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I have a son who will be six in August and a two year old daughter. I am a SAHM and we homeschool. My son is very bright and has always been mature for his age. He has always had a pretty mild temperment. He has never really been what I would call "hyper". We got through the "terrible twos" without a hitch. I couldn't understand what was supposed to be so terrible about them...they were great for us. Then the threes came and we had some issues with him not wanting to do things that we ask of him, such as lay down when it was bed time, etc. And it would turn into an ordeal with him outright challenging us on things. No respect, no "fear" (which isn't really what I want anyway). We got through that and four and most of five were pretty decent. Now we've hit another rocky place in the road.

He questions and argues with pretty much everything that comes out of my mouth. It is so, so frustrating. The solution is probably a pretty simple one but thus far it has eluded me.

Some examples are me telling him to go brush his teeth. He asks "why" and he starts arguing. Or we are cleaning up the house and I hand him something that goes in his room and say "Take this to your room please" and he starts arguing and asking "why". Pretty much anything I ask/tell him to do turns into a ten minute argument.

If it were something like him not putting his shoes on when it was time for us to go to the park then I could use the consequence of "Well I guess we have missed our trip to the park because you refused to put your shoes on without an argument". But when it is something that doesn't matter to him one way or the other (like house being clean) then there isn't a lot that I can think of that would tie in for a consequence.

In the past I have pretty much always answered his "why" questions and that is probably part of the problem. I have "set him up" to think that he is "grown" and that he can question things. I'm not sure what has given him the idea that he doesn't have to do as he is asked though.

The way I've been dealing with this varies and the inconsistency may be part of the problem. But if I could find something that actually works then I wouldn't have a problem being consistent with it. My response has varied from explaining why I want him to do whatever it is to me telling him that I do not have to justify myself to him. I have tried telling him that we are not going to argue about it and that I am not going to have a discussion with him about it and then just shutting my mouth. Then he goes into a "But maaaammmaaaa, whyyyyy" and arguing basically with himself and whatever it was I told him to do still doesn't get done.

I have never been a parent who wanted a child to blindly "obey" but I've never been an overly permissive parent either. We don't spank and we mostly use logical and natural consequences. Some do see me as kind of "strict" as I insist that my kids have and use manners, clean up their messes, etc. I'm not really sure how to describe my parenting style. I AP when they are infants, we still do the family bed, we don't use CIO, we don't spank...but I am definitely not a parent who does the whole "find a mutual thing to make us both happy" deal that I have read about.

So anyway, I'm sure that I've screwed up somewhere along the way to bring this on but how do I fix it? I am to the point where I actually DO want a child who just obeys and does as he is told becuase I am so very tired of all the arguing and questioning.

I'm not sure if genetics play a roll but I can clearly remember not having a bit of fear of adults and of thinking I was "grown" myself. I would speak to adults as if I were an adult myself. Maybe I'm just "paying for my raising" as they say.
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I can't help, but I can commiserate. My 7.5 year old is similar. We to got through the twos just fine, but 3.5 to just past 4 was very difficult. The arguing began. It has gotten better. Most of the time.

My son is generally a mellow, gentle, sensitive kid. However, he has that "my way or the highway" personality streak (my father is the exact same way, and he is _very_ hard to get along with on more than a surface level, I sure hope my son isn't headed for the same isolation sdue to his headstrong and inflexible nature). This kid argues with everything I say. When he was 4, he would argue when I said "What a beautiful day!" ("No it's not! Why would you say that! It's horrible!") The sky was not blue, the grass was not green, food gross, flowers stank, stinky stuff smelled good, you name it.

Now, he argues less about factual statements, but does argue about anything in our day that I have decided on (to a lesser extent, dad too). Dinner, breakfast, where to plant the zucchini, when to mow the lawn, the errand running order, where to store the pasta, pintos or kidneys, even that we "need" a new tablecloth.

Hoep someone has some suggestions!
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I have no experience with this since my daughter is not even a year old, but I wonder if it could be a function of the kids not feeling like they have any power or control over most of their world, and this is one way to exert influence? Of course this is just the armchair psychologist in me coming out and I have no idea how to solve the problem, but perhaps this could be an underlying reason. I'm interested in seeing what others think.

Mandy
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My mom thinks that it may be a control issue as well. I'm iffy...it may very well be true. But I am of the opinion that we were given children for a reason and that there is a reason they are children and we are adults and that we ultimately DO have control. So he is just going to have to deal with the fact that ultimately, I AM in charge.

That said, he has quite a bit of control over his own life. He chooses when he gets up in the morning, he chooses weather or not to watch cartoons or lay and cuddle or just get up and go play. He helps in the decision of what I am making for breakfast. He chooses when he is hungry and wants to eat at lunch. He has to ask permission but pretty much chooses when he will go to my mom's house for a visit (we share property so it is just a walk across the yard). He has his own channel line up thingie on the tv so he is allowed to choose what he wants to watch (but is not allowed to choose unlimited tv time...that is one of those "I'm in charge" things ).

On most things I don't treat him a whole lot differently than I treat his father. So either I'm a complete control freak over him as well (which is possible ) or I treat him pretty respectfully.
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