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post #41 of 99
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Originally Posted by TinkerBelle View Post
I guess it would depend on your perception of "all night". I didn't co-sleep, but the babies were in our room by my side of the bed, in a bassinet. My older two BF, and I will tell you that after about 3-4 mos old, they did, indeed sleep through the night. Usually went to bed around 8 after eating, I "topped them off" around 11 or midnight and they slept until 5 or 6 am usually. Of course, there were deviations from their self-made "schedule", but that was the norm pretty much by 3 mos.

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My son goes to bed at 7, up at 12 and 4, and I in no way consider that through the night. I'm praying for the day when at least one of those feedings gets dropped.
post #42 of 99
Oh, seriously? My dd does not sleep through the night. Even going by the standard 5 hour definition. I so wish I could sleep through the nursings. I used to but since about 15 months she insists on switching sides about 3-4 times and I can't sleep through that. I'm sure that some cosleepers have been lucky in that their dc's sleep through the night but I take great comfort in knowing that most don't. I don't know anyone else IRL who cosleeps and most of them have dc's who "sleep through the night". But, in almost all cases they also engaged in some form of CIO technique.
post #43 of 99
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Originally Posted by TattooedMama View Post
I feel she tries (albeit subtly) to imply that my 4 month old waking every 2-3 hours is abnormal.
Um, ime that is NOT normal. Try every hour or so, and you got a good pic of what was happening in MY house when ds was 4 mos old.

I don't think ds hit the 5 hour mark consistently until he was older than 2years old. hehehe
post #44 of 99
: My 2 year old is barely sleeping through the night and that's partially due to night weaning. And you know what? She STILL doesn't sleep through the night! She wakes every so often and resettles herself and goes back to sleep. She's tiny. She's in a bed with two other people. We all move. We ALL wake up at night.

ETA: Keep in mind that "through the night" also equals 5 hours of sleep. So your babe could easily sleep through the night at one stretch and just not the rest of it.
post #45 of 99
Please. We're doing the happy dance if DS sleeps more than 3 hrs. He's *never* slept more than 4. Oh wait, once, w/ DH, after I had surgery and he hadn't napped all day. But then he was up every 2 hrs after that one stretch. One 5 hr stretch in 23 months!!!!! :

At my last LLL meeting there were a bunch of new moms and the older leader (children in college now) was extolling cosleeping and said how you never heard of a cosleeper advocating against it. I wanted to stand up and yell, HA! MEET HER NOW!!! GET THEM IN THEIR OWN BED OR YOU'LL NEVER SLEEP!!! but I restrained myself.

I'm just about to post asking how to get them to sleep w/out nursing because I truly feel the beboes are the root of all our not-sleeping issues.
post #46 of 99
Us, too. I have nursed every day for the last 4 years & 7 months. Half of that time must have been in bed! My children co-sleep and nurse a lot at night, and it's usually every 2-3 hours. Lately with some teething (24 mo. old) it's about 20-40 minutes at night (and almost hourly in the daytime).

I have never heard of any child co-sleeping through the night, either. I certainly would hope it happens somewhere, but would question the validity of the claim. Is this friend generally sincere and honest or has she been known to fabricate and embellish?

hmmm, I just don't know...
post #47 of 99
Well, my two that slept in bed with me pretty much all the time woke frequently. My daughter, though, slept next to my bed (in a crib or bassinet) until she was 7 or 8 months old, and rarely woke. Then she moved to my bed, and continued to sleep through most nights. My oldest son is 6 and hasn't coslept in a couple of years, and still mostly doesn't sleep through. My youngest (19 months) nurses all nigght long. He doesn't wake much, though, unless the breast isn't easily accessable. (i wake up though, when he starts nursing.)
post #48 of 99
I didn't read all the replies- but you should make a poll!!!

My dd nursed and co-slept until she was four. 5-6 hours sleep was the max ever, and that was as a 4-year-old!!

Her kids were AWESOME sleepers, not at all average!
post #49 of 99
My son cosleesps and does NOT sleep through the night, never. He is 22 months old and nurses a few times during the night.
post #50 of 99
All of my kids are fairly good sleepers. All were "sleeping through the night" (as defined by stretches of at least 5 hours) by about 6-9 months MOST of the time. If they were sick/teething/just feeling wonky they slept more like 3-4 hours. I remember a few up every 2 hours nights, but they have been rare. By age 3, the older two were sleeping fully through the night (at least 8 hours without waking me up), but they had been moved into their own beds by then.

DC#3 still co-sleeps. She slept a full night last night for the first time (9:30 p.m.-6:45 a.m.)
post #51 of 99
i don't buy that one bit. no way. unless she gave them tylenol or something like that and wasn't telling you the whole story...! she wasn't talking about just ONE kid but TWO. i just don't believe it. it feels to me like this is a very competitive friendship/relationship you 2 have...
post #52 of 99
DS is almost 23mos and every once in awhile he'll throw me for a loop and sleep a long stretch - did it twice this past week as a matter of fact, slept 10 hours straight 1 night and 9 hours the next...and then last night was back to waking every 1-2 hours! (and that's even with the before-bed dose of ibuprofen I've been giving him lately - he's working on 2 yr molars) And yes, we cosleep and yes, I bf. (btw, those nights DS "slept through" didn't do me any good b/c I'm so conditioned to wake up that I was awake every 3 hours anyway! Can someone sleep train me???)

I am pg with #2 and I am PRAYING for one of those "dream" babies that actually sleeps longer stretches consistently. I have heard rumors they exist

Although I find it possible that maybe 1 or at most 2 of your friend's kids were "good" sleepers, the majority of times I've heard about such kids it's been just 1 out of the bunch! For example, DS's first dcp had 3 kids, she said the first was sleeping practically through the night from birth and took 4-HOUR naps, she got so spoiled with him! But then the 2 that followed were "normal" sleepers and she had a very rude awakening, as it were...(do ya like my sleep puns????)
post #53 of 99
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Originally Posted by meghandmama View Post
i don't buy that one bit. no way. unless she gave them tylenol or something like that and wasn't telling you the whole story...! she wasn't talking about just ONE kid but TWO. i just don't believe it. it feels to me like this is a very competitive friendship/relationship you 2 have...
No, she didn't dose them with Tylenol. And I know she isn't exaggerating unless maybe they just started sleeping through the night later than she remembers, (not as early as 4 months.) I know her oldest definitely was co-sleeping with Daddy and not waking because she went back to work at night after realizing her child would sleep and not need to nurse. She was just lucky is kind of the consensus I'm seeing after hearing all the responses.
post #54 of 99
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Originally Posted by noah's mom View Post
Although I find it possible that maybe 1 or at most 2 of your friend's kids were "good" sleepers, the majority of times I've heard about such kids it's been just 1 out of the bunch! For example, DS's first dcp had 3 kids, she said the first was sleeping practically through the night from birth and took 4-HOUR naps, she got so spoiled with him! But then the 2 that followed were "normal" sleepers and she had a very rude awakening, as it were...(do ya like my sleep puns????)
Yes, I LOVE your sleep puns,
I think maybe you're right about not all the kids in the bunch turning out to be good sleepers. I would have some anxiety too if I was expecting another baby and I kept hearing that no one else's kids slept dreamily like mine did (imagining myself in her shoes.) I would be nervous too that I would be up waking FREQUENTLY like the rest of us!!
post #55 of 99
Ds started out with a 4 hour stretch. By 3-4 months he would have a 6-7 hour stretch. He has always been a deep sleeper, though. Dd has night weaned herself in the past couple of months at age 2 1/2. She has always been a light sleeper. She never went more than 2 hours between nursing until she was over 17 1/2 months. It was often every 45 minutes at night and totalling 20-30+ times in a 24 hour period at that age. I really think that personality and sleeping style had a lot to do with the differences between my two kids. Ds is 4 1/2. Dd is 2 1/2. They are both still in the family bed and dd still nurses. We'll see if any of this changes when we add baby 3 to our family bed in a couple of months.
post #56 of 99
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Originally Posted by roxyrox View Post
From where? I think if your baby "sleeps through the night" that means that they sleep from when you put them to bed at night so 7/8pm until 7am in the morning say. Now I think that is unusual (although not unheard of for 4 months olds) but most babies I know would definatley sleep for at least 4/5 hours at a time by 4 months old. So I guess it depends what your definition is - that's why I suggested the op ask her friend because when I asked mine their definition differed a lot from mine! lol
I was told by my lactation consultant 1st, and then by my sons doctor. I have also read it several other places. So yes when people say their kids sleep through night and it is only 5 or 6 hrs then for a baby that is sleeping through the night. My son would have sleep 12 hrs straight if I let him, but I didnt like him going that long with out eating. So I would wake him at midnight to feed him and then around 7 or 8 when I would wake up. Then he would go right back to sleep till I woke him to feed him. (This was for the first 9-10 weeks) Then when I started back to work when he was 11 weeks I would give him is last feeding at 9 and wake him at 4:30 to feed him before I went to work. When I got home I would feed him first thing which was around 9 -10. Most the time he hadnt woke up yet from the last time I feed him. Now that he is 11 mo and since he was about 6-7 mo I still feed him at 4:30, but he now goes to bed between 8-8:30. He is usually up for the day by 7 or 8 in the morning. He actually hasnt been waking up at 4:30-5:30 the last week, for a bottle.
post #57 of 99
As far as your friend getting mad when you tell her that her kids sleeping through the night is not the norm and she's lucky... it might be that she wants to consider that her kids sleeping so well at night was NOT just luck, but something that she specifically did, so perhaps that's why she gets upset. Maybe she feels like you are insinuating that there's no way she could've helped her kids to sleep like that and that it's purely luck and no skill (which very well might be the case). Just a thought.

That being said... I'm a co-sleeper and I cannot imagine sleeping through the night (yet) - especially with BF!! My 3.5 month old wakes about every three hours, but it really is pretty easy since I just pull out the boob and go back to sleep. Sometimes I won't remember if we've fed or not, but then I'll look down and my boob will still be out and DS will be happily snoozing, so we must have!
post #58 of 99
Well call me lucky, then. I have two excellent sleepers. DD, now 13, slept with me and slept through the night starting around six weeks of age. For us, that meant from around 10 or 11 pm until around 7 am. No Tylenol, liquor, cereal, or any other "additives." DS is almost 6 weeks and sleeps from 9 or 10 until 5:30, when he wakes to nurse and then generally goes back to sleep until 7 or so. He co-sleeps also and is exclusively breastfed. He gained over a kilo in his first month, so he's not missing anything. My children are not "freaks," just on the other end of the continuum of normal, thankyewverymuch.
post #59 of 99
There are so many factors in this. My dd (26 months) has just recently started sleeping through the night (usually from 8pm-5am then snuggles and sleep for another hour). She woke a ton up until then, even after she weaned. She just needed to touch someone, fuss a little, and go back to sleep. Ds (3 months) so far (fingers crossed) has slept through the night more often than not. He goes to bed at 7pm and will consistantly sleep until 3am without waking, then nurse, and go right back to sleep until between 6-7 am. I know that there will be times (teething, etc.) when this will not be the norm for him, but it was NEVER that way with dd...EVER. So long way of saying, I think it depends a lot on the baby.
post #60 of 99
I haven't read all the replies, but it seems that the consensus is that a 3-4 month old sleeping through the night (5+hours) is rather unusual. None of my kids did, and the youngest and oldest are nursed and the middle one bottlefed (EBM). The two oldest are now sleeping on their own and are mostly in bed the entire night (I, honestly can't tell you if they are "sleeping" that entire time, but at least they aren't coming and waking me ). My youngest is not quite 17 months, and still waking frequently to nurse during the night.
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