Asked not to dress DD in overalls... - Page 2

[Ilaria]

Originally Posted by RubyWild

I have a feeling that if the child can negotiate the overalls in the bathroom independently, then overalls would be allowed. If the child needs help, then she's wearing the wrong clothes for a Montessori school.

I tend to agree with that.

I usually let (my) Caroline choose her outfit for the day, and she loves dresses (easy) or shorts and a t-shirt. They work well. (Of course it's always summer where we live so clothes are at a minimum!

[RomanGoddess]

Well, she definitely needs help putting the overalls back on after she has gone to the toilet so I put her in other things now.

It's just too bad because she has a least 4 pairs of overalls and now she can't wear them to "school". So now she wears overalls on the weekends.

Sometimes I wish they wore a uniform. Life would be easier.

[Melda]

I was told what to and not to dress my dd in. She went awhile where she wanted to wear super girly frilly dresses and it became an issue because she was peeing on her dress and they asked me not to dress her in that so i didnt. I was also recently told not to let dd wear a pair of sandles and i resisted because it was the only shoes i could get her in without a fight so they agreed to let her wear them and they needed to help work with her keeping them on in school.

[**guest**]

I used to teach at a Montessori preschool and we asked parents not to send their child to school in overalls.
We had so many kids who couldn't get out of their overalls in time and ended up peeing their pants. Some of the kids were so horrified and embarrassed about having an accident in public.

I do think it is in the child's best interest that teachers ask this.

As a mom, I do know how comfy overalls are. But they sure are tricky to get off in time.

[lalaland42]

Originally Posted by cmlp

Well, she definitely needs help putting the overalls back on after she has gone to the toilet so I put her in other things now.

It's just too bad because she has a least 4 pairs of overalls and now she can't wear them to "school". So now she wears overalls on the weekends.

Sometimes I wish they wore a uniform. Life would be easier.

So you think. DD "wears" a uniform to school (she is 2) and the reason it is in quotes is because she hasn't actually worn it since her b-day 2 months ago. I try to get her in it every once in a while but no dice, she just won't wear it. Uniforms are stupid for 2 year olds. I would choose easy to get on pants any day over the stupid uniform. : And for the price I paid for the stupid uniforms, I could have bought quite a few Hannas. Not that she will wear those either, they don't fit her style.

[nkm1968]

Our school allows overalls and tie shoes once children can independently put them on and off. However, the school also prohibits party dresses, logos on clothing, light up tennis shoes, characters on backpacks and lunch boxes, etc. Which is a great idea, but very difficult to live by in todays super media saturated world! It took me weeks to find velcro shoes that did not light up (thanks a lot, Stride Right!) so now we just get tiny vans slip on tennies. Which one crabby directress (not my kid's directress) crabbed about because these shoes might retard Fiona's velcro skill development. I just smiled and thanked her for the advice, and then thanked myself for not choosing her room!

[RomanGoddess]

Originally Posted by nkm1968

Our school allows overalls and tie shoes once children can independently put them on and off. However, the school also prohibits party dresses, logos on clothing, light up tennis shoes, characters on backpacks and lunch boxes, etc. Which is a great idea, but very difficult to live by in todays super media saturated world!

Which is why I think uniforms are a good idea.

[TereasaT]

Originally Posted by cmlp

Which is why I think uniforms are a good idea.

But then your DD wouldn't ever be able to wear her comfortable overalls even if she could do them herself.

[alegna]

Originally Posted by cmlp

Which is why I think uniforms are a good idea.

I think the whole idea of uniforms for children is sick personally. Even more so *montessori* children- what about choice? Even MORE so preschool age children.

If they can't be kids at 4yrs old, when can they?

-Angela

[kaydee]

Originally Posted by alegna

I think the whole idea of uniforms for children is sick personally. Even more so *montessori* children- what about choice? Even MORE so preschool age children.

If they can't be kids at 4yrs old, when can they?

-Angela

Not saying I think uniforms are a great option, but there are already restrictions, for practical reasons (outfits kids can manage themselves), to reduce commercialism (no character clothes), for safety (no sandals). And Montessori is about freedom within limits. So I guess it may vary where those limits are placed.

[Naless]

Originally Posted by alegna

I think the whole idea of uniforms for children is sick personally. Even more so *montessori* children- what about choice? Even MORE so preschool age children.

If they can't be kids at 4yrs old, when can they?

-Angela

My DD2 was in a montessori school for 2 years and they wore uniforms and it was never an issue

Why do you think uniforms are sick and how does uniforms stop kids from being kids? I'm not flaming, really wondering about your POV

[RomanGoddess]

I understand the whole freedom of choice thing but I also like the idea of parents AND children not having to deal with commercialism, competition for the trendiest wardrobe, and other issues relating to such "choice". Certainly at age 2 to 4, it is really just that I don't like having to look for something that is practical for DD to wear AND free of commercial characters AND free of brand name logos AND the right size, yada yada yada. Later on, it think it is nice to spare the child the stress of having to find the "right" thing to wear to school everyday. I remember kids getting teased because they did not have the nicest clothes and I remember getting teased because I had to wear my sister's ugly hand-me-downs.

I just think it is nice to be able to put all children on an equal footing when it comes to clothes, knapsacks, and shoes.

I did wear a uniform at a private school in grade 9 and loved it.

[alegna]

Originally Posted by Naless

Why do you think uniforms are sick and how does uniforms stop kids from being kids? I'm not flaming, really wondering about your POV

I think it's really warped to make small children all look alike. Yes, sure, there are a few jobs out there that require uniforms, but other than that, in day to day life we as adults are allowed to be individuals. A kid's day to day life is school. Period. To take that huge chunk of their lives and say you have to conform REALLY rubs me the wrong way.

I don't want to teach my children (or anyone elses' children for that matter) that they have to conform.

-Angela

[RomanGoddess]

Originally Posted by alegna

I don't want to teach my children (or anyone elses' children for that matter) that they have to conform.

I understand this point to but then again, I think that often (maybe even always) children feel like they have to conform anyway because instead of a uniform that everyone is supposed to wear, they have to wear a certain brand name that their parents cannot afford to buy them or a commercial character or whatever. I just like the idea of putting everyone on the same footing. And there is always the period after school and on weekends for expressing one's individuality.

[Ilaria]

I wish our school would prohibit characters on clothing , backpack and stuff.... I really despise it...the whole commercialism behind it and, truly, it's just plain ugly and looks cheap. Besides, it's really distracting at school. I have let my kids have soem PJs but that's it, I really, really dislike it, even gifts get recycled away...my poor deprived dd will never rejoice in Disney Princess shoes and my ds will get a Power rangers backpack when he's on his own!

[alegna]

Originally Posted by cmlp

I understand this point to but then again, I think that often (maybe even always) children feel like they have to conform anyway because instead of a uniform that everyone is supposed to wear, they have to wear a certain brand name that their parents cannot afford to buy them or a commercial character or whatever. I just like the idea of putting everyone on the same footing. And there is always the period after school and on weekends for expressing one's individuality.

I hope to raise children who don't feel they need to conform. I personally never felt that need.

And to a child school is MOST of their life. Percentage wise there's not a lot of after school and weekends.

I would never send my child to a school where a uniform was mandatory.

-Angela

[ashleyhaugh]

i worked at a regular old daycare, and while it wasnt a rule, we weould encourage people to not send their potty training kid in overalls or a onsie (or both, that was really tough) pants with snaps and zippers, most of the kids pulled down anyway, but with newer potty learners we were still helping with all of that, and the older ones, we'd help with snaps and zippers. its very frustrating when a child wants to do it by themselves, and cant get the clothes off by themselves( and not to mention onsie "tails" usually fall into the toilet, unless we tucked them up into the collar, lol).

[ani'smommy]

I think overalls are so comfy and cute for a toddler, but totally impractical. DD often wants to go potty all by herself (as with everything) so we usually put her in clothes that she can take off herself. Dresses are perfect. I understand your teacher's concern.

[arwenevenstar]

Jumping in late, as usual......but my thoughts are that it is acceptable to ask that a child doesn't wear something that inhibits their independence. I wanted to add, however, that dresses aren't the best idea also, certainly for the potty training child, as :
a. they have to lift them UP as opposed to down like trousers and leggings, a totally different manipulation (which tried in a hurry can end in an accident)
b. they trail in the toilet even if a child manages to get the dress up.

You could try these "skort" things which go down rather than up??

I think the idea is not only to foster independence but to alleviate frustrations.

A child that can't get their clothes off easily for the potty becomes frustrated perhaps?

I try to get around it by having a "weekend drawer" and a "school drawer" in the school drawer we have the plain t-shirts, easy pull up trousers or leggings and the weekend stuff is more glam and includes dresses. My dd ALWAYS without fail goes for dresses on the weekend (which is fine as I am around to help), but, to the moment (knock on wood ), we haven't had an issue with the desire for dresses for school.

[RomanGoddess]

Originally Posted by arwenevenstar

Jumping in late, as usual......but my thoughts are that it is acceptable to ask that a child doesn't wear something that inhibits their independence. I wanted to add, however, that dresses aren't the best idea also, certainly for the potty training child, as :
a. they have to lift them UP as opposed to down like trousers and leggings, a totally different manipulation (which tried in a hurry can end in an accident)
b. they trail in the toilet even if a child manages to get the dress up.

You could try these "skort" things which go down rather than up??

I think the idea is not only to foster independence but to alleviate frustrations.

A child that can't get their clothes off easily for the potty becomes frustrated perhaps?

I try to get around it by having a "weekend drawer" and a "school drawer" in the school drawer we have the plain t-shirts, easy pull up trousers or leggings and the weekend stuff is more glam and includes dresses. My dd ALWAYS without fail goes for dresses on the weekend (which is fine as I am around to help), but, to the moment (knock on wood ), we haven't had an issue with the desire for dresses for school.

The issue is not potty learning. She has been going to the toilet by herself for about nine months now. It's just getting the article of clothing on and off that is in question. Pulling the dress up doesn't seem to be a problem but agree that a loose dress falling below the knees can be cumbersome in terms of getting and keeping it up while you go (even for me ).