Originally Posted by pookel
Group work, for me, worked out to this:
Pookel does all the work.
In exchange, the other three members of the group stop harassing Pookel about being a "nerd" for a week or two.
Amazingly, in the workplace, group work is more like this:
Pookel says, "here, I'll take this chunk of work that I happen to be talented at." Coworker says, "great, why don't I do this part, since that's what I'm better at." Coworker 2 says, "why don't you guys let me know what you need help on, since you're better at this stuff."
I never did see that kind of dynamic in a public school setting.
Pookel, are you living my life?
I did all the work in every single "group" work project I have ever been involved in, from gr.1 through university. Teachers never did a thing about it, whether I complained, or they noticed on their own. And the others in the group got whatever grade I'd earned for them, work or no work. By high school I would just take the work and walk away with it and turn it in when I was done. No one cared, not the teachers, or the other students (unless I didn't get them a good grade, then I'd hear all about it
Now I'm a manager and I have to hire and fire staff. Not helping out with the group work is the biggest single complaint any of my staff have about other employees, and it's pretty well guaranteed to get you fired. Being a good student (lots of my staff are in high school or college) has nothing to do with how good they will be at work. I never bother to look at their education level on their resumes, except to get an idea of how old they are, and I don't know any other hiring manager who cares about grades or diplomas, only if you have special certifications and skill training.
I still hear parents and teachers say to kids "You have to do well in school to get a good job" and I want to stop them and say "No, to get a good job, you need to read, write, learn to speak in public, do volunteer work, take any job you are offered, start at the bottom, try to impress everyone you meet at work, network all the time, and try to figure out what you enjoy doing, so you don't waste everyone's time by doing a job you hate."
Oh, and I got to use the bunsen burners in high school too. They weren't nearly as exciting as I thought they would be