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post #21 of 25
I agree that they are entitled to have their feelings, and little ones don't have any other way to express that then by having a meltdown. Furthermore, we don't as parents need to "fix" their feelings. Feelings are neither good nor bad, they just--are.

We also do not need to give in to tantrums if we have decided that a NO was necessary. The best way to teach a child to throw fits is to give in when they throw one. I am not talking about the "I'm overtired, hungry, or overstimulated" meltdown which warrants whatever remedy works with that specific child; I am talking about the tantrum thrown with the specific purpose of getting some result. What worked best for my child in those situations was a calm, sympathetic, but firm "I see that you are angry about x, y, or z. When you calm down we can talk about it. Do you feel like going to the car (or to your room) or are you ready to calm down here?" Most times, we needed to relocate, and sometimes a little redirection helped as well. I never really cared what people thought if my toddler was having a meltdown in public--all kids do it at one time or another, and anybody stupid enough to have the opinion that when THEY become parents THEIR kids will never behave in such a fashion will get their comeuppance eventually!
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by heartmama View Post
I'm not sure I agree that children only meltdown because everyone *else* is being unreasonable. I think children are people too and capable of the poor judgment, unreasonable thinking, and selfish motivations the rest of us feel.

Very often adults ARE unreasonable, FAR more often than society helps us realize. Many tantrums are the result of the parent being the inflexible selfish one who wants it their way on their terms, not the other way around.

But I disagree ALL tantrums happen for that reason, or that the only gentle approach is to back off and give a child whatever they are demanding from us with their angry or upset energy. I also don't think the energy itself is bad or wrong or should be punished--but just because my child is upset doesn't automatically make their demand sacrosanct.
My feelings exactly! My kids can be as unreasonable as I can. Usually, I'm able to step into my adult brain and realize when I'm being unreasonable, but not always. And 90% of the time, our unreasonableness comes about because one or more of us is tired or hungry or overstimulated. But that doesn't stop the fact that it happens.

I think a great parenting epiphany for me was when I realized that as children move from infants to toddlers (and children) my job moves from preventing crying to helping children deal with their powerful emotions. For a while I was getting stuck in the "stop the crying at all costs" mode and that wasn't helping ds learn. Certainly sometimes it is reasonable to do what it takes to stop the crying. But other times, it really isn't.
post #23 of 25
For me it depends on how or why they are crying. If my child asks for something, let's say a snack and I say "not right now" because I'm rushing somewhere and he tears up, I'm likely to say "I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were that hungry. Yes, let's have a snack". To me that's just showing respect for his needs.

On the other hand there are definitely times when the tantrum takes on a demanding tone (hard to describe the difference). Where he's tantrumming in an attempt to sway me, or because he's angry. This doesn't happen often, but when it does then I stick to my limit. I've also been known to say afterwards -- "You know, I might have reconsidered that if you'd spoken to me appropriately, but I don't want you to think that behavior is appropriate." Luckily this doesn't happen very often.
post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by hippymomma69 View Post
I have to admit there are times I really get irritated. And it's not usually when I've said "no" to something - it's when DD is melting down because I'm not doing something quickly enough for her, or someone does something differently than the way she wanted it done, or she is melting down because she wanted to do something herself even though she is having trouble and unwilling to let us help her (crying because she can't do something yet).

I don't know why but those instances drive me crazy...I get really defensive and I'm like "oh quit crying" - eek! Maybe it's because if I'm saying no, it's a choice I've made but if she is melting down over something not in my control it's more irritating? Not sure...need to think about this more....

Anyone else know what I mean?
peace,
robyn
YES (bolding mine, because it's what's so true for me).....and

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I know what you mean. I was just telling dp yesterday that if ds whines because he can't have what he wants, that I can deal with that. That makes sense to me. What bothers me to no end is when he's whining about something that I'm *obviously* going to do. Sometimes, he'll ask then whine about it half a second later. Sometimes his first request in in a whine.
YES.

: These are the ones that really really bother me. I can handle the tantrums that are as a result of a limit I've set. The others make.me.nuts. I call those ones his "spazzy" tantrums, because he's spazzing about something that isn't even an issue (I was doing it anyway but not quickly enough, or I am willing to help him but he won't accept my help, both as mentioned above). When it's one about not being quick enough or him just not listening and not hearing my "yes", I've started recently to stop what I'm doing, get down to his eye level, and say, "hey bud. I said yes. We're X, just give it a minute to happen." And that helps, most of the time. The spazzy I-can't-do-it-yet-but-I-don't-want-your-help ones still baffle and irritate me.
post #25 of 25
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I think a great parenting epiphany for me was when I realized that as children move from infants to toddlers (and children) my job moves from preventing crying to helping children deal with their powerful emotions. For a while I was getting stuck in the "stop the crying at all costs" mode and that wasn't helping ds learn. Certainly sometimes it is reasonable to do what it takes to stop the crying. But other times, it really isn't.
This is a cool concept!

I agree that kids have meltdowns for unreasonable reasons (at least mine do!) There is usually another reason, but I don't really think I have the right to deny them the chance to vent their frustration with the injustices of the world. If I can help them identify their frustration better, that's great. But a little tantrum can feel good sometimes, and as long as they're not hurting anyone, I try to allow it.

I can definitely empathize with the OPs though, because my dd is so screechy and whiny and it is hard to remain calm when the noise is like nails on a chalk board. It's easy with ds because he does this little jumping/foot stomping thing that is so cute and expressive. I always tell my dh that i wish I could do that when I'm frustrated.
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