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post #21 of 98
I don't really see the point in declining. I gave consent in an instant and would do it again in a heartbeat. I'll do it as many times as they want. I'm sure there are loads of women who were in "monogamous" relationships that contracted HIV.

I don't see why anyone would be offended at being tested for an STD...not all STD's have obvious symptoms. I got an STD when I was in a monogamous relationship with my DH...he was diagnosed with an STD before we got together and was treated for it, but not well enough I guess, so I got it. I didn't know I had it until I was tested, I must have had it for quite some time.
post #22 of 98
i did with my first pregnancy, because honestly, you just never know, but i declined with my second pregnancy. i'm confident my husband doesn't have the time to cheat on me, and i have been faithful to him, so i didn't feel the need for a 2nd test. with a first pregnancy, i see no reason not to test, even with the risk of a false positive. imo, it's too big a risk to take
post #23 of 98
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Originally Posted by artgoddess View Post
That's illegal in any state. They must have your prior consent before performing any test.
You are right, even though I live in a Canadian province - Ontario actually. The HIV test is included with the other standard tests at your prenatal exam. Several other provinces also use this routine and opt-out approach. This is according to the website of the Canadian Aids Society (http://www.cwhn.ca/network-reseau/2-1/hiv.html) where they mention that there was some concern about consent being implied instead of actually obtained. So this is probably what happened.

No wonder that the number of women being tested went up from 30 to 90 % between 1998-2004 after they launched a prenatal HIV testing program in 1998 (source: http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/...d_article.html). Sadly, I was not able to find any newer numbers. In any case, it seems they are still supposed to ask for permission and you can opt out.
post #24 of 98
I did with my first because I hadn't been tested since before dh and I met. This time I declined.
post #25 of 98
I don't recall signing anything. I think they just do it here, unless you verbally decline. It doesn't bother me. This time, since I was pregnant and had the standard tests done 5 months ago, they didn't repeat the STD tests.

There are plenty of routine procedures in the OB's office that I'll decline. I pick my fights, and HIV testing is not one of them.
post #26 of 98
I let them do it. I am 99.9% sure I don't have it so I'm not worried. So I signed the consent and forgot about it.
post #27 of 98
Yes, I did.

I knew it was unlikely I was positive, but in the event I was, there are interventions that can drastically reduce the likelihood of the baby testing positive.
post #28 of 98
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Originally Posted by Emma's_Mommy View Post
i took the test because in NYS if the mother isn't tested during pregnancy they will test the baby in the hospital after birth and i didnt want my poor baby to get poked for nothing!
I think that this is also the case in Ohio. That is my memory of why I consented.
post #29 of 98
I declined it...you don't have to do it. It's definately a personal choice.
post #30 of 98
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Originally Posted by amberbella View Post
I don't really see the point in declining.
Pregnancy has been known to cause false positives. One positive (false or not) can screw up a lot of things.

-Angela
post #31 of 98
The lab called me the day after taking my blood saying that they had forgotten to have me sign an HIV waiver and to test for it. This was something that hadn't come up in my previous 2 pregnancies, and it actually took me by surprise. I declined and the lady said to be sure and tell my DR that I had declined this important test. My midwife was just fine.=) Now, if I thought there were a reason to do so...
post #32 of 98
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Originally Posted by thismama View Post
Yes, I did.

I knew it was unlikely I was positive, but in the event I was, there are interventions that can drastically reduce the likelihood of the baby testing positive.
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It just wasn't a big deal for me to get tested, it was done with all the other bloods. False positives are incredibly rare and if you got a positive you would be re tested. The benefits far out weigh the risks imo (for the baby). What if you were positive? If you know when preganant there is a lot you can do to make sure your baby is negative. Without knowing, your baby has a higher chance of ending up positive. They take blood anyway, mauyas well test it for all factors.
post #33 of 98
Can someone provide the research that being pg can result in a pos test??? Thanks.
post #34 of 98
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Originally Posted by roxyrox View Post
They take blood anyway, mauyas well test it for all factors.
I decline all blood testing unless there is a reason.

-Angela
post #35 of 98
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Originally Posted by Debstmomy View Post
Can someone provide the research that being pg can result in a pos test??? Thanks.
A quick google gives a link to wikipedia:

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False positives can be caused by antibodies to viruses other than HIV, antibodies produced by pregnancy, and other medical conditions such as recent acute illnesses, influenza vaccinations and allergies[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_test

-Angela
post #36 of 98
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Does anyone know, with the eye drops: I was tested for STD's with the original blood draw. Could I ask to be tested again right before birth and then be able to avoid the drops since I still would be gonorrhea- and chlamydia-free?
Off topic (so please ignore if not of interest)...you can contact the NY State Dept of Women's Health to get a waiver for the eye drops. But you need to submit the application BEFORE the babe is born. My local hospital is very supportive of natural birth/parenting and they help mamas contact the state, but they are also very clear that the hospital is not willing to risk state censure...they wont do the drops without the parent's okay, but they WILL report you for non-complaince if you don't have the waiver on file with the state.
post #37 of 98
I've turned it down the last two pregnancies.DH and I were each other's first and onlies so if I didn't have it 6 years ago with my first pregnancy and I'm not in a high risk category I don't feel a need to just give one more vial just cuz I've already got my arm out.There have been times when results have been mixed up and this would not be one of those times I care to let the results of an oops mess with my family.
post #38 of 98
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Originally Posted by Lady Lilya View Post
I also live in NYS.

I am planning a HB. But, my MW advised me that in the event of a transfer, if there was no HIV negative test results, they would prevent me from BFing the baby until they took blood from him and tested it, which could be more than a day.

I figured that if we transferred for some reason, there would already be more trauma for the baby than I would want, and I wouldn't want to add any additional trauma.

I was insulted as well. How can we be guilty until proven innocent? The same goes for the eye drops, which are almost impossible to refuse in NYS. It is based on an assumption of gonorrhea and chlamydia.

Anyway, the PKU test includes an HIV test in NYS these days. That can't be refused. But, at least with the PKU they can't keep your baby from you while they wait for the results.
Wow, that is crazy! DH and I were both virgins when we married, and are completely monogamous. So I just refuse it and the other STD tests now, but I do tell the CNMs why I am refusing so that they can feel safe in treating me. They all seem good with that. If one of them got a needle stick or something that had them worried for some reason, I would take it. As far as the BFing and AIDS, I just read a new and very comprehensive study that showed that babies born to HIV positive moms who EXCLUSIVELY breastfeed have much much much lower rates of infection in the babies. If the babies were given even one bottle of formula, their infection rate possibility (I know I'm saying this kinda screwy) went way way up. Anybody know what study I'm talking about? I'd like to bookmark it.

Here's a story about it, but what I read was the original study.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200704021550.html
post #39 of 98
It was no skin off my nose so I got the test done as it included Hep B & C and other stuff.

For me I'd rather know.

I have a relative who is in her 60s and has Hep C. She doesn't know where she got it from.

She does not fall into any of the categories which can get hep C ie never used drugs (except prescribed), never had needle stick injury, no other partner except her husband (who is hep C free), never had blood transfusion etc.

It is a mystery as to how she caught it. If you knew her you would believe her. Perhaps she got it from a health worker who didn't wear gloves

I guess from what has happened to my relative I just never want to assume and would rather be safe and sorry.
post #40 of 98
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Originally Posted by thewaggonerfamily View Post
Wow, that is crazy! DH and I were both virgins when we married, and are completely monogamous. So I just refuse it and the other STD tests now, but I do tell the CNMs why I am refusing so that they can feel safe in treating me. They all seem good with that. If one of them got a needle stick or something that had them worried for some reason, I would take it. As far as the BFing and AIDS, I just read a new and very comprehensive study that showed that babies born to HIV positive moms who EXCLUSIVELY breastfeed have much much much lower rates of infection in the babies. If the babies were given even one bottle of formula, their infection rate possibility (I know I'm saying this kinda screwy) went way way up. Anybody know what study I'm talking about? I'd like to bookmark it.

Here's a story about it, but what I read was the original study.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200704021550.html
My story is similar, about both of us only being with each other. My MW believed me, but she said that IF there is an emergency transfer, it would be an issue.

I heard about that study too, recently.

About false positives, I heard on the radio (NPR) that some mothers got false positives and then were given AIDS medications, and the babies ended up with birth defects. The doctors were trying to play down the birth defects, because they were disfiguring, but not life-threatening.
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