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post #21 of 26
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This is an interesting discussion, I think. Not to get too OT, but maybe people are defining liberal and conservative in really different ways. I never thought of bfing or babywearing as conservative. I assumed spanking was a conservative thing to do. I'm thinking too narrowly. I suppose some of the things I do would be considered conservative, but I think of myself as liberal. Funny.
post #22 of 26
I think we tend to define conservative as "old school," or "keeping the status- quo," and liberal as "new school," or "shaking things up."

When you define it in that limited way -- then, yeah, spanking, cribs, schedules, and cry-it-out would be conservative, and attached, responsive parenting would be liberal.

I think liberal attachment parents are shaking up feminism because there's now more open discussion, even among liberals, about the crucial role of mothers in breastfeeding.
post #23 of 26
See, to me I've always thought of conservative in terms of "conserving traditions." In other words, keeping things that are traditional. To some, that might be some harmful things (but then, continuing to do things that have caused harm is sort of the definition of idiocy) but in my family, we keep the tradition of growing and nourishing healthy babies. Working for what we have. Earning every step of our way, without looking around and wondering what we're entitled to. Making our abilities count- can we do useful things? Fix a car? Grow a garden? Heal a wound? Can we use every part of the food we grow or hunt for? Composting vegetable matter, using every part of the deer possible that FIL, DH, BIL, and uncles get in the fall. We limit interferance, is a huge thing- politically and socially. Traditionally, conservatives want to keep governmental interferance at a minimum.

Politically, I can get into a whole other series of describers, but that's not for this forum or thread. I can say it's very similar. I think where people get befuddled and confused is that for so many people, Democrat=liberal, and Republican= conservative. While there probably are a great deal of liberals who are Dems and Conservatives who are Republicans, it's not a mutually exclusive deal. In other words, just like beagles are dogs and not all dogs are beagles, not all conservatives are Republicans.

As a conservative (who has taken quite the road to define myself as such), I spend a lot of time thinking about who I am. I don't really know how to (or if I can) qualify what a liberal is, other than loose definition of dynamic and under change. At any rate, in terms of discipline, I have friends that range over the entire political spectrum. I also belonged to a cooking message board that largely self-identified as moderate/liberal, and I can say for darn sure all those ladies were heavily into punitive discipline and CIO and were very snide when it came to my birth choices.

Clara
post #24 of 26
Yes, I can't help thinking that the people who'd like to criminalize homebirth are probably one type of liberal. Not ALL liberals are opposed to homebirth -- but the people who'd like government interference in issues like homebirth, and extended breastfeeding, are probably more liberal than conservative. Good point, DoulaClara.
post #25 of 26
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Yes, I can't help thinking that the people who'd like to criminalize homebirth are probably one type of liberal. Not ALL liberals are opposed to homebirth -- but the people who'd like government interference in issues like homebirth, and extended breastfeeding, are probably more liberal than conservative. Good point, DoulaClara.

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Not in my experience at all. Perhaps this is more of a matter of US geography than whether conservative or liberal?
post #26 of 26
I'm not saying that all liberals are more likely to want interference in family-life issues such as homebirth. I don't know, it could be more of a geographical issue, as you say.

Most conservatives I know are strongly opposed to some current realities, such as Child Protective Services having the right to invade people's homes. Some liberals are opposed to this, some aren't.

I really respect "Mothering" for the coverage it gave, a few years ago, of the issue of HIV-positive mothers being coerced into formula-feeding their babies. "Mothering" seems to be one liberal magazine that takes a strong stand on supporting personal rights.
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