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post #21 of 48
My brother, sister and I were all born by c-section, and I really don't think that "more violent" description fits any of us.
post #22 of 48
In the 1980s, Dr. Bertil Jacobson in Sweden did a study of traumatic births involving suicides and studied these people for birth trauma. She found many cord problems (strangulation) and forceps (mechanical means) among many of the suicide cases. The cases were of people born between 1945-80 born in seven hospitals in Stockholm who committed suicide by violent means from 1978-95.

This does not answer your question about caesarean sections, but somewhere down the road, someone will do this study. Much may rely on the reasons for the caesarean birth and whether or not it was a scheduled surgery.
post #23 of 48
Gee, last time I checked people born by cesarian were still people who had been born. Have all these people who haven't been born vaginally- are they actually reptiles who were hatched?

Ah, just picture it:

Happy Hatchday to you
happy hatchday to you
happy hatchday dear "different from a regular person"
happy hatchday to you.

post #24 of 48
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It sounds like another birthing is SO much more superior to C section route, only instead of using facts lets make them feel bad
Last time I checked... having a c/s is giving birth....
post #25 of 48
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Last time I checked... having a c/s is giving birth....
Of course it is!
post #26 of 48
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Originally Posted by intorainbowz View Post
Last time I checked... having a c/s is giving birth....
I guess that depends on your definitions. I've never given birth and I have three biological children.
post #27 of 48
I am sorry that you feel that way, Storm Bride. s to you. I am sure you are a wonderful mother!

My never to be humble opinion is that women give birth and grapefruits are sectioned.
post #28 of 48
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It sounds like another birthing is SO much more superior to C section route, only instead of using facts lets make them feel bad
Yep, that's exactly my thought as well.
post #29 of 48
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I guess that depends on your definitions. I've never given birth and I have three biological children.
I'm with you. I birthed my son. My daughter was certainly born, but I was denied the priviledge of birthing her. I hope some day I may feel differently, but I doubt it. The experiences are just too distant from each other.
post #30 of 48
I birthed my son via c-section, and no one had better try to tell me differently. Call your own c-sections what you want, but MINE was a birth.
post #31 of 48
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I birthed my son via c-section, and no one had better try to tell me differently. Call your own c-sections what you want, but MINE was a birth.
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I gave birth. Call yours what you wish... but I call mine a birth. I like to call it belly birth. I love my daughters birth and feel for those who feel theirs were a trauma.
post #32 of 48
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And, as far as birth trauma goes, it seems that people born from any less-than-gentle birth (forceps, vacuum, super long pushing phase, etc.) could experience this, not only cesarean births.
Not to mention immediate and long separation from mama . . . circumcision . . . being spanked before having the chance to breathe naturally. . . strong negative emotion from any person in the room . . .
post #33 of 48
I'd like to know how those who associate not liking things around the neck with c-section explain me: born vaginally, but cannot stand even soft turtleneck style shirts. Maybe there are other factors, like not caring to feel choked???

I haven't seen any of the suggested 'old wives tales" about, or that Swedish research, this that cannot most likely be better explained by other factors in the person's life.

Wordy way of saying the very concept is bull feces.

Both of our children were birthed tyvm.

Then there's the factor of what the alternative would be...what does birthing a baby with a broken neck, or tearing the he// out of mom, due to baby's malpositioned head accomplish??
post #34 of 48
i know i already posted, but i am still thinking about this thread. i have an older half brother, he was born vaginally our mom had no pain killers or anything it was drug free and he was breast fed (i was not and as i said earlier i was a c-section baby)
my older half brother is one of the most violent people i have ever met and i think he is a psychopath

i don't think how we where born has anything to do with how violent we are. not saying how we are born has no effect on us it might, i a certain how i was born left me with some permanent problems with my digestive system, but it certainly didn't effect how violent i or my older half brother turned out
post #35 of 48
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I like to call it belly birth.
Obstetricians like to refer to caesareans as giving birth from "above", which gives the surgical path to being born a celestial air.

Conversely, who would ever want to give birth from "below"?
post #36 of 48
I was born vaginal, my younger brother was born by emergency c-section. I am a mother, he is an Operation: Iraqi Freedom vet. He was much easier as a teenager, I was a much easier younger child. I don't think that our births are the difference in us. I think it is soley because I'm a girl, he's a boy, and even though we are less than 2 years apart, we were raised differently. We are alike in a lot of ways, and for the most part, our morals are the same.
post #37 of 48
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I like to call it belly birth.

I like that! I'll have to start using that term from now on.
post #38 of 48
darnit, that was probably a UA violation. :



ummm .... interesting thread. yeah.
post #39 of 48
DS is violent, but there are extenuating circumstances from after his brother died. DD1 is mean, but she's two. I think most 2 year olds are mean--she used to be sweet. DD2's too young to tell.

I was born vaginally and I have some anger management issues and hate to be touched. I was born with my cord wrapped around my neck and somehow it compressed and I nearly died. I had to be revived. I guess that probably counts as birth trauma, huh?
post #40 of 48
I'm really interested in the question of how a c-section birth could really influence a person. I wish the thread wasn't started with this theory on violence which it seems we nearly all reject As someone born by a c-section, I'd like to know about the possible effects which are relevant. Not that those kinds of things ever apply 100% anyway.
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