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post #81 of 287
The lentil's latest response to most of our requests is "I cannot cooperate with that!" We've started using that as our stock phrase too. It's kind of funny.
"Honey, can you hand me the juice?" "I cannot cooperate with that."

We went out to get worms to make our worm bin yesterday and the store that said they had them didn't have them. Even after I phoned and they said they had worms. Nope- not until after the 15th. the liars. I got my kid all worked up over our worm bin and I couldn't deliver. grrrrrr. : I want a herd of worms living under my sink and I want it NOW!

Go, renae!

Elsanne- that party looks like so much fun. We're starting negotiations for the lentil's party. My first impulse was to invite every child we know, but I think we're going small this year. a third birthday is not an event for a thousand hungry toddlers. It's a quiet and happy day that is relaxing and yay. At least for us it is.
post #82 of 287
Popping my head above water for a moment to say hi I have not had a computer for the last couple of weeks and it has been bad, bad, bad. My SIL loaned me her laptop so I am back in the game, girls.

Well into the second week of SAHMness. It's going great but I am cranky right now (the last few days) in a fuming under the surface kind of way. I am really angry about Alison's stance that I not nurse Annabel for comfort. We are doing no paci, she stopped liking my pinky finger and so I am left all day with a needing to suck baby that has nothing to suck on. I don't think it is fair, but I respect Alison enough to not sneak-nurse. It's hard.

Other than that and the general overwhleming stress of two small children and a house to run, all is well. I just wanted to check in and say I love you all.

Oh, and KK - Eleanor pooped in the potty this morning too! Yippee for small blessings.
post #83 of 287
Lisa---that sounds hard! Both of my girls were/are binky babes, but C also liked to suck on the corner of a prefold. Any non binky chewy/mouthy kind of stuff she might like?

EL--- Bummer that you'll have to wait longer to start the bin. Ain't it fun having a verbally precocious toddler? :
post #84 of 287
Lisa, that must be sor hard! I think I would have to forcibly stop myself from nursing - it's so second nature to me! Are you doing no paci on principle? I know some people are dead against them, but I actually think they are just the thing for a high sucking-needs baby. Any chance you would reconsider this?
post #85 of 287
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Originally Posted by mamameg View Post
Lisa, that must be sor hard! I think I would have to forcibly stop myself from nursing - it's so second nature to me! Are you doing no paci on principle? I know some people are dead against them, but I actually think they are just the thing for a high sucking-needs baby. Any chance you would reconsider this?
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post #86 of 287
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I'm grumpy this morning. Will someone please say something that will perk me up?
KK--I am so glad you got a poop on the potty. When I first got that message I didn't respond because I was grumpy enough myself.



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Originally Posted by emmalola View Post
The lentil's latest response to most of our requests is "I cannot cooperate with that!" We've started using that as our stock phrase too.
THIS is too funny. I can't believe he's speaking like that. Right now Sol just said, "mami, yo play ana (mumble) dumbo". She also says this like Bebe en la house...very Spanglish 'round here.

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Originally Posted by A&L+1 View Post
I am really angry about Alison's stance that I not nurse Annabel for comfort. We are doing no paci, she stopped liking my pinky finger and so I am left all day with a needing to suck baby that has nothing to suck on. I don't think it is fair, but I respect Alison enough to not sneak-nurse. It's hard.
Gah! I respect your decision but GAH! Sometimes you cannot go against mother nature. You are both lactating women. She should benefit from that. But of course, I'm sure she has her highly-thought-out reasons. I feel your frustration and would feel the same. Esp. with no paci.
post #87 of 287
lisa i would be really frustrated too especially with the no paci. it is like you need *something* in your arsenal to take care of a tiny babe. otherwise you have such a hard job on your hands. (or i should say such a HARDER job....because it is a hard job to begin with). i assume alison is pumping and you're giving bottles (?). i think back to isaac in the baby room at daycare and he would have a paci in sometimes when i got there. he would never suck on one when he was with me (spit it right out every time). but he needed something when i wasn't there so they could get him to take it.


my day has felt : i didn't even get to work until 10:30. i overslept and then did dishes and i showered with mr. stinkbutt which takes much longer. and then we had a 'chase me to get my clothes on' escapade and the bank and the post office to mail some chocolate off to our moms. which will probably melt in bakersfield maybe they can just lick it off the bag

so i have no help for the anti-grumpies. except well...how about a visit from me next march???? THAT should cheer you up! ha. seriously though i am planning to visit boulder next march. my english friends are doing another ski trip to colorado (don't know which town yet) but i *really* want to make it to ski with them and also visit our friends in boulder to see their new babe too. she is due may 22nd so we are in a race to birth first


is it lunch time yet?? food perks me up these days. especially leftover lebanese food and brown cow maple yogurt. :

i cannot cooperate with that

ok. 11:55 is close enough to noon in my book.
post #88 of 287
I'm back!!!!! Sorry to not have posted sooner, but we just got Internet on Monday and you know, the post-trip duties have been all-consuming.

We made it back from KS before the awful storms and flooding. And, the town that got wiped out is way far away from my family. We were in Topeka, in the northeast corner of the state. Not that I haven't been in my share of tornadoes...one hit my high school and my car in 11th grade, just to name one (but, please, no Dororthy jokes). Luckily, T-town was spared this major damage. Though I talked to my mom today and apparently the flooding has been massive very near her, but she's fine. I appreciate all your good thoughts!!!

We had a great trip, as did dh. Just glad to be back and continue unpacking!!! Fun, fun.

Jstar-Colorado in March sounds fun. I'd love to see you too, so keep me and KK updated.

I want G to poop (or pee, for that matter) on the toilet! I feel we're on the verge of it, but for now, we're content with him peeing in his own potty at bedtime.

elsanne-the party sounds very fun! I think we're just going low-key and having a Birthday/Memorial Day/Come to our New House BBQ. Probably 6 or so kids plus parents and your basic hamburger/hot dog/bratz menu.

KK-you posed an interesting question about kids at church functions. I, of course, have many thoughts on this, although I'm not UU (but I could easily be one). Someday, I'd love to write a book about it, but for now, I'll address my own experience. When G was young, he was with me all the time at church, mostly in the sling. I nursed him in a small parlor outside the sanctuary, with an occasional nursing in the back pew of the church once I felt more comfortable. Most other moms of babies put them in the nursery or they just didn't come. G never liked the nursery and he's always done incredibly well in the services, even now. I think many of the old timers (and the Episcopal church has oodles) thought he shouldn't be with me all the time, but since dh was one of the ministers, I think I avoided too much flack. Nursing with the new one will be interesting as the church is much smaller and dh is the only minister...not sure how I'll handle it yet. But, I intend to do it much the same as with G. Churches need to be so much more hospitable to kids...and in their present configuration, they just aren't most of the time.

Lisa-I bet it is tough to not nurse! It does seem to be a major benefit to a two-female parenting team...but I respect that you're trying to honor A's viewpoints. I hope it goes better.....

I know I've left off many more personal responses. Just needed to check in with you all. I've missed you!
post #89 of 287
Am I being disrespective if I ask why A gets to dictate the terms of your SAHMness? If little A needs to comfort suck, why should she be deprived? I would have such a hard time not nursing her. I'm probably a wiener, but I think I'd say something like, "Dude (because I always say dude), you have to give me *either* the paci or the boob. You choose." :

Jacquie, I really appreciate your input. I definitely get the "(s)he shouldn't be with me all the time" vibe. Apparently, many people refer to me as the kangaroo mom (because I often have a kid on me in an Ergo). I took it positively before last week. I'm still smarting, and it doesn't help that there's been no resolution. (One older lady tried to say some things which I think she thought would make me feel better, but all it made me feel was angry and that I don't want someone making decisions for me "in my best interest"... eg, she kept saying how hard the trip would have been on L, etc--*lady*, I *know* my own kid!).

Jess, I would *love* it if you visited.

EL, you can have our worms. I'm tired of them already.

Ack, I'm at the computer, trying to research the Boy Scouts (we were asked if we wanted T to be a Cub Scout next year). From what I'm reading... nope. We have to find something else. After everything we've taught T about relationships (incl. homosexuality), I think if it ever came up, we'd look like giganto-hypocrites.
post #90 of 287
Hey Claudia, how's the S eating/nursing thing going? No worries if you don't want to go into it, but I've been thinking of you.

Jacqueline - good to hear from you! Glad you're back, safe, and back in the swing of unpacking.

I want a worm box. Although our chickens will eat all our kitchen scraps before too long.
post #91 of 287
Psst. MCSB: I'll trade you worms for chickens. Or better yet, worm eggs for chicken eggs.
post #92 of 287
Waaaaaaaahhhhhhh
My sleeping babe, NAK, was just woken by the freaking dog and just erased my entire post. But I am going to try to recreate it. Just waaaah. Here's what I was trying to type: (warning, thoughtful phrasing erased with the kick of a baby's heel, and best intentions to follow)

Just checking in, and I didn't have time to read all the rest (y'all got chatty while I was working!) but this really caught my eye

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Originally Posted by A&L+1 View Post
I am really angry about Alison's stance that I not nurse Annabel for comfort. We are doing no paci, she stopped liking my pinky finger and so I am left all day with a needing to suck baby that has nothing to suck on. I don't think it is fair, but I respect Alison enough to not sneak-nurse. It's hard.
I can't imagine. I have a hard time in the grocery store, when someone's baby is screaming for comfort several aisles away, not running over there and plucking that child out of the cart and comforting them myself. I really can't imagine if it was my baby, and I knew I had comforting tools, but wasn't allowed to use them.

At the same time, I can completely understand not wanting someone else to nurse *my* baby, by which I mean the one I birthed. It's a sacred relationship. I think I feel differently now that it's my third instead of my first (oh, how I truly wish DH could nurse sometimes. I wouldn't be retyping this post now ). And I really can't express how much I respect you for respecting her in this. But I would have to talk about it with her - if nursing would be best for Annabel, then that should be the biggest concern.

Out of curiosity, how would you feel about her nursing E (not that E would probably go for it at this point)? Hypothetically? Would that help as a discussion topic?

I hope this has come off sounding right. It's late (8:30 ha) and I am tired. But thinking of you.
post #93 of 287
OK, finally 5 seconds to post with nobody sucking on me or erasing my work...

KK I was born in Boulder and am dying to go back.

We attend an Episcopalian church (as much as we can) and I have nursed every one of my babies in the front pew, with no worries and no problems. Have thoughts but can't sem to get them out well.
OK, I really have to go to bed.

: everyone
post #94 of 287
I wish I could say I was born in Boulder (well, 2 of my kids can). I was born in Craig. Now do a search and find out how remote and rednecky that place is. I will admit that part of the reason I decided to forgo an academic career was because I wanted to be back here so much (I know I could have settled for a straight research position, but that fell to the wayside, too ). Yep, here I am... goal in life: live in Boulder. Mission accomplished.

Can't really say "God intended this" in a UU church. Especially one with as humanist a bent as ours. That hasn't actually happened, though I know that there are some people who seem uncomfortable about babies over ~6 mos. nursing (and/or seem to think that the cuddle room (aka crying room) is a good place to do that). There's a bit of a culture clash going on between the oldsters and the youngsters at our church, though. I wouldn't mind us coming up with a policy (to match state law) stating that mothers can nurse their kids anywhere in church they have a right to be.

I'm a total johnny-come-lately to the seedlings/eggcarton thing (good thing, too, because last frost here is either the 20th or 31st of May, depending on who you believe). The sunflowers are starting to come up. The mother's day "gift" I requested was to have an entire day to garden (I want to set up a couple of "square foot garden" beds, among other things). T's school is doing a zero waste thing with the local recycling organization, so they're composting all their food waste. As a thank you, free compost was distributed Tues. I have a bunch of that, on top of my own stuff. Time to feed the trees, too...

Cross your fingers, because I think Z is potty-trained. He's even doing fine with naps. T (Mr. Sound Sleeper) is still in a pull-up at night, though he's getting close to abandoning it. I could totally see a scenario where Z is out of a night-time dipe before T (because Z is not as sound a sleeper). It would really piss T off. (so to speak
post #95 of 287
go Z! we are battling bad diaper rash which is even more frustrating to me because i think we could *theoretically* not have this problem anymore! oh how i hate the diaper rash.

i could see not wanting someone else to nurse my babe. (i could also see having someone willing and able nurse my babe). i'm am sure there is a lot wrapped up in that decision on her part. you probably have a special relationship with E, lisa, because you were the nurser and A wants that with A. but then i have to think there has to be binky compromise. A is old enough now it seems it shouldn't be too disruptive to nursing (plus if you're doing bottles that is already an artificial nipple). and with a babe you can really control the 'when' a lot easier than with a toddler who can start demanding it. ie. only when really needed during the day. otherwise it is boobietime. all these are obvious thoughts.....but i hope you keep talking through it and reach some resolution or else it will keep stewing

hi jaqueline! glad you were safe and clear of the tornado zone. and i will keep you all posted on the trip. i think they're skiing in vail or beaver creek so we can just fly to denver and toodle around in a rentacar.

our eggcarton seeds are doing ok. the california poppies have flopped after a couple of 'dry' days. a moi-induced drought the cosmos and lupine are doing well. and some other flower i can't remember now. i also scattered the rest of the seeds in the back yard for a survival of the fittest competition

last night was fun sarah isaac loves your 'shickens'
post #96 of 287
KK I edited my earlier post (probably while you were posting) because I just wasn't getting my point out, and in thinking about it I've revised my point several times so it' still a work in progress.

The most remote places I remember living are Pie Town, NM and Gila, NM.

Our egg cartons are doing well, though they dry out so fast that on days when I'm home late the plants have definitely suffered. Time to transplant for better moisture retention. Looks like I might get some tomato and basil plants out of the whole project!

Allison is dry all day now, but we're not having any luck with nighttime. Specifically, her diaper can be dry in the morning for a week at a time, and if we don't put her in a diaper she inevitably wets the bed. Not sure how to proceed there - just give her more time?
post #97 of 287
just drive by posting. reading along but not really enough time or hands to post regularly.

~c
post #98 of 287
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Allison is dry all day now, but we're not having any luck with nighttime. Specifically, her diaper can be dry in the morning for a week at a time, and if we don't put her in a diaper she inevitably wets the bed. Not sure how to proceed there - just give her more time?
http://www.zoombabygear.com/id43.html

nighttime pull on waterproof trainers. i think i'll get (or try to make) a few of these if we ever get to this stage. cynthia (the one who sews those) said they work great for nighttime training because they 'look' like underwear so they're good for the kiddo but your sheets are saved.

hi claudia
post #99 of 287
I feel the need to chime in on the whole nursing the baby thing. I have a really strong emotional reaction to this, because for the last 18 months, I have had to feed/nurse my child according to the dictates of others, often against what I felt was right. The only reason I complied (partially) was to avoid a CPS investigation. I know it's not the same, because A. is a parent, too. However, I feel it is important to respect the needs and beliefs of the person who is spending time with the kid. My babysitter requested a paci for W. I really don't want W to have a paci. However, I decided that since I wasn't around and she couldn't nurse him, I needed to respect her request. I ended up giving her a list of things to try first (diaper, bottle, wiggle time, sling/walk, outside time, checking in w/ me to see if i have time to nurse) and she's never actually needed the paci, fortunately.

Another example: (nak) i really don't like tv, and i know dh uses it between .5 hrs and 2 hrs while i'm gone on my 27 hr shift. while i share my feelings w/ dh about tv, i don't _forbid_ him from using it. he's the parent who's in charge at that moment, and he has to find his own groove w/ ds1.

as far as the nursing duo concept goes, i guess i must admit my bias- i have allowed others to nurse L (though he rejected it), and have nursed other people's kids, so it's not a big deal to me. so it's hard for me to put myself in a's shoes.

i realize this is all my own baggage and may have nothing to with you (Lisa) and A. so feel free to disregard any or all of my vent.
post #100 of 287
Dying to know what Lisa has thought of our thoughts.

Wondering where Mama Nugget goes when she wanders so far afield???
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