Yeah it is predictable that many of us don't think that pre-emptive slaughter of thousands is a valid energy or foreign policy. It's called having a conscience, relentless in the feeling that we can't get around the fact that killing in order to bury the fact of our own government's part in arming tyrannical despots around the world to control them will always backfire and, is wrong; that killing for A LIE is wrong; and that war profiteering is not only wrong but illegal.
I personally don't have the luxury of falling back on some party line dwelling and harping on Clinton's sex scandal, his policies, etc, when THOUSANDS are currently suffering not by Saddam's hand but our own hands...INCLUDING our own soldiers whose skills and loyalty were betrayed by being falsely led to war. And I feel I must do all I can to prevent it from happening again...as I think an awful lot of folks who post here may feel also.
We have to be able to talk about it, to mourn what were once decent vital, ever-evolving and growing values strongly supporting our diverse and creative culture, that are now being perverted into some kind of rigid quasi-puritan morality, false and tainted by greed and the need to feel righteous and superior over others who then by definition must be inferior, so what does it matter about their quality of life? Call many of us crazy, permissive and amoral...we don't equate lies relating to sex with premeditated murder of innocent people for profit and world dominance.
Yes, being human, being compassionate, trying to keep our sanity in times of danger, when our very thoughts threaten the goals of dominance and control, and we have been called traitors; having individual mind rather than hive mind, it IS predictable. Yes it is human nature in fact, that we desperately connect and share information, prove it true or false, research it well, to educate ourselves, one another and open our minds to the truth, even when it is hurtful and painful to our hearts and minds.
Why do we bother?...History will judge us all....and not least of all, our children will have to deal with those orphaned, maimed and whose mental innocence was permanently violated by US atrocities commited in our time. If we don't try now to address this dis-ease in our government (which may well reflect the dis-ease in ourselves and our culture that needs attention), well, our kids may never know again, the relative difference in how it was pre-2000, and how it is now. Or would those who want this administration to succeed in dismantling the Constitution, prefer a revolt by the poor, by those who are trodden by the results of bad policies, by those who are angry and will, perhaps if forced by desperation, fight back? It has happened before, it happens in the third world all the time. And it is much worse in its horror...because it is us choosing sides. I am not advocating it at all. I am not drooling in anticipation. But I tell you now...that it could happen and is so much more dangerous.
And if it happens...will that be because of the Clintons? or is the fault of Dems, Greens, Republicans, Christians, Muslims, Pagans, Jews?...or will we see it as all our HUMAN responsibility to one another: our duty and opportunity to make sure that everyone's basic access to needs met, is open and reachable, even if assistance is needed for some to access resources... everywhere on Earth so that we can avoid more violence? Or is that someone else's responsiblity?
I can only hope that those who feel compelled to join a flock tended and cultivated by the wolf in gentle shepherd's clothing at the helm of our ship of state, will come gently in the end, to the understanding that we, who had courage from the beginning, opened our minds to the truth not to be right but to address that truth that change always exposes, even though that truth caused so much pain to us. I have that much faith and trust and compassion, and wish others ease of awakening rather than the jolt and pain that I and probably many experienced in awakening to the truth of what is going on in America and therefore the world. I can only hope that when that time comes, that we can embrace one another without recrimination for insult/injury done, and with deeply sincere balm to soothe any pain caused, and welcome with love.
I KNOW how much the truth hurt me, but I was willing and trusted that it would be better in the long run to know sooner than later...and I suspect that it has hurt many others too, to choose to know now, hopefully before it is too late.
Yes, it may be predictable that this forum is full of thinking humans who find fellowship and shelter in one another's thoughts and sharing, in this horrible and dangerous storm attacking our way of life. It is predictable that we find comfort, and are encouraged and spurred forward to right action; that we express frustration and anger and don't receive certain types of information graciously and reject what feels untrustworthy. We have seen too much and CAN'T go back and be good, docile sheep because we have seen the wolf exposed through some tears that are beginning to unravel the gentle shepherd's clothing. He is leading the flock to the brink of oblivion. We will not follow the flock over the edge. It is a free will choice.
We don't all believe that obliteration of all life on this planet, is just okay because it is God's will or because we "read the end of the book". I personally have taken a religious vow to use my gifts and talents to prevent, from within my power, any further harm to Earth and all her life. I didn't want this war for that reason alone at the base of any other reasoning. I don't want any further attack on innocent people to be an acceptable way to send a message to another government...because what goes around, comes around and therefore, it can happen here too (and has) and I believe we have worshipped the death god here enough of late. -And also because the only message that comes through to the people attacked is that their attackers don't care at all about their suffering; just that the message of might making right gets through. That is the message. Not that democracy is good; not that Jesus loves them; not that they are liberated.
I imagine that I have spoiled yet another thread here. So I guess that before this one gets pulled pending review, because of any further discomfort I will conclude that this post will be removed if necessary. See I CANNOT and will not, as a human, as a woman, as a mother...stand by like a good sheep, while the body count for both Americans and Iraqis rises, without a care from our government, who LIED to go to war....and say NOTHING carefully so as to not offend...it's impossible for me. I refuse to say that everyone is right...because we SEE they are not. I cannot respect what has brought us to, and is attempting to keep us in this place. I am working and will work everywhere to remove the dis-ease brought on us; to remove the scales from the eyes of those who will not see, because the price of my silence; the price of delusional thinking is too high. None of our children or Iraqi children...or any children should pay. And if we keep on this tragic path, they will.
NO wrongs can EVER make a right and human might cannot make anything truly right...only right humane thought leading to right humane action makes right...from this point on, from you and me.
If the people lead, the government MUST follow...Joyce in the mts.
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It's horrible. The end doesn't justify the means. I wonder if all these dead people and their family and friends feel 'liberated'? 
It's pathetic really. All those who said 'trust your government' 'have a little faith in your govrenment,' 'the government knows things we don't,' are now saying well they lied but it's ok because....?!
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