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post #1 of 24
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I've put off going in to see them for another three weeks (I will be 14 weeks along then) but wish I could hear the heartbeat for the first time before then. She didn't have any early appointments and those she did have before June 1st were during school pick up or my VERY important nap time.

I am annoyed right now and I didn't really WANT to go in any time soon except for the heartbeat as there's really nothing to do there but see if my BP is still up and sit there miserable in my sickness while they ignore the word Hyperemesis.

I'll be glad when we get past this sickness. I think they just have a block when it comes to Hyperemesis!! I wonder if it's because they really have no cure and no help to give at all, so they want to ignore the issue.

My bloodwork all came back beautifully (she seemed surprised) so there's no medical reason for my extreme sickness.

Except Hyperemesis. I want to smack them upside the head and say, "IT'S REAL. I'VE HAD IT BEFORE. I HAVE IT NOW."

In the meantime, as usual, she will contact her partner and see if she recommends anything else. But honestly I am not up for the recommendations!

I haven't told her I am using the Unisom and B6 they didn't want me to use. It's the only thing that has made a dent in the issues.

I am hoping once I am past the Hyperemesis issue, things will work themselves out again and I will be happy with my midwives again. I don't know why this is playing out this way, but I don't have the energy to dig deeper.

Sometimes I wish I had just gone with an OB and taken whjat was handed because I can keep my expectations low. *sigh*
post #2 of 24
No advice, just
post #3 of 24
Quote:
metimes I wish I had just gone with an OB and taken whjat was handed because I can keep my expectations low. *sigh*
this is what we are doing, i really -- 20/20 hindsight -- feel i set myself up to fail with Theo's birth ... (doula, CNM, indepant not OB pratice) ....

HUGS momma -- i hate it when HCP won't listen to ME and want to re-invent the wheel when i know what is wrong.

AImee
post #4 of 24
Oh Gina, I'm so sorry you have to go through this. Are you completely set on staying with this practice? Or are you considering other options?

Huge hugs!
post #5 of 24
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My other options are:

UC --- which I won't do completely alone. I would rather have someone here.

Another area lay midwife --- they have high transfer rates, so why bother?

CNM or OB in the hospital --- I am pretty sure I will end up labeled high risk and have another awful hospital experience and possibly c-section.


So I am hanging on for a bit to see if things clear up and go well later. I am hoping to have a pretty low intervention birth with midwives just sorta standing by, so it may all work out. No one is perfect and I may just be expecting too much.

It's easy to think the world is awful when you have Hyperemesis. It's easy to get lost in all the sickies and I just don't have the energy to delve into what's going on, so it's more of my fault right now.
post #6 of 24
Oh, I am so sorry. I hope that you are able to get some relief soon.
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by GinaRae View Post
It's easy to think the world is awful when you have Hyperemesis. It's easy to get lost in all the sickies and I just don't have the energy to delve into what's going on, so it's more of my fault right now.
Gina, I know how you feel. I wouldn't say it's your fault, but I would say that you deserve the benefit of the doubt given how sick you are. It's hard to be anything but miserable with HG. I am so sick of it I just cry sometimes. (((HUGS))) to you. Hang in there, mama!
post #8 of 24
Gina,

I think you should push it. That's what I had to do with my last pregnancy. Are you monitoring your urine and your weight? Keeping a log of sickies and eating, etc? I started just showing up at the office when I felt my worst.

I know what you mean...I hate the world right now too...but that's because HG is so demoralizing and miserable. Your midwives must support you. You need help in nipping this in the bud right now.

My mw is checking in with phone calls and e-mails, etc. Yours should be doing the same, Mama. If they don't get it, have dh print out some articles about HG from MDC, etc, and pass them along. Get them a couple of books about it. If they are not familiar then they need to be doing research and consulting with their peers to get more information.

If you're too wiped out, then dh needs to step up and advocate for you. It sucks, but sometimes that's what it takes.

Let me know if you need resources online.
post #9 of 24
No advice here either, just wanted to offer more s.
post #10 of 24
I'm really surprised they haven't offered Zofran! That's the first thing my midwife did when I mentioned I was having morning sickness and was losing weight due to it...
post #11 of 24
GinaRae, any sort of update for us? How are you feeling? I hope you have found some relief and talked to your midwife again.
post #12 of 24
Gina, I was hyperemic with my first two pregnancies the entire time. I even had experimental drugs with the 2nd as well as a pump 24/7. I was treated like every other mom. I was transfered out of the birth center with my first due to the Hyperemisis though...that really SUCKED!!!!

There are controversial herbs that you can take. I did ALOT of research over this herb especially when my doc told me that it would be safer than the experimental drugs I took while pregnant with my daughter. So, that really put some things into perspective for me. I have used it for this pregnancy & I FIRMLY believe it's what has kept me from going full hyperemic.

There is also a group online for support & information. it's www.helpher.org I believe. And, it's not in your head & you're not making yourself sick. You're Hyperemic & I believe you! No one believed me either with my first child. My midwife believed me & she also had it when she was having her babies 25-30 years ago.

Good luck!
Honey
post #13 of 24
Just wanted to add some hugs too. Sorry you are going through this.

post #14 of 24
Gina, I need to hijack your thread. Sorry!:

Honey, what herbs are you taking? I've tried everything and nothing works for me... Zofran worked, but I want to avoid it this time if I can. I'm being encouraged to try a "mj" tincture...but our stupid laws are so far behind. Our state does not yet allow for medical use. Plus, dh is an officer in the cg...so, it's NOT going to happen.

I was just curious if this is what you are using and if you would mind sharing. I've heard about it getting dozens of women out of the hospital...which is where I'm nearly headed. I've lost 20 lbs.
post #15 of 24
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I'm really surprised they haven't offered Zofran! That's the first thing my midwife did when I mentioned I was having morning sickness and was losing weight due to it...
They won't offer that, but also the hubster and I agree that we won't take it. Besides the constipation side effects of Zofran, I just don;t trust it yet. I am using Unisom though (been around longer).
post #16 of 24
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This time last week the midwife told me to try Emergen-C in my water to see if it helps me stay hydrated and maybe throw up less. Anyone try that?

I still haven't bought any. I wonder if the midwives wonder if I REALLY need help when I don't always take their recommendations. But I am telling you, I have just barely enough energy to drop off and pick up the kids from school (twice a day since my kindergartener is half day). An extra trip to Trader Joes just doesn't happen.

Hubby is pretty whoppin' busy and I keep meaning to ask HIM to pick it up. But something else always needs to be done. Like today I just called him to get home on time to take our son to a special awards reception TONIGHT. They just called me to tell me he's an essay finalist. He put a lot of work into that essay and was really hoping to win, so this is important to him.

But man, talk about last minute. It's right when I am really much sicker in the evening (though this whole day is a whopper so far), so I won't be able to go and instead will have to deal with picking my son up from baseball and getting him to focus on getting fed and to bed. *sigh*
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by GinaRae View Post
This time last week the midwife told me to try Emergen-C in my water to see if it helps me stay hydrated and maybe throw up less. Anyone try that?
no, but my midwife suggested the same thing. it's the b vits in there, i think.
post #18 of 24
Gina,

That's so crazy that they called you today about the award! Good grief!!

Could you order some emergen-c online? I've also been sipping grape "recharge" from the organic section of the grocery store. It has juice and sea salt in it. And coke...lots and lots of coke... Bleh.

I just wanted to give you a great big giant

We all have to make informed decisions on our own...no matter what our hcp's or friends/family say. You're doing the best you can, Mama. That's enough.
post #19 of 24
The herb I'm taking & haven't had to take in almost 2 weeks!!!! is mj. I bought some from a friend after doing tons of research on it. It's actually kinda funny cause I'm 29 & never did anything besides get drunk about 5 times in my life & at 29 I use it. I give myself a giggle over that one.

But, seriously...I too started losing weight, started feeling that pull to the 'dark side'...I started to recognize the terraine of Hyperemic ville & I knew I couldn't go that way. The doctor I spoke with said a cigarette a day was his recommendation (he also said he'd deny it if ever asked/approached), but I would just put a pinch & take two puffs. I tried eating it because I was worried about lung damage but it took it 1.5 hours to take effect & I think it's more potent that way because I was a bit loopy. My husband said he could notice a definite change in my non existant happy level to smiles & a few giggles. So, just a puff is good. I also spoke with our family doctor who is very much aware of my anti-drug (includes prescription & over the counter) beliefs & shared TONS of studies done to reassure me on visiting my brothers home who uses it for recreation. Apparently...it's pretty safe, doesnt' cause the lung problems that are threatened with though it does have a high case of throat issues like soreness-really, really sore (forget the name) for high usage. He also reassured me about the baby. His words were standing where you're getting some car exhaust or pumping gas causes more damage than the brief amount you may breathe in at your brothers home. It'd be like getting a puff or two & that won't cause damage.

Now, while I do disagree that it won't cause damage...there comes a time where it's the benefits over the risks. Hyperemisis is definitly such a time. Having a bad day...or even just vomiting 1 or 2 times?...not worth it.

Considering they know these drugs they give us cause problems, birth defects, etc...I say...a puff or two. I don't think a whole cig is necessary especially if you 'catch' it in time. I started to notice if I would stop tryng to be 'brave' or wait it out I could take a puff & while I'd be nauseous & miserable...I wouldn't throw up. It'd also let me eat something & keep it down for an hour or so. My midwives told me that an hour means I'm getting some nutrition. I don't know if they're aware that my tea is mj, but I don't want to get them in trouble & I've done plenty of research on it....& it's my decision to make.

Some of the 'risk' factors is that there is an increased chance of having a hyperactive child. Another research group debunks that opinion & they say it's not hyperactive it's the fact that mj encourages the development of thinking in a different way since more synapsis are builit in the brain...so contray to belief & my in laws intelligence levels...it doesn't kill brain cells!

There is a definite abuse factor...everything in moderation. I do have links if anyone is interested & there are even a few stories on Mothering about usage. In my teens I would NEVER have thought of using MJ...but...when times change, you start thinking for yourself, doing your own research...your opinions can change depending on everything.

While I have 'normal' nausea now...at 16 weeks...when does it go away & I do have a bad time of day (but it's getting better) I feel like right now...I'm eating, I haven't checked my weight...I need to do that...& I'm feeling better I don't think I need it & while I have access if I do have a bad day/start to slide back down I know where to get it.

That's the other thing too...do your best to get organic. Even something grown with miracle gro is better than from someone you don't know. People told me you pay extra for anything that's laced/has something added...but I'm not too trusting of someone I don't know. Also, if it doesn't smell like you've hit a skunk...pass on it. It's not good & will only mean that you'll have to puff a bunch to get nausea relief & I think that's just raising your chances of something going wrong...& you don't want it to look all dried out/brown. It should look bright green, keep it in a glass jar/air tight container & in a dark place. I actually bought some books over it from our local book store....now that was a picture! They knew I was a doula & homeschooler & just looked at me. I bet they were wondering where they could sign up for that class! I learned about the not to dos based on getting some horrible stuff & my friend who grew up with it in the home educating me on what to look for & how to puff. I'd only tried a cigarette in 6th grade which knocked me out...yep...I'm allergic! so...I was your very good girl who went to church, didn't rebel & was the joke of family(brother) & friends at me puffing.

I've come to the mind that it's an herb also...it like anything else can be abused but when used for its rightful use...it's a benefit to us.

My only complaint is I felt very alone when I had to use it. My husband has never used it either & he'd leave me while I did it. That (along with growing up propaganda) gave me conflicted feelings at time. But, then again...being on bedrest, having a nurse sticking a needle in my hip, butt or thigh, having to field questions for the rare times when I went somewhere of what was the black box hanging off my waist made me feel very alone when others were around me. At least with my herb I can sit in the living room with the kids, play a game, sit outside in the sunshine & eat a meal. We've even ate out...It's normally thrown up an hour or so later, but...hey...in the words of my midwives I absorbed some nutrients.

If you have any more questions you're welcome to call me if you're too worried about asking them here or email me. Oh...and it's totally frowned upon here too. The way I see it...with it...I'm not hyperemic or worrying I'm losing my baby like I did with my daughter or signing rights away that I won't sue some company...or my husband signing rights away that he won't sue if I or my duaghter die. When you're stuck between a rock & a hard place & someone says...this has a tiny possibility of keeping you pregnant so she can be born...you take it...then when doctors & research shows way better results...you take it.

Oh...they've started taking the main thing out of mj that prevents nausea & developed it into a pill for chemo patients. They're aware it works, but insurance won't cover it for hyperemic pregnant women. I checked into it BIG time. It's sad you have to be forced to go against 'the grain' because they won't give you the approved version.

Honey
post #20 of 24
Honey,

Thank you for your honesty. I'm soo glad it's working for you. I've come to the same conclusions in my own research. If dh wasnt' in the cg, I would be trying it. If I end up needed to be hospitalized and separated from my children, we may make a different decision. Deciding not to use the mj tincture is what compelled us to purchase a thousand dollar acupuncture treatment package...we figured that was much cheaper than legal fees and dh losing his commission! :

Big, big
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