question regarding mdc rules - Page 2

[knowerofnada]

Originally Posted by izobelle

Shall these women leave the forums for ivillage or babycenter?

That woman I was referring to actually did. Although she was NFL by all the other mighty standards, she was shunned in her time of need. She had nowhere else to turn BUT there. It was the saddest thing ever.

I realize that the natural living / counter-culture community needs a safe place, but is a place safe where there is no questioning? No discussion? No gray areas or continuua? How natural is that?

Excellent food for thought. I've said it many times before on here but the point is often lost -- Life is intrinsically (and naturally) one big shade of gray.

[intorainbowz]

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[knowerofnada]

Originally Posted by intorainbowz

I've seen threads closed where the people had to FF for whatever reason, and they were discussing how to prepare, what works best, etc.... nothing about FF promotion. I believe there was an air of sadness to that thread because they all wanted to breast feed and could not.

And, too, the few threads that do come up like this, it seems these people inevitably have been to lactation consultants, read the literature, already tried the advice of the wonderful, knowledgable members here, and are clearly turning to FF as a last resort. They expicitly explain this, and I agree, they always convey a deep sense of sadness, regret, and often shame. It is always ackowledged that BF is superior. After throughly explaining this, they might ask a question or two about FF. These are the threads we who are concerned are referring to.

FTR, the typical "Oh I tried to BF for a week and I just wasn't making enough milk so I switched" makes me as sick as the next person. I hear that all the time from people in my community and inside I'm always very skeptical. The situations described in these threads are clearly in a different ballgame.

Ok, I better let his go because I've said my peace....that one mama leaving for another mainstream board where she could discuss her needs openly without being censored just broke my hert and left a very strong impression on me. MDC could have been a much better fit for her than....that place.

[JessicaS]

Originally Posted by izobelle

I have never once seen ANYONE here argue for elective c-section, mandatory vaccination, CIO, or formula.

It has absolutely happened. I am sure many will agree that is was becoming a *serious* problem in many forums dealing with those issues when that particular clarification was added.


If you have a question about a particular thread you can pm a moderator or administrator and we can discuss it.

It is difficult to discuss such threads on general terms as it is impossible to see exactly what happened on a thread that caused it to be removed.

Sometimes, a thread goes downhill and it might be removed but people don't see all the reasons behind it being removed. We don't always leave extensive notes about it, as that can seem accusatory.

[EdnaMarie]

"It is difficult to discuss such threads on general terms as it is impossible to see exactly what happened on a thread that caused it to be removed."

That's true. I guess what many of us were surprised at was that while some threads having to do with involuntary FF and questioning some of the reasoning behind not vaccinating (which is not to recommend vaccination, much less mandatory vaccination) were removed, we never do see those which are outright recommending mandatory vaccination or formula feeding. Perhaps they are removed more quickly?

I take your word for it that these threads are occuring but I do support the following amendments:

1) The formula-feeding rule be amended to something like "elective formula feeding" or better, "formula feeding as anything but a worst-case scenario last resort".

2) In terms of threads, maybe a special sticky thread on low-supply issues, located in the breastfeeding challenges board, could allow short-term discussions of formula issues for the small but real percentage of women who need it (i.e. those whose milk never comes in, those for whom sufficient milk never came in, those who must, for their own survival, take medication that could seriously harm their newborn baby, and all of whom at the same time do not have access to breastmilk without having to spend so much that they would be forced into alternative housing... the last of which, considering the cost of breast milk is unfortunately a large percentage ).

A special disclaimer could be put in that thread as well, along with links to the threads on increasing supply, getting around thrush and food sensitivities, etc.

[alisonandjosh]

Originally Posted by mackysmama

This caught my eye. Perhaps it could be reworded to "elective formula feeding," just as it is "elective cesarean." Just a thought.

ditto!!!!!!!!!