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Originally Posted by Llyra
 I've decided to think of something really outrageous and over-the-top to do to really freak him out, and then he'll forget all about the babies.
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Originally Posted by Romana9+2
I completely agree about fresh air and naps, but I always just bring the stroller inside once the baby is asleep.
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Originally Posted by Llyra
Actually, I'm not really sure WHAT he thinks the danger is. DH went over last night to chat and kinda feel things out (because of the CPS thing) and my neighbor told him that I'm a crazy hippie freak who's warping his children. He talked about how I let DD1 dig in the dirt and play with bugs and go outside without shoes, and how he can't understand why she's not in some kind of organized activity so that she doesn't "waste all her time outside getting dirty". He mentioned the other day when DD1 was lifting her dress up outside and had on no panties (we're potty learning). He mentioned how my babies are never bundled up "properly"-- jeez, it's 68 degrees out there and they're in cotton sleepers and cotton swaddling. How bundled does he think they need to be? He thinks I'm going to "suffocate that baby" with my Mei Tai, and he thinks it's a "trashy" that I put cloth diapers out on the railing to sun out the stains. He also mentioned the garden being "a mess" and complained about how I dress and how I really ought to "get my hair done". So I think he just doesn't like us, and that my babies sleeping outside is just another "hippie" thing. He's really strait-laced and religious and generally a crank, I think, but DH says he doesn't think the guy would ever call CPS. I've decided to think of something really outrageous and over-the-top to do to really freak him out, and then he'll forget all about the babies.
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| But then again, I let my children play outside by themselves, and I leave them in the car while I put library books in the dropbox, and they only ride in Graco and Cosco carseats, so I obviously don't care whether they live or die, right ? |
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Originally Posted by Satori
You do that here and CPS takes your kids and you get 1 yr of court ordered parenting classes. There's also lots of posters every where about NEVER EVER leave a child in the car. To many children die that way around here and its a horrible way to die
If my kids are asleep I grab a book and stay in the car with them so I know for a fact what the temp is in the car and not what it feels like for 1 second. |
we spend 90% of everyday outside together!
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Originally Posted by ergonyer
That has happend, once, maybe twice, ever. In the past century there have only been like 50 attacks by black bears!! And thats including all the trash-acostmed bears, all the bears protecting their cubs, all the bears that kids provoke, everything. Black bears are scavengers (which is why, should you be attacked by a BLACK bear, you should *not* play dead, they'll eat ya
), which means that they eat dead things, and otherwise mostly plants (berries, nuts, etc). Bears are *FAR* more scared of people than people are of them unless they have become accostomed to eating your trash - in which case its the peoples dumb fault for leaving it out and thinking "oh how cute that little bear..."I'm sorry, but I took a whole class in college on black bear managment - and they just aren't the terrifying animals that many people make them out to be. Nor are they nearly as big as most people think. Theres just too much misinformation on bears out there, but the bottom line is, that unless provoked (you between trash, food, cubs, etc) they won't attack. |
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Originally Posted by Llyra
Actually, I'm not really sure WHAT he thinks the danger is. DH went over last night to chat and kinda feel things out (because of the CPS thing) and my neighbor told him that I'm a crazy hippie freak who's warping his children. He talked about how I let DD1 dig in the dirt and play with bugs and go outside without shoes, and how he can't understand why she's not in some kind of organized activity so that she doesn't "waste all her time outside getting dirty". He mentioned the other day when DD1 was lifting her dress up outside and had on no panties (we're potty learning). He mentioned how my babies are never bundled up "properly"-- jeez, it's 68 degrees out there and they're in cotton sleepers and cotton swaddling. How bundled does he think they need to be? He thinks I'm going to "suffocate that baby" with my Mei Tai, and he thinks it's a "trashy" that I put cloth diapers out on the railing to sun out the stains. He also mentioned the garden being "a mess" and complained about how I dress and how I really ought to "get my hair done". So I think he just doesn't like us, and that my babies sleeping outside is just another "hippie" thing. He's really strait-laced and religious and generally a crank, I think, but DH says he doesn't think the guy would ever call CPS. I've decided to think of something really outrageous and over-the-top to do to really freak him out, and then he'll forget all about the babies.
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How about tandem nursing outside topless? Just kidding, sometimes I'm evil. 
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Originally Posted by ergonyer
That has happend, once, maybe twice, ever. In the past century there have only been like 50 attacks by black bears!! And thats including all the trash-acostmed bears, all the bears protecting their cubs, all the bears that kids provoke, everything. Black bears are scavengers (which is why, should you be attacked by a BLACK bear, you should *not* play dead, they'll eat ya
), which means that they eat dead things, and otherwise mostly plants (berries, nuts, etc). Bears are *FAR* more scared of people than people are of them unless they have become accostomed to eating your trash - in which case its the peoples dumb fault for leaving it out and thinking "oh how cute that little bear..."I'm sorry, but I took a whole class in college on black bear managment - and they just aren't the terrifying animals that many people make them out to be. Nor are they nearly as big as most people think. Theres just too much misinformation on bears out there, but the bottom line is, that unless provoked (you between trash, food, cubs, etc) they won't attack. |
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Originally Posted by rzberrymom
Nothing strange about it--most of northern Europe does this.
It makes me so sad how fearful the U.S. is--we live in one of the safest societies in the world (despite what the media wants us to believe). It sounds like you're doing great! |
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Originally Posted by kalimay
Thanks for saying this. I have been feeling like this when I read some of the threads lately and it is nice to know I am not the only careless parent who is obviously not concerned for her child's safety.
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Originally Posted by Llyra
Mamas, I think you maybe misunderstood. When I say on the other side of a screen door, I mean literally that. My babies are not out of my sight at all; they are on one side of the door and I am on the other, right where I can see them. I sit there so that I can keep an eye on both my babies and DD1 at the same time; DD1 often won't go outside. She's 2 and busy with her own games and play and often I can't persuade her to go outside, and if I force the issue she throws a tantrum and then wakes both babies up and then where am I?
Frankly, I worry more about DD1 being left alone. She's mobile and active and curious and much much more likely to run into trouble than two newborns securely strapped into carseats and in a sturdy, braked stroller. See, now I'm getting all defensive. I mean geez I asked for your opinions and you gave them nicely and I shouldn't be all defensive. It's just I'm so thrilled to find some way to get the babies a nap without at least one and usually all of my kids crying, and now I guess I have to give it up. You're right about CPS; that's exactly the sort of thing my neighbor would do.... But it's not like I'm upstairs folding laundry while they're outside sleeping. I'm casual with my kids, but not stupid. |
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