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post #401 of 464
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Does this coincide with the night screaming/ear infection? If she has a dairy sensitivity, those are definitely ways it can manifest. Dairy also aggravates reflux in many cases. I hear what you're saying about not being able to pump enough, and I do think it's OK to be done for everyone's sanity. Do what you can, don't kill yourself. The trick is to find something she can take that won't upset her. I guess it would be weird to add hypoallergenic formula at this age, but you could try goat milk, since that only has one protein in common with cow milk. There's also recipies for fortifying rice milk. Might be worth trying out things other than cow milk in case that is what's been bugging her? Most people wouldn't have done everything you've already done for her. You're a good mama!
thank you. I guess I'm just really embarassed about giving her formula. I am scared to buy it in the store...it's fairly crunchy here so I think I would stick out. We just started the cow milk this week so I don't think it is related to her ear infections...

We've tried goat milk once but it is really expensive (even with Dh's co-op discount) and made her smell bad but I should really try it again.

How does one introduce cow milk properly? Amy? SSSarah?
post #402 of 464
We're sick too. Not sure what, thought it was teeth. Major snot, green eye boogers. Still in good humor though, and the fever has been gone for 4 days or so.

Fireant, I think you've done great. Not sure I would've been able to do the same.
post #403 of 464
Fireant, someone in my regional tribe suggested coconut milk or coconut water instead of cow's milk. That was in addition to breastmilk. It makes sense, because it's sweet like breastmilk. Even if you mixed it with cow's milk, it would probably make transition easier.
post #404 of 464
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Originally Posted by papayapetunia View Post
Fireant, someone in my regional tribe suggested coconut milk or coconut water instead of cow's milk. That was in addition to breastmilk. It makes sense, because it's sweet like breastmilk. Even if you mixed it with cow's milk, it would probably make transition easier.
That's a great idea! I wouldn't have thought of that...and it makes good use of all the extra coconut milk I bought for those popsicles! (yum by the way!)

Thank you! I will definitely try this.
post #405 of 464
By the way, tomato me all you want, but Talula loves the Teletubbies. We looked them up online to entertain her as a last resort one night when she was crying. She immediately stopped crying and started laughing and talking to them. I swear, they're magic.
post #406 of 464
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By the way, tomato me all you want, but Talula loves the Teletubbies. We looked them up online to entertain her as a last resort one night when she was crying. She immediately stopped crying and started laughing and talking to them. I swear, they're magic.
no tomatoing from here!

This is what got us through some rough times. Oh gosh, good times.
post #407 of 464
OMG, Talula's going to love that.
post #408 of 464
It's from this guy's site...where you can also join as his cat's myspace friend.
post #409 of 464
Hi ladies, just popping' in.

So how do you go about getting your dc to only take one nap? How did you decide that it would be good?

Fireant-
I can sympathize completely with you about pumping. It is so hard. I think when it starts to make you crazy and sad, it is a good time to stop. You have made it a long time. Don't be to hard on yourself! But it's hard... I know how you feel.
I had to stop at 6 mo. I am still really sensitive about the whole matter, but I just couldn't do it and take care of the twins by myself. They were in NICU and never got good at latching on so I pumped exclusivly. I know it's hard to buy the formula, but it's probably better than just cows milk. At least for a few more months. Let the people judge, they don't know your story! Forget about it! You need to do what is best for dc. Or have you tried a farmers market for goats milk it's probably no more expensive then formula?
I took my boys to a guy that does muscle testing. Turned out they did have a diary allergy and he cleared them of it. I noticed the difference right away. It was amazing not to mention a blessing, no more screaming babies!

To all the mamas who have sick little ones-
I went through a month where it was one thing after another... colds, stomach flu, horse voices, another cold. Then I found this elderberry syrup call Sambucol (for kids) and they got better so fast and haven't been sick again. Elderberry is a great immune booster plus it fights against a bunch of flu viruses. The book I found it in (prescription for herbal healing) compared it to a flu shot. It is also one of the best herbs for upper respiratory problems. I highly recommend it! Make sure to use the cooked syrup called Sambucol (it also has echinacea in it) because fresh elderberry can cause stomach problems. I found it at Vit. Cottage but I bet any natural food store would have it.

So my boys still don't have any teeth, but they are eating like champs thanks to your ladies advice (spice it up). They are now climbing up on to every thing. I went into the kitchen yesterday for a minute and when I came back C was on the coffee table. Oh boy! Here we go again. Just when I thought our living room/ giant playpen was safe.
post #410 of 464
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Originally Posted by mommitola View Post
I hear what you're saying about not being able to pump enough, and I do think it's OK to be done for everyone's sanity. Do what you can, don't kill yourself. The trick is to find something she can take that won't upset her.

Most people wouldn't have done everything you've already done for her. You're a good mama!
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You made it farther than I would have.

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Originally Posted by papayapetunia View Post
Fireant, someone in my regional tribe suggested coconut milk or coconut water instead of cow's milk. That was in addition to breastmilk. It makes sense, because it's sweet like breastmilk. Even if you mixed it with cow's milk, it would probably make transition easier.
Could you split it half and half?
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By the way, tomato me all you want, but Talula loves the Teletubbies. We looked them up online to entertain her as a last resort one night when she was crying. She immediately stopped crying and started laughing and talking to them. I swear, they're magic.
good for the 12 mo not the parents watching But whatever works.
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no tomatoing from here!

This is what got us through some rough times. Oh gosh, good times.
That cat amuses my 6 yo he would watch that and giggle all day.
post #411 of 464
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Originally Posted by fireant View Post
thank you. I guess I'm just really embarassed about giving her formula. I am scared to buy it in the store...it's fairly crunchy here so I think I would stick out. We just started the cow milk this week so I don't think it is related to her ear infections...
She may not need formula, was just throwing it out there in case the cow milk coincided with the night troubles. Although I just saw on another thread that suggesting a food sensitivity is "trendy." Oh well. We have been to trendy and back at our house. I am glad that the milk isn't the cause of the night issues, as that definitely gives you more options. But if you'd feel better giving formula over straight cow's milk, then don't let some stranger's opinion stop you! People don't know your history, so they can stuff it.

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By the way, tomato me all you want, but Talula loves the Teletubbies. We looked them up online to entertain her as a last resort one night when she was crying. She immediately stopped crying and started laughing and talking to them. I swear, they're magic.
Harper likes this site.

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So how do you go about getting your dc to only take one nap? How did you decide that it would be good?
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I took my boys to a guy that does muscle testing. Turned out they did have a diary allergy and he cleared them of it. I noticed the difference right away. It was amazing not to mention a blessing, no more screaming babies!
She is deciding for me on the nap thing. I have no say in this. She normally would be sleepy about 1.5-2 hours after getting up, and then again about 3 hours after getting up from nap 1. But now she acts a little drowsy in the morning, but when we attempt a nap, she will nurse and flail around and then pop up refreshed without sleeping. So we're just going with it. It depends on the day. I expect it will be several more weeks before she really finds her groove. I have heard they typically drop to 1 nap around the time walking starts.

What is muscle testing? I have heard it mentioned, but have no clue what it is. How did he clear them of an allergy?
post #412 of 464
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Originally Posted by twinalicious View Post
Hi ladies, just popping' in.

So how do you go about getting your dc to only take one nap? How did you decide that it would be good?
Baby decided here too.

My DD gave up one of her naps between 6 and 8 months. Then brought it back for a while, and we seem to be transitioning out of it again. Essentially, one nap gets shorter and shorter and the second nap (for us) gets longer. The first time, she went from sleeping 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the afternoon to 30 mins in the morning and 2.5 hours in the afternoon. When I had to fight her down for longer than she napped, I quit trying for that morning nap and bumped the afternoon one up an hour or so. Now she wants her nap about 4 hours after she wakes up (9am-ish), sleeps about 2.5 hours and goes to bed at 830-ish. And heaven help you if you try to get her to have another nap.

A fringe benefit to this, for us, is that she's so exhausted by the time she will go to bed, that all I have to do right now is lay her in her bed and sit in the chair next to her and she goes right to sleep. I tried that 2 weeks ago and she wailed.
post #413 of 464
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Originally Posted by Selesai View Post
Isn't it the truth, though, you get used to one "routine" and then the baby/babies decide to switch it up on you. I'm sorry Sam no longer likes mama milk. Have you been eating something different lately that might have changed its taste?
Either way, you've done so well by her.
regarding another baby. I take it B isn't interested? I know he was going to have a V...
How did his court case go? (you can PM me if you'd rather)
no dietary changes here. same old same old. she's just over it.

b's scared. he wants to be able to vacation as a family and not have to split up, and if we wait another year or two to have a baby, that pushes us back even further on being able to travel as a family.

he would love another baby, just doesn't want to plan for one if that makes sense. and wants to try and prevent one. if it's meant to be, it'll happen. that's my story and i'm stickin to it.

court was postponed. not sure 'til when. :

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Yup, zinc and titanium oxide, perfect!

Sarah, sorry you're having a tough time.
eh, we're ok. thanks though.

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We've been giving a little bit of cow milk to baby ant too.

I just can't keep up with her. pumping is going downhill. She can now drink 24 oz of bm during the night alone! There is no way for me to pump that amount and still be at school and work.

I feel like such a failure on the booby-juice thing. I want to give up. I know...I suck but I'm not sure I can keep pumping day and night.

When is it time to be done? sorry to rant


what a cutie! She has very expressive hands while dancing!!! Lil ant is more of a butt dancer than a hand dancer.
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Most people wouldn't have done everything you've already done for her. You're a good mama!
: you're amazing, ant. you totally rock.

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Originally Posted by fireant View Post
thank you. I guess I'm just really embarassed about giving her formula. I am scared to buy it in the store...it's fairly crunchy here so I think I would stick out. We just started the cow milk this week so I don't think it is related to her ear infections...

We've tried goat milk once but it is really expensive (even with Dh's co-op discount) and made her smell bad but I should really try it again.

How does one introduce cow milk properly? Amy? SSSarah?
say she drinks a 6oz bottle...the first three days, we did 5oz bm and 1oz cm. next 3 days 4oz and 2oz...next 3 3oz and 3oz, then 2 and 4, then 5 and 1, and then all cow's milk. that made her transition easier, and gave her tummy time to adjust to the different enzymes. good luck.
post #414 of 464
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Originally Posted by earthmama369 View Post
SIL's pumping every two hours almost around the clock and freezing milk for Jesse. Physically she's recovering really fast (ah, to be 14 again). Emotionally, it's really hard for her to be away from her baby at all, and MIL decided that she needed to start her tutoring again 4 days after giving birth and that she'd have to work more around MIL's work schedule to get up to the NICU to spend time with him. : That meant being away from Jesse for 18 hours yesterday. That's really hard for her. I've told her she can call me anytime and I'll come and bring her up there. I also have a bag of quality chocolate covered pretzels stashed to give to the nurses the next time I'm up there. I have no problems with bribes if they'll help ensure that SIL and her baby will be treated well.

Jesse was able to go to room air and a cannula for extra oxygen after a day and he seemed really happy to lose the throat tube. He still has a small tube going to his stomach so they can start getting him used to getting a little mama's milk and an IV in his foot, he's in a closed isolette, and he's under bili lights for a bit. But he's breathing well and is staying stable; the nurses are saying he's one of the strongest 33 weekers they've seen yet. They're working toward SIL being able to hold him more often and him trying to latch on and learn how to nurse soon. Maybe later this week?

No kids under 12 are allowed in the NICU, so I'm trying to juggle ways to go visit as we can without traumatizing Qualia and Sebastian. Bastian's gotten really clingy this past week -- probably because he just started walking(!!!) -- so it's hard. Being at SIL's labor and delivery has brought back a lot of emotion from Bastian's birth and NICU stay that I thought I'd laid to rest. It's making me a little crazy, but I'm hanging in there. Once things settle down a little, I'm carving out time for a good chocolate binge and cry fest.
Wow, I can't imagine tutoring would all that helpful 4 days after giving birth. Hope someone can work on MIL to get her to back off. Some people just power through a trauma, but that doesn't work for everyone. It sounds like you are doing everything you can to keep everything running smoothly and advocate for the baby and your SIL. I can't drive by the hospital without feeling triggered, so I can't imagine what you must be dealing with there. Take all the chocolate you need, mama. I'm thinking about your SIL and the baby.
post #415 of 464
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She is deciding for me on the nap thing. I have no say in this.
Oh, I feel you on this. Over the 3-day weekend? When Dan was home? Solid two-naps a day because Daddy put her down. Yesterday and today? Only baby versions of bad words. The nap thing is my "why I am a failure as a mother" issue.

And, so, this is my latest stab at being part of the conversation. I'll go back in my hole now and see what happens.
post #416 of 464
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The nap thing is my "why I am a failure as a mother" issue.
Shuh, my failure is because I drink starting at 9 am! You are doing fine! I don't really drink at 9 am. But sometimes I feel like it. It took us a while to get into the 2 nap routine, so I'm sure there will be hit and miss days with 1 nap. I don't think it's you at all. If daddies happen to get a streak of luck, they ride that for all it's worth.

Random:
Frozen green beans = good teethers, at least until she realizes they taste like vegetables and discards them.
post #417 of 464
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Oh, I feel you on this. Over the 3-day weekend? When Dan was home? Solid two-naps a day because Daddy put her down. Yesterday and today? Only baby versions of bad words. The nap thing is my "why I am a failure as a mother" issue.

And, so, this is my latest stab at being part of the conversation. I'll go back in my hole now and see what happens.
meh...you're not a failure by any means. is the baby alive? 'cause that's really your only job. from birth-12, don't kill the baby. from 12 and on, don't let the baby kill you.

"baby versions of bad words." : we have those too.

we don't really have a nap routine. some days she needs three, some days only one. i just watch her signals and lay her down when she's acting tired. if she really wants to sleep, she does. if not, she stands up and yells 'til i come get her. it makes for a lot of up and down the stairs for me, lugging a 20something # toddler, but it works. but i know i can't say much, as sleep has been, for the most part, effortless in this house, for all the kids.

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Shuh, my failure is because I drink starting at 9 am! You are doing fine! I don't really drink at 9 am. But sometimes I feel like it. It took us a while to get into the 2 nap routine, so I'm sure there will be hit and miss days with 1 nap. I don't think it's you at all. If daddies happen to get a streak of luck, they ride that for all it's worth.

Random:
Frozen green beans = good teethers, at least until she realizes they taste like vegetables and discards them.
s2 loves veggies, and has recently discovered the pure joy that is fresh golden ripe pineapple.




i got my blood test done today for my IUD insertion tomorrow. anybody wanna take bets on whether or not i'm pg? : i kill me.
post #418 of 464
Helen, I will admit without too much chagrin that, on Memorial Day when it was 10am and a beer sounded good... what the hell -- I had that beer at 10am. I'm a veteran. I can imbibe at 10am on Memorial Day if I want to ;-)

Thanks for the reassurances. Suddenly getting that nasty panicky feeling when you think that your beautiful, healthy, active child isn't doing all the things they "should" be doing.
post #419 of 464
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We've been giving a little bit of cow milk to baby ant too.

I just can't keep up with her. pumping is going downhill. She can now drink 24 oz of bm during the night alone! There is no way for me to pump that amount and still be at school and work.

I feel like such a failure on the booby-juice thing. I want to give up. I know...I suck but I'm not sure I can keep pumping day and night.

When is it time to be done? sorry to rant

what a cutie! She has very expressive hands while dancing!!! Lil ant is more of a butt dancer than a hand dancer.
I could have written your post. I was hoping to be able to up my supply a little once school was out, but it seems that Lil' Miss Ev has decided that she's done. I don't get a thing when I pump and she's lost all interest in nursing. I still attempt first thing in the morning and again at night, but she's seriously on for maybe 30 seconds. I guess we're done. Again, I say, she can't be my last baby. It went by way too fast.
Oh, she's eating everything in sight, so she's getting lots of water and we're still giving formula during the day at the baby sitters.

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Harper danced along with Lu! So cute. Lu really has the hand motions going on.

Some teeth cut through and stuff. Like 3 in a big row on the bottom right side. I don't even know which ones those are. WTH? Maybe it's one giant fang?

Sunscreen: http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/wor...uery=sunscreen, that is the Environmental Working Group's site to make you never want to put anything on your body again. It looks like California Baby stuff scores the safest. That Kabana stuff looks good too. There's another site called something like safecosmetics.org, but I haven't looked up sunscreen on there yet. We tried Burt's Bees, and it smelled so strongly that we all felt ill.

Thanks for the photo compliments. Ryan has been picking more of her summer clothes. He said it was his turn. Fair enough. I usually put her in a dress over pants, but he likes shorts and tops.

She just ripped a page out of a book and turned around and said "booshk?" That's her word for book. Well, it WAS a book until you remodeled!

Oh, no morning nap. It's been about 50/50 the last week. I think she is ready to go to one. I tried today since she was acting tired, but all she wants to do is lie down, and then she reanimates and is good for hours more. This means I get less work done, that's fer sure.
Um, yeah, I just found that site and now I just wanna use water all the time. It's scary!

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no tomatoing from here!

This is what got us through some rough times. Oh gosh, good times.
Caleb would LOVE that! I will have to show him tomorrow! Evie will be into it too, she just likes to rip the screen off the laptop, so I'm a little leary.

I only have 2 more weeks of school left. I can not wait until I'm home all the time with the kiddos. Let the summer fun begin.

The search for a baby sitter is going somewhere too. I have a few names to call, and somebody is getting back to me tomorrow about next year. Here's hoping. She's right behind the school where I'll be, so I won't be far at all.
post #420 of 464
One nap a day seems to have made sleeping better at night. of course now shes sleeping 9-9 or so... with waking every 2-3 hours for milks. and napping at about 2-4 or so. I can't complain. Well i could but that would be silly.

SOmeone on our local board told me to give ruby young coconut WATER as a sub for BM... we dont' need to i was jus thoping to ditch the pump at work. but I will soon. More on that later.

Sarah if you're pregnant, I'm going to buy a lottery ticket.
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