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post #1 of 16
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We picked dh up from the airport last night. He had been out of town on a client meeting. The last time he was with this particular client (last October), he had the following conversation:

dh (to client who had had a baby in the past year): How is your baby doing?
client: She finally takes about 7 ounces in her bottle and is just now sleeping through the night.
dh: Oh? How old is she?
client: 7 months. Man, we thought she would never start sleeping through the night.
dh: Well, 7 months is still really young. Our dd just recently cut down to only waking a couple of times a night.
client: Look, I don't know what serious problem your kid has, but that would be a major clue to me to get in and get some help. How old is she?
dh: She's only two. My wife has the philosophy that if the kids wake up and need to nurse, she is going to nurse them. I'm so glad she is such an attentive and caring mother.
client: Nurse???? She still nurses?????!!
dh: of course, she's only two. (pager goes off) Oh, that's me. I have to go.

This trip, it was brought up that we are having a third child.

client: That is why I'm getting snipped after the second. No way am I going to have a mistake. No, you won't catch me in that predicament.

Apparently he went on like that for about 5 minutes.

dh: The baby was not a mistake.
client: what? you mean you planned it?
dh: yes. all of our children have been planned.
client: why? how many are you going to have?
dh: well, we've talked about having six, but realistically we will probably have four. we are taking it one at a time to see how our family feels. Besides (said half-jokingly), we have big car seats and our van can only hold 4 of them.
client: are you Catholic or do you just really like your kids or something?
dh: no, we're not Catholic. We enjoy our children and want a good sized family.

Sometimes I just feel like screaming! Yes, we have a boy and a girl already! Yes we planned to have a third! Is it really anyone else's business?
post #2 of 16
Wow. Just, wow.

It's amazing how people think everyone has to do things the same way, and that your kids have a "problem" if they don't conform to their idea of normal.

And the "do you really like kids" thing makes me scratch my head -- do people have only one or two kids because they don't really like them?
post #3 of 16
that makes my skin crawl. imagine how he talks to his children!
post #4 of 16
People can be pretty ignorant. My third baby was a suprise (I like to refer to him as the bonus favor from my friend's out-of-town wedding where he was conceived). We get some rude comments from the general public because he and his older sister are only 11 months apart. Dh and I are currently having "the talk" about whether or not to try for one more. So many other people assume we must be finished with three that I found myself falling into the trap briefly.
post #5 of 16
UN-BELIEVABLE! I'm constantly shocked at the lack of respect with which people speak to each other!
So I'm assuming that if he were given a choice, he would have NO children? Because it sounds like they are a burden to him anyway. His poor wife. I'll bet she gets NO help from him at all.
He sounds like a real crass piece of work.:

ETA- Woopsie, I thought I was reading this in TAO. Sorry for butting in.
post #6 of 16
Oh dear. This reminds me that I'll have to spend some time working with my own DH to prepare him for the inevitable "dude, your life is over" comments he'll be getting from lesser men. I swim against the current just fine but my guy is a really affable fellow and I think he would be horrified and offended at what his reaction might be to anyone lobbing this kind of conversation at him.

I'm sorry your DH had to deal with such a nimrod.
post #7 of 16
I think its great that your DH was confident enough to explain & educate that doofus about NORMAL child sleeping & eating. 2 years old is NOT too old to still be nursing... just ask my 2-year old! And she JUST RECENTLY started sleeping through the night - on her OWN timetable. Not stuffed with formula, not trained by screaming it out on her own because we're "too busy" to tend to her at night. I really feel for some of the poor babies out there.

As for how many children you have... it's NO ONE'S business but yours & DH's, and I think PP said it well, that does only having 1 or 2 mean you don't really like children? The assumptions that people make - and just plain rudeness that people feel like they can express when talking about children, amazes me.
post #8 of 16
I've run into similar (although not as blatant!) comments and my son hasn't even been born, yet! People asking me if we're done now that we have a boy and a girl.... It's really bizarre that the guy suggested there was something seriously wrong w/a 2 year old that still wakes at night (nursing issue aside). *I* still wake at night and I'm 26. I think it's marginally creepy when a person *doesn't* wake AT ALL at night. That's when I start wondering if maybe there's something wrong... like sleep apnea.

Speaking of kids sleeping through the night... My MIL's been driving me nuts b/c my SIL just had a baby and my MIL kept saying how great it was that the baby'd sleep for a 5 hour stretch when she was only a week old and NURSING. "She's such a good baby" : I didn't know how to break it to her that maybe that was why the baby wasn't gaining weight the way the doctor wanted her to (the baby was actually losing a LOT of weight). Of course my daughter's not what my MIL thinks of as a "good baby" because she likes to be held, she's still nursing (at 16 months, of course she's still nursing!), and she still wakes a few times at night. That's not to mention how we're "bad parents" (in my MIL's opinion) because my daughter still sleeps in our bed......
post #9 of 16
not inyour DDC but had to add

let's all just be GLAD the man is not having any more babies

A
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Juvysen View Post
My MIL's been driving me nuts b/c my SIL just had a baby and my MIL kept saying how great it was that the baby'd sleep for a 5 hour stretch when she was only a week old and NURSING. "She's such a good baby" : I didn't know how to break it to her that maybe that was why the baby wasn't gaining weight the way the doctor wanted her to (the baby was actually losing a LOT of weight).
Gosh, that's so disturbing to me! Newborns need to nurse every 2 - 3 hours AROUND THE CLOCK... and if her baby isn't awake, she needs to WAKE HER to nurse. What's SO sad, is that's setting her up for a downward spiral. Baby will lose weight. At the same time, her supply will drop because she's not nursing enough, and then she'll be told to supplement... which will lead to even more of a decline in milk production. So, so, sad.

Parenting isn't convenient. And what the heck is a "good baby"? Is there such thing as a "bad baby"? :
post #11 of 16
Holy Comoli! That's crazy! I've luckily never encountered anyone quite so openly rude - I don't know how your dh kept his cool. I guess business is business, right?

I get comments from people because we're having our 3rd in just under 4 years - but we live in the Southern U.S. where larger families aren't THAT unusual.

The running joke is that my dh has a thing for pregnant women so he's got to keep me knocked up
post #12 of 16
What a....interesting person (trying not to violate the UA !) But, kudos to your dh for handling it so well! I really like when people take the "Of course we do that because that's what's normal," tact with people who are showing their ignorance.

People seem to feel that, unlike other issues (religion, politics, etc.) that parenting and family size are perfectly okay to comment on. My DH and I come from families of 11 and 6, respectively, so we dealt with those comments a lot. In fact, if you have less than four kids, I'm more apt to wonder why you're having a small family ! But, I wouldn't ever comment on it! How many kids people choose to have is a highly personal matter!
post #13 of 16
GEEZ What the heck is wrong with some ppl. We really try to just live and let live so I can not imagine saying that to anyone, not to mention that we plan to co-sleep, BF(when baby wants and as often and for how long), Baby Carry, etc...
I have had ppl say things like "Oh, you are going to cloth diaper? Well you will find out that you do not want to soon enough!" to me.. I just had to laugh...

~Steph
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by StephNelson View Post
GEEZ What the heck is wrong with some ppl. We really try to just live and let live so I can not imagine saying that to anyone, not to mention that we plan to co-sleep, BF(when baby wants and as often and for how long), Baby Carry, etc...
I have had ppl say things like "Oh, you are going to cloth diaper? Well you will find out that you do not want to soon enough!" to me.. I just had to laugh...

~Steph
LOL... I switched to CDing because I like it BETTER... people just think about the old pins and plastic pants and can't imagine anyone liking that. CDing's come such a long way!
post #15 of 16
It is amazing what people will say ...

This is #4 for us and the eldest will have just turned 5 - people look at us like we are off the wall especially given we both work full time and it definitely isn't the 'norm' to have sooooo many kids. It doesn't help that I am 35 and my husband has 15 years on me - most of his friends' kids are going to college not having new little ones. [Many of the men will admit, though, that they wish they had another one or two!]

Weird though - one guy at daycare made some suggestion about 'you think you would have figured it out after three' - but then his wife came up to me last week and said that she was envious of our large family and wished she could handle more.

Ann
post #16 of 16
It's funny...I actually get sort of the opposite response...

This is baby number two for us, and while we may "someday" think about a third, we're pretty happy with two. BUT when people find out that this babe is a girl just like her big sister they get all sympathetic and almost apologetic. They say things like "gee, too bad...I bet you really wanted a boy!" or "well, maybe you can try again in a year or two". Things like that.

My DH gets lots of odd looks when he tells people he's thrilled to have another girl...that he LIKES girls, and doesn't see why he "needs" to have a son in order to do "guy things". He and dd go camping and hiking and fishing and climb trees (well, the extent a 2yo can do those things anyway!) and they both have a blast. He actually gets pretty annoyed at people who assume we'll have another just so we can "get" a boy.

It really is amazing how crazy some people can be about family dynamics and size and orientation and...well...things that are simply none of their business!
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