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post #101 of 292
Darcy, Im so sorry to hear that. We've had a few weeks where we've had to deal with some traumatic -grown up- stuff and it could have been really difficult with the kids around all the time, homeschooling I mean. But we have handled it amazingly. It was a situation that the children are far too young to deal with and something I would never want them to know. A few pages back I wrote a bit about it. Im finding that when the kids are homeschooled we are all able to go thru things like that together and school would totally get in the way of the natural way of grieving or dealing with difficult situations. Im very sorry for your loss.
gen
post #102 of 292
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
DD has mostly been reading anime books and working on some math. It's been pretty boring here we were all exhausted from going out of town last weekend so it was kinda zombies catching up on sleep this week.

That's kind of the description I could give for here as well. We were out of town all day yesterday, and it was a lot of time in the car. We got home around 10:30 lastnight, and today we are just lazing a bit.

Both kids are into math and some other stuff right now. Ds is going to be getting his GED soon, and he wants to be prepared for some of that. Dd has been into fractions and division, but she did some writing a few days ago. She's currently watching a Reese Witherspoon movie.
post #103 of 292
My boys said to me this morning-
"Its Monday night and there's no 'Botball meeting to go to, what ever are we going to do???"
*said tongueincheek, of course!*

We're going to actually sit down together and eat dinner together! Clean up the kitchen, maybe take a walk afterwards. The robots have taken up so much of our time especially this last week. It was just crazy-intense!

They swore on Saturday that they didn't want to see another robot until next year. Wanna know what they were doing on Sunday afternoon? Yup, messing around with the 'bot! LOL!

I need to re-focus myself alittle bit. The other parents I was with all day Saturday were very nice and VERY school-orientated. 3 public school teachers, 1 ex-PS teacher now homeschooling her own children and 1 dad is some sort of microbiological engineer or something. All were very nice, VERY intelligent and I felt totally intimidated. Especially when asked what I was before I was a HS mom.
(I married and had son#1 at age 18. Never went to college, haven't held an outside job in 18 years.)

I spent Sunday feeling like a failure and that we've been wasting too much time "doing nothing" and we should be "doing" more schooly stuff. *sigh*
post #104 of 292
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Originally Posted by genifer View Post
Darcy, Im so sorry to hear that. We've had a few weeks where we've had to deal with some traumatic -grown up- stuff and it could have been really difficult with the kids around all the time, homeschooling I mean. But we have handled it amazingly. It was a situation that the children are far too young to deal with and something I would never want them to know. A few pages back I wrote a bit about it. Im finding that when the kids are homeschooled we are all able to go thru things like that together and school would totally get in the way of the natural way of grieving or dealing with difficult situations. Im very sorry for your loss.
gen
thanks, gen. dh wasn't really close to his grandfather (lots of baggage there...), but it saddens us to know his grandma(step) is now alone .
we contemplated visiting, but are glad we chose to stay home. It would not have made sense to ds and dd at all (they still ask when their friend's dog ic soming back (she passed a way a few moths back).
Sorry to hear you all are dealing with some tough things, too. Life can be a challenge with little ones...
post #105 of 292
It's great to hear what everyone is doing lately, and to see so many teens around!

We've had a great weekend. Saturday started with ds playing around on Stellarium again, that led to questions about the names of planets and moons and several hours spent looking through Greek myth websites and books, then he decided to read along with me in David Copperfield for an online book club I belong to. He spent the afternoon climbing on a local climbing rock and riding his bike with friends.

Sunday, well, we woke up at 2pm, ate chips for breakfast and when I left for work, ds was looking up ham sandwiches on Wikipedia, then slept the rest of the day We went out for milkshakes after I came home from work (it was just that kind of day ) Oh yeah, ds did read some of the Pagan Holiday book we bought the other day, and explained to me how the Pax Romana and Roman political and economic organization enabled a tourist industry 2000 years ago. That was right before the milkshakes

Today, the sun is shining and we'll finally be able to see the stars tonight to compare what we see from our balcony with Stellarium. We figured out last night on our walk where Saturn is. Ds spent the morning listening to political radio online, since we're having a provincial election here, there have been rumours of a federal election for months now, and the US election season is gearing up, ds is comparing the Cdn and US systems and how elections operate in practice.

DillonandMarasmom, so sorry to hear about your loss.

Genifer, I don't avoid ds anymore, at almost 14, it's more the other way around now, but when ds was younger, I had more than a few long "baths" with the door locked, until ds learned how to pick the lock. They do grow out of the constantly needing mommy thing, really, they do.

Joan, I could so relate to the "I smell chocolate" thing, ds can hear a chip bag or chocolate bar being unwrapped from 3 rooms away. Of course, he's in the middle of the insane teen growth spurt and will eat whole loaves of bread as a "light snack", so hiding food is pretty well an impossible dream here. I swear, he can hear me chewing!

CarolM, that's so cool for your team and your boys!

Thystle, I have found with ds, and with almost all the other hsing kids I ever me, that they act way younger in terms of negative older behavior, and way older in terms of positive behavior. By that I mean that hsing kids will tend to act like "kids" longer, play with toys, explore, engage in imaginative play and engage with younger kids, for longer than ps kids, and don't have the early interest in sex, drugs, smoking, etc, that ps kids do (when ds was in ps last year, every single kid in grade 7 spent almost all their time "dating", obsessing over who was dating whom, trying to break couples up, trying to set couples up, they had the interest, but were way too young to understand the implications, so things got out of hand quickly.) On the other hand, hsing kids tend to act more mature in terms of their articulation, the way they present themselves, their willingness to engage adults in discussion and conversation, their ability to defend their own beliefs and opinions. It's something I've noticed in all hsing kids, no matter how they are hsed, as long as they are at home, and don't spend a very large amount of time with their peer group. One of the things that shocked me the most about ds's transition into ps last year, was how quickly he lost his sense of self and his individuality. About 3 weeks. It was scary, and a large part of the reason why I pulled him out again. I thought that having been at home for 4 years would have kind of "insulated" him against being overwhelmed by peer pressure, and that he had such a strong personality and sense of self that he wouldn't lose it so easily. Boy was I wrong. We are both now thoroughly convinced that ds will hs all through high school.
post #106 of 292
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Originally Posted by DTmama1 View Post
Neat meeting another unschooling daycare momma. I'm not as AP as most folks on here, but am moving towards more natural living. Do you charge more than other daycares in the area for providing organic meals? That's something I eventually want to do, but it hasn't quite fit into the budget yet. Next summer I want to do a garden though. How many kids do you have each day? GTG to Occupational therapy now (had surgery on my wrist a few months ago) so I'll write more later.
Melody
Hey Melody,
I have an organic garden, so lots of veggies come from there. I am in the habit of buying org. snacks, fruits, and the like, so it doesn't really cut into my already tight budget too much. We have already cut out unneccessaries, like cell phones and cable, so we just make sure food is a priority.
As for fees, I do charge more, but I do not charge when kids don't come, I encourage cd-ing, baby/kid-wear as needed, take lots of trips to parks, nature walks, the kids help with gardening, kids nap when *they* are ready (no CIO), and gd/taking children seriouosly (TCS) are both central to my philosophy.
I am part-time (I watch 3 little ones all less than 3 days per week), but may begin watching their brand-new siblings if things work out that way...I love the families I work with, very much on the same level with our family.
I'd love to hear how unschooling goes for you all, too.
Peace,
Darcy
post #107 of 292
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Originally Posted by dillonandmarasmom View Post
DH attended the funeral of a friend today
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On a somber note, DH's grandfather just passed away (like within the past 30 minutes). So, we will be explaining this to the kids in the coming weeks as we are surrounded by grieving family. Some lessons are hard to look forward to...
Wow, what an emotional day!
post #108 of 292
Thanks, Ruth. I do not believe my Dh has comprehended it all as of yet. He is sort of going with the flow at work today...sounds very hum-drum on the phone. I am hoping we can talk this evening. (I had to wake him last night to tell him, so I think he may not have really absorbed it).
The kids are all business as usual. DS is stacking these cool little wooden robots he got for his bday. DD and her little friend are "cooking" up some goodies in their litchen. I have been getting int he way as usual, so I am catching up on email and having a soda (my self-regulated break-time ).
post #109 of 292
Hey Everyone,

Well we had a crazy week last week (refer to my posts in GD lol) we are rebuilding the fence in our back yard with my parents and neighbors so it's really busy and intense and dh also has been spending all his spare time on it so it has been slightly stressfull chaos here. It's really intereesting to me though that 4yo ds will play happily by himslef all day with a group of adults working around him, whereas if he was in the exact same yard with the exact same toys with just me sitting on the steps or reading a book he owul dbe in my face begging me to play with him all day!

Hopefully the fence will be done this week and then we can start putting our garden in which I am very excited about. Thats pretty much all we have been working on. It rained all weekend so we had some nice time to come down on the weekend though, also went to see dh's mothers choral group with DS. Today we went for a walk in the parka nd to the playground and over to a friends house.

Last week Dh and some friends took the kids to see the snake pits (where all the hundreds of garter snakes gather to mate int he spring).

And on the topic of funny quotes, when we were at a kids party last week the kids were eating pizza and the dad handed my ds a can of pop. He held up the can and yelled "Hey! Is this beer for kids?"

Oh yeah and all this month is mayworks:festival of labour and the arts so we are going to a lot of events for that.
post #110 of 292
We've been chillin' with our new baby chicks. Such sweetness.
post #111 of 292
alima... I have found the exact same true for 99% of the homeschoolers I have known (there have been a handful though...: ) You were much more eloquent than I was feeling yesterday! My son was born in '93 too!


dillonandmarasmom... {{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}







Today is usually my "relax" day. Most Monday's. Though we got on a roll in the middle od the kids playing with Bionicles and I read them 6 books out loud, in addition to the "main" book we are reading out loud.






How many of you read a long "novel" type book outloud to your kids? Like reading Harry Potter or something similar? I still do it... and the kids like it. We are on the "Septimus Heap" second book: Flyte.
post #112 of 292
Hi Thystle, we've been reading The Once and Future King for the last few months. Ds doesn't want to hear me read every day any more, but he can dip in and out of the book once a week or so. When I was younger I had a friend who's mom still read out loud to her when she was in her twenties, they would take turns reading their favorite novels and plays to each other. I've always hoped to have that kind of literate relationship with ds.

We listen to books on cd, BBC radio has a great station full of science, history and book shows, we listen to CBC radio during the day, and late at night when they play international talk radio (ds usually stays up way later than me, 3 or 4 am, and listens to the Dutch, Czech and Russian radio programs.)
post #113 of 292
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Originally Posted by carolm22117 View Post
Our robotics team placed 3rd, THIRD, in the robot tournament Saturday!!!
THIRD place out of 11 teams. They placed above some schools that had been competing for 3 years. This was our very first year, we were the only homeschool team there. The team that won it has an entire robotics COURSE taught at their school. Our team was a bunch of boys that opened up a box of parts 8 weeks ago and none of them had ever touched a robot before, let alone built and programmed one.

Not only that, they won the Judges Choice Trophy! Its HUGE, I'll put pics up on my blog soon. They were kinda bummed with *only* placing third until I explained to them that to be Judges Choice was the bigger honor.

The engineering department at Rose-Hullman puts on the competition. The judges (the professors, students and grad students) look at the robots, interview the teams and then they choose the winner of the trophy. Our little homeschool team was the one they chose this year! Professors and Grad students were impressed enough with our boys to give them the award. The other moms and I were crying when they one that one. It truly was an amazing honor for them!! (They totally understood it once we explained that to them.)

To place 3rd in the tournament, their first year out is HUGE, just huge. They learned everything, everything from the ground up in 8 weeks. And they did it on their own. They had some adult mentors help, but at the competition no adult could touch the robot. The boys could ask for advice, but they had to handle everything.

It was just amazing to watch this group of 6 teenage boys handle everything yesterday with such focus and maturity and grace!

Actually, all of the teams there were amazing to watch. It was a competition, yes, but everyone was cheering for everyone else and helping each other out with spare parts or advice or encouragement. It was wonderful to see!!

We're qualified to go to the Nationals in Hawaii this summer, but thats not gonna happen. Ah well.......

Ok, that was really long and braggy, but my mama heart is just bursting today!!!! Thanks for letting me get that off my chest!


Yay!! That is sooooo neat!!! And to get the judges choice trophey too is just fantastic!!! Congratulations to your guys!!!
post #114 of 292
So ds told the fist person IRL that he is homeschooling!! (we're really new to being official about it, and for the last 2 yrs (up until Feb of this year), Ds attended a waldorf preschool/K program)

It was so positive, it was great!! I know this seems minor, but it has been a huge thing for me (I don't think so much for ds). He was asked where he goes to school and simply and happily said "I homeschool". The person's response was so positive, it was really reinforcing.


Other than that..... we've been busy trying to decide what to do housing wise (and taking the kids on waaaaay to many trips to "look at property"!). So, we made an offer on this really neat 1820s cape that has been really lovingly restored, but still needs a bit of restoration work that Dh is psyched to do (he's a contractor, but hasn't ever done restoration work). Our offer was accepted, so we now will begin the whole process of finalizing all the financials, and moving! The boys are really excited about the whole thing, but mainly the back yard!! It is really big, open fields going into forest with these cool druid stones and several awesome climbing trees!!



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Hey. Do you ever, uhhh, avoid your children? or hide from them with the warm brownies you just made... and eat ALL of them, not willing to share any of them with anyone? Or, like, strongly suggest that they go and play somewhere.... else.... far away from mum? Ive been like that the past few weeks. working on getting back into the swing of things soon.
I totally do. Not everyday, but there are just some days when I really need space (I'm an only child, and am a Scorpio.....so I really thrive on regular time to just be in my head!!) This is why I don't totally hate cleaning!! When I'm cleaning I can't be playing trucks, or star wars or whatever .

But, like many of the others said, my days of hiding brownies are over. I got busted with chocolate breath too I do maintain a stash of chocolate bars, for emergency purposes (these emergencies seem to occur daily ) but baked goods are totally fair game.....since the little one usually helps, they are impossible to hide!!!
post #115 of 292
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Originally Posted by dillonandmarasmom View Post
Hey Melody,
I have an organic garden, so lots of veggies come from there. I am in the habit of buying org. snacks, fruits, and the like, so it doesn't really cut into my already tight budget too much. We have already cut out unneccessaries, like cell phones and cable, so we just make sure food is a priority.
As for fees, I do charge more, but I do not charge when kids don't come, I encourage cd-ing, baby/kid-wear as needed, take lots of trips to parks, nature walks, the kids help with gardening, kids nap when *they* are ready (no CIO), and gd/taking children seriouosly (TCS) are both central to my philosophy.
I am part-time (I watch 3 little ones all less than 3 days per week), but may begin watching their brand-new siblings if things work out that way...I love the families I work with, very much on the same level with our family.
I'd love to hear how unschooling goes for you all, too.
Peace,
Darcy
Very cool. My plan was to get a garden going this spring/summer, but honestly it's not looking good at this point... hopefully we will get things figured out at least so we can do one next year. We had planned to fence in the other half of the backyard this month or next but DH is being laid off so we won't have the cash for that, and honestly if the garden isn't in the fenced in area where the kids are- I won't get out there to take care of it.

One of my families CD's and I use them here. I don't... by the time I decided I wanted to, DD will be out of diapers soon (I hope!) but plan to with our next children.

I finally have my first bfing daycare family! (amazing that I did daycare 2 years without a single one before this!) but even they are starting to supplement and wean her already, I'm very bummed

I'm working on gentle discipline, I don't use spanking at all of course with the daycare kids and have really been working lately on saying yes to things and finding a positive solution. It is a journey, not something I've been able to change overnight.

I nap the infants when they need it, not a strict schedule, but do try to teach them to fall asleep on their own. I'm not able to hold them the whole time they sleep because it just isn't feasible with this many other little ones. Once they go to one nap all the kids nap at the same time... I think being on the Food Program and licensed makes it harder for things AP. I have to serve meals at the exact same time every day, we ALL have to go outside at the same time and are required to if weather permits. Shots required unless religious exemption (ick), etc.

I use my sling some, but really want to find one I like better, the one I have I always feel like they're going to fall out when I'm bending down and getting up and down constantly.

I'm very excited about our unschooling journey though. I read my first John Holt book last week and am working on Gatto right now, it is mindblowing how much sense it all makes!
post #116 of 292
dillonandmarasmom, I am so sorry for all that you and dh are going through right now.



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It's really intereesting to me though that 4yo ds will play happily by himslef all day with a group of adults working around him, whereas if he was in the exact same yard with the exact same toys with just me sitting on the steps or reading a book he owul dbe in my face begging me to play with him all day!
I know! What is with that? It's like they have some kind of radar: "mommy's relaxing, mommy's relaxing!"
post #117 of 292
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I know! What is with that? It's like they have some kind of radar: "mommy's relaxing, mommy's relaxing!"
I think that thats actually a privelage that belongs only to mums. It will probably only last for a few years (like mentioned earlier about her teen) so as much as I do like my space, I have to keep in mind that they are so special and I must be so special to them to need me so . Ive found my bestest most favouritest place to be alone and spend some quiet time. In my car early in the morning. It was raining today and it was such a special time. That is my new place.
post #118 of 292

The peer pressure thing...

Alima, had to chime in about your mention of peer pressure in your above post...it made me think of the Gordon Neufeld book "Hold On to Your Kids". It mentions homeschooling a few times, and the underlying theme of the book is attachment, how it helps us influence and guide our kids, and that separations from them (such as parents pushing to organize "playtime" and playgroups for toddlers who hardly are capable of understanding what a friendship is, or just plain being sent to school in a large organized setting without an attachment "anchor" ) leads to kids who are harder to parent, to teach, etc...we wonder why we have teenagers who seem like total strangers to us! It did a great job describing the "culture" of teenagers and how it develops as well. It is an awesome book, and articulates one of the reasons we homeschool...I want to keep my family intact, and I just can't picture sending my kids away and just missing a huge chunk of their lives.

Sad, I saw two girls the age of my dd today (7 ish) and they had miniskirts, seemed so "grown up". I have even heard FIVE year olds in kindergarten saying boys aren't cool! EEeek! I would rather have my innocent girl anyday!

Tina
post #119 of 292
DD got the Pokemon Diamond and Pearl games yesterday...you can guess what we've been doing since then! LOL I'm playing Pearl and I named my trainer after my husband...and the friend is named Viggo hehehehe
post #120 of 292
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Originally Posted by Thystle View Post
How many of you read a long "novel" type book outloud to your kids? Like reading Harry Potter or something similar?.

I sooooo miss this. My dd stopped wanting me to read aloud to her as soon as she could read on her own--she says she comprehends better when she reads to herself, which I totally understand because I'm the same way, but still, I miss reading to her. I read to ds1 until maybe a year ago. Even when he could read, he enjoyed read alouds. It was fun to be able to share the books with him that way. We went through the HP series, Eragon, L'Engle's books....fun stuff.

Ds2 still likes picture books, which are fun too--we've done some slightly longer books, like Frog and Toad but he isn't ready for "real" chapter books yet.

I think I might have to become a librarian when I grow up...
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