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post #241 of 253
I want to homeschool so badly and if there is a way for me to work and do it, I will.

Odd coming from a future teacher. Well, then we'll be two teachers

Why become a teacher if I dislike public schools?

To make change, to give public school children a better chance.
post #242 of 253
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Originally Posted by polihaupt View Post
See, what is the point of sending the kids to school if they are going to have a lot, if not all the material taught to them AGAIN at home?
Not true. 90%+ of material they DO learn in school and if we are talking about an average student, then help from parents or tutors is not required. However, as I said above, a student who does poorly in one class or another might need some extra help in which case parents or tutors step in. Also, if a child is not planning to go to university, then there is no need to get A+ in that class. A simple passing grade would be enough (in which case no tutor or help would be required).

Also, school homework is strictly for students and schools do not expect parents to help out with same.

Anyway, that's my last post about the schools in my home country. It is completely off topic here.

Thank you all for your inputs. I do appreciate it.

I will not be visiting this forum in the near future.

M_of_M
post #243 of 253
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Originally Posted by sha_lyn View Post
mammacanary.... your post reminds me of a boy I grew up with. He had terrible asthma.
His mother bought an artificial Xmas tree for his classroom teacher to use ach yr. Once we got up to 5th grade and changed rooms for osme classes she would buy one for each classroom. One teacher refused, saying it wasn't Xmas without a real tree. My friend ended up spending that class time in the library for 3 weeks. I also remember him getting really sick when they were painting the hallways one time.
That sounds familiar. The attitude I got in school was that people (students and teachers) were not even willing to try and make compromises. If something was bothering me they didnt even try to change it. They just gave me dirty looks when I coughed and gasped for breath. :

Not Christmas without a real Christmas tree? She was a real sweetheart. What about it's not christmas unless we are considerate of the fellow humans around us. I guess her idea of christmas was excluding a little boy from his class during the holidays. That is so sad.
post #244 of 253
Poor kid. : Schools can be so horrible - and so many parents want to turn a blind eye to it. It makes me ill.
post #245 of 253
I'm really tired and I've worked really hard at home today so maybe I shouldn't post right now. I'd be happy to delete this if a mod wants me to. I just wanted to gently say that I'm uncomfortable with the "we" and "us" talk and basically being spoken for in some of the posts. I'm not going to name anyone. I just feel as though if someone has an issue with something that M of M has said, they should say, "I" and speak for themselves. Please don't speak for me, especially if you are not a homeschooler. Again, I realize I'm being blunt here but I'm saying this in the kindest way I know how. I just feel as though we are not a homogenous group or clique and I don't want to be spoken for. Thank you.
post #246 of 253
It's been so long that I don't remember specifics, but I know he was often the brunt of anger from the kids because "they" felt like he caused a lot of problems because of the asthma. I'm certain the other kids got the attitude from home
post #247 of 253
Didn't realize I had to qualify what we means
We= me and my husband
or
We= our family

It certainly does not mean me and someone I do not know
post #248 of 253
I've been reading this thread the last few days. So much has been said that I have felt I had very little to actually add. I did want to chime in on the subject of former teacher's having to deschool themselves. I am a former public school teacher (elementary and college level). My dh is still currently a public school teacher (high school). We decided when ds#1 (almost 6) was a little over a year to homeschool. It has been a long road, though, to deschool ourselves. I have had to shed so much of what I thought I knew about learning. The preparation we did in our teaching credential year (in California, you don't major in Education; you have a regular major in your field of choice and then continue to a fifth year for your credential) is ridiculous - honestly, not only for homeschooling, but actually for the classroom as well. The way you run the classroom really doesn't have much to do with fascilitating learning; it is about maintaining order. It is nothing like actually helping your children learn and grow in your own house. Dh is finding he has more and more philosophical conflicts between his beliefs on learning and education and what he's expected to believe and do in his classroom. We have both decided that we can't stand the public school system - the way it's ran, the philosophies that drive it, the "socialization" that takes place. Our family is much better, imo, without our children being in it. We may support it through our tax dollars (we don't have any choice in that anyway), but the type of "reform" we would want, as others have said, is not popular, it seems, with the masses.

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Originally Posted by marilynmama View Post
I have spent time in Europe and have experience with the schools in those areas, the school system here is nothing like over in Europe....just look at the stats for schoolchildren here in America and I think your question about why people homeschool would answer itself. It is very well known and well documented (eg test scores, etc) that America has a very crappy educational system compared to other countries, it is really a shame that America can't educate yet is one of the best and biggest and richest countries in the world! It is sad really.
It's funny, but reading what M of M said about the school she attended, made me realize that I'd be even more wanting to homeschool if our schools were ran like that. The academics offered/taught in US schools is not our top reason for homeschooling. Those "stats", to me, say nothing about how children truly learn or anything about instilling a life-long desire to continue to learn. Yes, I believe our schools are on the cruddy side, academically, but there are so many other things inherently wrong with the system that the academics don't really register on my radar, if that makes sense.
post #249 of 253
First off, don't go! I've learned a lot by reading this whole thread!

Secondly, what you describe is not the thoughts nor education I received in this country. While I completely agree with
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Also, if a child is not planning to go to university, then there is no need to get A+ in that class. A simple passing grade would be enough (in which case no tutor or help would be required).
that has never been the case IME. Parents can be the worst form of pressure when it comes to academics and grades. Just because it's not necessary doesn't mean that kids aren't pressured by parents to do more than they should.

Regarding
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Also, school homework is strictly for students and schools do not expect parents to help out with same.
Again, where you are from is not what we experience here. Plenty of homework is given (more than I feel is necessary). Parents are expected (at least where I'm at) to continue the examples and lessons that teachers taught in the day. So, parents here are expected to help out, follow through with the teachers lessons. Unfortunately, there's no helping guide for parents to follow through -- just a plan worksheet that's been copied from some handbook and no explanation to parents as to what the students learned that day much less what they are covering during the month. How can a parent adequately help their child, as expected by the school, if that school doesn't help the parent with some preparation before assignments go out?

Personally, I'd rather be more of a leader in my children's lessons than follow someone else's examples.

Please don't go! None of the mamas here are hostile, they just want to enlighten you and inform you since you asked. Many are passionate, which is as it should be. But learn from this to become a better teacher and mother, don't shy away in defensiveness.
post #250 of 253
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Originally Posted by sha_lyn View Post
Didn't realize I had to qualify what we means
We= me and my husband
or
We= our family

It certainly does not mean me and someone I do not know
I wasn't asking people to stop using the word "we" as it relates to their family. But there have been some very specific posts here saying stuff to the effect of, "You have come here to our board, questioning what we do and we think this and we think that..." and lots of speaking for the board as though the board were one person. That's what I'm talking about. I don't want to be spoken for in terms of perceived offense from M of M. I have my own opinions and I don't like the: M of M vs "us" talk in some specific posts.
post #251 of 253
just subbing to this thread so I can read it fully later...
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