Anyone know UNVAXED kids with autism? - Page 4

[Tracy]

Originally Posted by Mpenny1001

Yes. As I stated two of the four unvaxed kids I know with autism have parents that are not vaxed.

sorry, I missed your post.


btw---how is it that the parents did not get vaxed? Are they in the US? I ask not to be snarky at all....just curious how it happens. I have a girlfriend who is 41 and her mother is from another country and she would not have anything to do with vaccines for her daugther so that is how my friend in unvaxed.

I am a couple years older and got the vaxes that you get in the early 1960s. my mother did not even think to question it. sigh.

[Deborah]

http://www.panna.org/resources/newsr...070730.dv.html

If this study is correct it blows down totally the entire thesis that autism has always been with us at the current rates.

Researchers found the incidence of ASD among children born to mothers living near the locations of highest use of organochlorine insecticides during the first trimester of preganancy to be 6.1 times the incidence for mothers not exposed to these chemicals.

[Deborah]

The arguments I've seen are that autism and asperger's have always been with us and are part of the normal variability of the human species. However, if there is solid evidence that these syndromes are actually the result of environmental factors, it would make sense that they have only become common in the last 80 or 90 years. This isn't proof that vaccines cause autism, but it supports the possibility that damage to a developing brain could be a major factor.

[Mpenny1001]

Originally Posted by Tracy

sorry, I missed your post.


btw---how is it that the parents did not get vaxed? Are they in the US?

Yes, they are in the U.S. They met on the "hippie" (really, it was a religious cult, I think) commune/compound that both their parents lived on in the 70's. These individuals were born and raised there - no vaxxing, schooled in the commune school, ate all food that was grown or raised on the commune, no outside medical assistance - the whole nine yards! The place sort of disintegrated in the mid-80's and the families re-entered society but they never got vaxxed. They went their separate ways then met up again in college, fell in love, got married and had twins who turned out to have autism.

I imagine this scenario is pretty rare, though.

[Ame]

My daughter has autism and she did not have any vax...BUT she was exposed to toxic levels of mercury (through my obsession with albacore tuna sandwiches).

I believe her autism is due to mercury toxicity.

[tashantx]

Originally Posted by Ame

My daughter has autism and she did not have any vax...BUT she was exposed to toxic levels of mercury (through my obsession with albacore tuna sandwiches).

I believe her autism is due to mercury toxicity.

dang how MUCH tuna?: eta sorry that sounds hillbilly! seriously though how much tuna did you ingest?

[Deborah]

Originally Posted by Ame

My daughter has autism and she did not have any vax...BUT she was exposed to toxic levels of mercury (through my obsession with albacore tuna sandwiches).

I believe her autism is due to mercury toxicity.

Oh!

[Ame]

well it wasnt just the tuna (seeing as that does seem a bit extreme )

I had 12 "silver" (aka mercury amalgam) fillings and all the symptoms of toxic teeth...and apparently quite a bit of mercury built up in my body from my own vaccinations and my parents etc.

I also think that my family is sensitive to mercury, as my father..his mom...and her mom all died of ALS/Lou Gherigs which is a neurodegenerative disease which has been linked to mercury.....not to mention all the incidences of Alzheimers in my family (a neurodegenerative disease which has been linked to mercury).

SO there was more to it than just the tuna...I ate 1 large or 2 normal size cans a day, five days a week for the majority of the time I was pregnant...on top of bing under a great deal of stress during that time (which makes your body less able to eliminate small amounts of mercury through waste).

Sorry to alarm the tuna lovers...but if you're pregnant or nursing I would highly recommend you abstain form eating tuna...especially albacore tuna.

[tashantx]

awww I'm sorry ame is it crazy that wic gives out tuna or what off subject but it's kind weird b/c then you assume it's good but hey they give out cows milk too and it's not really all that good either!:

[UUMom]

Originally Posted by Ame

My daughter has autism and she did not have any vax...BUT she was exposed to toxic levels of mercury (through my obsession with albacore tuna sandwiches).

I believe her autism is due to mercury toxicity.

Lucy is adorable! I had to click on your siggy. I love that name. It was always on my short list.

[muldey]

My ds isn't vaxed.He has Asperger's or high functioning autism,depending on which dr I talk to.He had open heart surgery at 10 weeks old,and suffered very minor brain damage from his time on the heart and lung machine.We don't know if that's what caused it.

I did notice at his last ped cardiologist visit,they had a sign up asking for teenagers with Tetralogy of Fallot to participate in a study about developmental issues.I guess the drs have been seeing lots of TOF kids like my ds.He participated in a study like this for babies right after surgery,with follow up at a year old.I really should find the paperwork and let them know about his diagnosis now.

[Mama_in_Maine]

I have two children with Autism. My oldest child was vaccinated on schedule (except for chicken pox and flu) and was diagnosed with Autism at 26 months.
My 17 month old son was just diagnosed with Autism and was (still is) breastfed, no solids until 9 months, natural birth, not circumcisced, I have no fillings, ate no tuna (I too was obsessive about tuna with first childs pregnancy, thought it might have contributed and ate no fish for the twins pregnancy because of it) and he has not had a single vaccination.
I live in rural Maine if that means anything..lol.

[AngelaB]

My son with autism (in hindsight) would probably be on the spectrum even if we had not vaxed. He had symptoms since before 12 months but when he had his 12 months shots at 13 months he stopped talking, lost all eye contact, we thought he was deaf, we couldnt get his attention ect. I think the shots made it 100 times worse then if he wouldnt have had any shots.

Through testing and suppliments, diet changes,ect we have found that he does not detoxify his body propperly and this makes all problems worse. Did the shots cause autism...no I dont think so but it definately made it far worse.
Angela

[twogreencars]

Yes. I have one.

[williamsmommy2002]

My oldest ds has only had his 2 months shots and has autism. He showed signs from birth though. Ds2 is completely unvaxed and has autism.

[waiflywaif]

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I have a problem with this kind of "evidence."

Most researchers believe that, like many other things, autism probably has both a genetic and an environmental component. Genes are not always expressed. It's possible that the increase in autism is due to environmental (toxic) causes, but that those people with the disorder also have a genetic predisposition toward it, which would not have been enough to cause symptoms had it not been for the environmental part.

[AnnesMoM]

I don't know any IRL, my nephew has many symptoms of an autistic spectrum disorder. He was unvaxxed and developing normally until his parents decided to apply for WIC. The wic office told them he needed to be vaxxed, so they took him to the health dept and they "caught him up". He was about 10 months, so I'm not sure what they gave him, but my sil said it was around 6-7 shots. He's never been the same since. That said, my brother was born with symptoms of Asperger's and everyone noticed something wrong at birth (low muscle tone), but my mom had had a tooth filled when she was pregnant with him...Hg poisoning? Who knows. Like many of the pp's, I believe there are so many variables that can cause symptoms that currently are grouped together under "Autism Spectrum Disorders" that we may never know what causes some children to develop it while others who seem to be more at risk never do.

[Tracy]

Originally Posted by Mpenny1001

Yes, they are in the U.S. They met on the "hippie" (really, it was a religious cult, I think) commune/compound that both their parents lived on in the 70's. These individuals were born and raised there - no vaxxing, schooled in the commune school, ate all food that was grown or raised on the commune, no outside medical assistance - the whole nine yards! The place sort of disintegrated in the mid-80's and the families re-entered society but they never got vaxxed. They went their separate ways then met up again in college, fell in love, got married and had twins who turned out to have autism.

I imagine this scenario is pretty rare, though.

very interesting. And I agree, I'm sure very rare.

Thanks for the reply!

[Tracy]

any moms here who had vax shots?