friends anyway.

We also have walked to school every day for 2 years now. In the morning, when she knows we need to get there, she (usually) can focus on moving. On the way home, we can stop and look at every plant, animal, car, etc. that she wants.

We also walk to 90%+ of our errands (excluding large grocery trip or things in another town) and I don't see it as boring most of the time for them. They learn about interacting with other people, they learn about the food we buy, we pass people we know in the street and talk, they learn about sending mail at the post office - I don't know, we manage to talk about most things we're doing while walking. I wouldn't plan an afternoon of straight shopping - even an hour and I would mix in the library or playground or something. And sure she fusses sometimes, but we sit down or have a snack or some distraction and then she's ok to go again. I do wish I could put them both in the cart at Costco, but 80lbs plus groceries and my back don't get along.
post #80 of 197
But my sons were rarely in a stroller (yay slings) and now they like them. Sometimes I take the stroller to the zoo for when they get tired, and then they want to get pushed along while chomping on ranch bunnies before they even get tired. It frustrates me, but they're not lazy kids. They're active, healthy-eating kids who aren't overweight and get loads of activity and exercise. So I don't think it's always a sign of lazy kids and parents always using them. Granted that's not every day for us, but still. Sometimes kids just like them, and they're convenient. Doesn't mean they're always in them or not exercising.
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