Originally Posted by WNB
it's not reasonable to describe it in terms of something you would be paying for with this week's pay check (meaning, "current" income, rather than savings).
Of course. Not sure that anything I said is in conflict with this. the REASON most people need savings is because they can't afford to write a check for the tuition out of their paycheck. That's kind of the point of the thread, and I was just pointing out that you'd need to be making literally HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars a year (honestly.... $500K - $750K and up) for two kids in college not to hurt BAD.
|My experience working in the admissions office at MIT (you know, the other, better Harvard ) was that a lot of smart caring people worked incredibly hard to create a diverse, creative, talented and deserving student body.
MIT is - to a degree - a totally different ballgame. It is a technology focused / trade focused school, not an elite liberal arts college or Ivy League university. It, like Carnegie Mellon, Cal Tech, London School of Economics, gosh even RISD and the like, a lot more focused on skill sets and have historically been less concerned with courting the upper class as opposed to just going after brainiacs no matter where they come from or look like. I will say, however, that there is inherent bias in favoring a perfect SAT Math score or 5's on AP Calc exams etc.... as these tests themselves are biased against lower income and racial diversity but that is a whole other thread.
My experience working HEAVILY with the admissions offices at elite colleges and universities is that either a.) they CARE about diversity but the administration undermines it or doesn't put their money where their mouths are with actually changing how recruiting happens and admissions factors are weighted... or b.) they are totally and completely elitist ___s who are blind to their own racism and classism.
I also freely admit and perhaps should have said this, that IT/tech focused schools (I have specifically recruited from MIT, CMU, VA Tech, and WPI and the IT/tech programs at other universities & colleges) tend to be very egalitarian compared to the others, especially nowadays, where many of the great developers / architects / IT program managers are Indian and southeast Asian - many by birth - and I have also seen a lot of Russians in particular and immigrants from Eastern European countries. I still think there is tremendous work to do to bring more women into these positions and the deck still seems to be stacked against seeing more black, hispanic, and Native Americans -- in other words, when you peel back a few layers, it often turns out that the "diversity" numbers come from highly educated Indian and Southeast Asian and Russian YOUNG MEN, which is great, but leaves a lot of room for improvement in the other areas I mentioned.