Marijuana while breastfeeding? - Page 6

[frontierpsych]

I'm another in the "No, for legality reasons" camp.

I haven't seen compelling medical evidence against it. I am for legalization, but until it is legalized (if ever) I don't think it's worth the risk of arrest/CPS.

[Lily Eve]

Originally Posted by Gumby

wow.

bolding mine.

a lot of women take "drugs" when pregnant or breastfeeding. epidurals? pitocin? cytotec? antibiotics for infections or prevention thereof?

i am most certainly NOT addicted to the prescribed antibiotic i took while pregnant for a very real infection i had. and i am absolutely not addicted to the cytotec i took to stop my postpartum hemorrhage.

IMO and that of many others, MJ is a lot less harmful than some of the chemicals big pharma markets.

Like Chronic Chrissy said (nice to see you btw!) do your research.

I'm no great fan of the pharmaceutical industry either and would abstain from any medication. I didn't use an epidural when I was pregnant or anything else (even caffeine) and perhaps worded my previous post incorrectly when I mentioned addiction. Most people smoking pot are not going to become addicted to it, although some do become addicted in the same manner as some people become addicted to alcohol while most do not.

However, comparing marijuana to cytotec is a little misleading as you actually did need the cytotec to stop your bleeding. Nobody absolutely needs marijuana. It's a recreational drug that people take because it enhances their state of mind and they like the feeling of it. People can live without it. Therefore, regardless of any studies done on it, why take unnecessary risks with a baby? Cigarettes were once thought to be perfectly safe to smoke while pregnant and nursing too, but it just doesn't make logical sense that inhaling marijuana or cigarettes are beneficial to babies in any way.

BTW, I was once in a relationship with the singer/bassist of an Australian band and probably the biggest drug advocate in all of Australia as well, lol, so I do know plenty about marijuana and drugs in general but still don't agree that they're good for babies. Adults can do whatever they like and should have the freedom to do so, but I'll just never agree that it's a good thing to smoke marijuana while pregnant or breastfeeding.

[the_lissa]

Some people take it medicinally. Try telling a woman with hg that she doesn't need it if it keeps her out of the hospital/off a picc line/from losing her job/from vomiting two dozen times a day/from complications of malnutrition.

[astromama]

To the poster who said 'belladonna is natural' and she wouldn't take it while nursing: Belladonna is an ingredient in highland's teething tablets, a homeopathic medicine.... is it harmful? Do we give it to our kids to ease their discomfort? I agree with using marijuana for it's medicinal effects and I wish I had come to that conclusion sooner! I debated with myself for a good many months and now I wish i would have smoked instead of taking the prescribed drugs post c-section. And no, I do not agree with big pharma and the 'hospital' drugs they give you. I was a Bradley mama to be and went through my whole labor and 3+ hours of pushing before transferring from home to hospital... drugs were the last thing I wanted in my baby! However, some drugs are purer and better than others. I would rather take a hit than say, Benedryl or tylenol.

[tireesix]

I use it occasionaly for medicinal purposes because I hate the other drugs I take. If you are smoking lots of it then that is not medicinal, the odd joint now and again to make life a bit easier (I am not allowed anti depressants because I react to them) or to help with pain (I suffer from chronic pain and usually use opioids) really isn't that bad.

[Lily Eve]

Originally Posted by astromama

However, some drugs are purer and better than others. I would rather take a hit than say, Benedryl or tylenol.

Really? I'd venture to say that taking some advil or tylenol is probably a lot safer than smoking pot since pot is 20 times more carcinogenic than tobacco and tobacco is pretty darn nasty stuff.

[frog]

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

...pot is 20 times more carcinogenic than tobacco...

Do you have a source for this statement? Thanks.

[slymamato3]

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

Really? I'd venture to say that taking some advil or tylenol is probably a lot safer than smoking pot since pot is 20 times more carcinogenic than tobacco and tobacco is pretty darn nasty stuff.

I have to agree with astromama...
No argument, tobacco is nasty. But I think more often than not BFing mamas that are using medicinal mj for pain or appetite issues are not over medicating themselves with this PLANT. Aren't there tons of BFing women that don't think twice about smoking cigs, drinking, never mind the tylenol, advil and on and on. You can see studies going both ways on this as with any of the other choices we end up making in this life.
As pps said "DO YOUR RESEARCH", thats how you can find your own comfort level.

[tireesix]

Who says you have to SMOKE it anyway???

[slymamato3]

Originally Posted by tireesix

Who says you have to SMOKE it anyway???

good point...I do think someone mentioned cooking and vaping earlier in the thread.

[sg784]

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

Really? I'd venture to say that taking some advil or tylenol is probably a lot safer than smoking pot since pot is 20 times more carcinogenic than tobacco and tobacco is pretty darn nasty stuff.

Where do you get your "informed opinion"? From a "partnership for a drug free america" commercial? Thats like taking breastfeeding advice from nestle. I wish more people especially HERE at MDC would put more into researching things like MJ. You do the research and make a truly informed decision regarding Circ, VAX, birth, etc, why not the same effort in educating yourself about medicine, be it herbal, pharm, or any alternative??

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

I'm no great fan of the pharmaceutical industry either and would abstain from any medication. I didn't use an epidural when I was pregnant or anything else (even caffeine)

Good for you! Me either.

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

However, comparing marijuana to cytotec is a little misleading as you actually did need the cytotec to stop your bleeding.

Actually, no I didn't. I refused at first.

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

Nobody absolutely needs marijuana. It's a recreational drug that people take because it enhances their state of mind and they like the feeling of it. People can live without it.

That's not necessarily true. Some people do need MJ just like some people need their anti-pschotic medications.

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

Therefore, regardless of any studies done on it, why take unnecessary risks with a baby? Cigarettes were once thought to be perfectly safe to smoke while pregnant and nursing too, but it just doesn't make logical sense that inhaling marijuana or cigarettes are beneficial to babies in any way.

This exact same argument could be made WRT to pills prescribed by the doctor. Some meds were once thought to be safe while pg/bf and have only been around a few decades.

Originally Posted by Lily Eve

BTW, I was once in a relationship with the singer/bassist of an Australian band and probably the biggest drug advocate in all of Australia as well, lol, so I do know plenty about marijuana and drugs in general but still don't agree that they're good for babies. Adults can do whatever they like and should have the freedom to do so, but I'll just never agree that it's a good thing to smoke marijuana while pregnant or breastfeeding.

Thanks for this little personal tidbit. However, I don't think it's accurate to compare the advocacy of a rocker to that of a bf'ing mom batting severe PPD who wants nothing more than to kill herself. And that's fine if you don't want to smoke, just get your facts straight.

[newmama8824]

Originally Posted by goddessgold1

I posted before reading the other posts, so I also wanted to add after reading, I dont think it is my, or anyones place to judge, really. Honestly, even tho I havent really ever done any studies on it, I have been surrounded by weed my whole life, all my family always has and still does do it, and from what I have seen, smoking cigs are alot words than smoking a joint every now and then... and I can handle a person who is high, I cannot handle a drunk...lol:

Right on.

[Danielle13]

Originally Posted by WNB

here we go again... lol

Tune in 20 pages later for acrimony and drama, right here on commercial-free MDC. It's a soap opera for people who only ever use Dr. Brommers.

laughup :

omg! this is so funny!!

I personally don't smoke weed

[lyttlewon]

I voted no but I don't feel it is physically harmful to the child in small amounts especially in comparison to some of the prescription Anti-D meds. I wouldn't rule out the possibility if I had a medical indication.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Originally Posted by FancyD

Not very high, but still high.

Listen, I'm Canadian. I have zero problem with adults smoking weed. I don't much care if a pregnant or BFing mother smokes, but let's not get crazy and say MJ isn't intoxicating.

It has a ton of medical uses, and it's pretty much legal here. Shit, the government grows it! I tend towards a moderate view on this, but facts are facts.

Actually the government doesn't grow it, the contract growers to sell it for medicinal purposes and impose regulations. So long as you don't have a criminal record any one can apply to grow to grow it legally for distribution.


Oh USING MARIJUANA DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN SMOKING IT! Smoking it wastes more than it provides.

[Ziggysmama]

Originally Posted by mamameg

I see. Gotcha. I'm admittedly jumping in without really reading carefully. This thread is so old, and frankly, it's a conversation that happens so often at mdc, I can't bring myself to get very excited about it anymore so I probably shouldn't have posted at all.

I'm cracking up at this


MJ is fine to smoke while breastfeeding. Certainly no more harmful than the handful of (prescription) pharma drugs I have taken while in my bfing dyad.

I didn't vote, I haven't smoked weed in years but I am still an advocate. My midwife reccomended it to me while I was pregnant for my headaches. My mom smoke while in labour with me, to ease the contractions. It not. a. big. deal.
CPS here in NZ would NEVER take a child away for their parent possessing pot. Never.
Another point, belladonna is in as PP pointed out, is in Hylands teething powder as well as a whole range of other homeopathics, including ones I took while in labour with my babe.
Also, I though Benadryl was contraindicated for pg and bfing.
And if you take enough Tylenol you can lose your liver and have to have a transplant. I have never heard of that happening with MJ.

[meenajo]

the drug debate is very interesting, but I'm just wondering, from those who have done the research:

If a responsible, Bfeeding mom did choose to indulge very occasionally, should she pump-n-dump? Is that effective or a total waste? Would it be the pumping right afterwards or later on? Would it make a difference if we're talking about an infant or a toddler?

[SleepyMamaBear]

no need to pump n dump. your body metabolizes it so no thc is in your milk. hth
and i SWEAR i'm not stalking you!!!!
coincidence.

[meenajo]

Stalker!
It's just hypothetical, of course, I wouldn't want you to think I'd make an irresponsible Mommy not a drug addict I swear

We should get together sometime soon