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post #1 of 17
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My dh is of Hispanic descent and has a common Spanish last name (as do our sons) -- his father is Puerto Rican, born in Brooklyn, and his parents were from Puerto Rico itself.
So, I guess my kids are 1/4 Hispanic -- so, do I check that off on school forms (rather than just plain white, that is)? I am selfishly thinking they will be eligible for minority scholarships and such some day, but don't want to be ridiculous about it either.
post #2 of 17
Yes, they are considered Hispanic. I am American- Czech/Irish/German/Welsh decent and my DH is from Argentina -whose father is full blooded Italian and his mother is French/Argentinian.

My children are considered Hispanic. I am soo for it, b/c it will be easier for them to get into the better school's, more apt to get scholarships and job hires.

It is for their benefit not a handicap.

HTH!
=)Kristina
post #3 of 17
I find the fact that they get special treatment for being a minority racist.
post #4 of 17
There is no "official" designation for Hispanic. I am 1/2 Puerto Rican and I've always put Hispanic. However I don't think I will put that my kids are. They have no real contact with Hispanic culture (I don't speak the language so I can't teach them, we live in a white neighborhood, we all look white etc). It's just a respect thing. I want them to be proud of their mixed heritage but I don't think they are really Puerto Rican in any real sense anymore. They will have distant cousins who are PR through and through - and we will occassionally have PR food - but that's about as much contact as they will have growing up.

If I were not so assimilated I would probably feel differently however. And I would support them (and feel proud) if they decided to explore their PR heritage and embrace it later in life.

JMO
peace,
robyn
post #5 of 17
They are hispanics if they speak spanish, as Hispanic is not a race,

Hispanic is a term that is used for people that have Spanish as a mother tounge, he maybe of Puerto Rican descendance I think Latino(a) is the best term. Your kids are Hispanic if they have Spanish as a mother tounge.

Anyways, my DD's are considered 1/2 Venezuelan 1/2 Welsh, becuase I'm directly from Venezuela, they have a not so common spanish last name though, many people think is Portuguese: But it's Spanish.

AS their exposure to my culture, it's basically becuase of me, I make Venezuelan stuff from time to time, we celebrate th Independence Day of Venezuela and things like that. And I only speak spanish to them, so for example they are really 1/2 Hispanic(becuase they have spanish as one of their mother tounges)
post #6 of 17
I am just curious, what are the benefits available to Hispanic children that would not be available if they were Caucasian?

I didn't realize that nationality made a difference either way for things like college scholarships. I know that there are all different kids of scholarships, and I know a lot of them have to do with Religion and Nationality, but I never had any idea that being Hispanic would mean that you get more opportunities than non-Hispanic...or any other nationality. I just figured it was pretty equal.

can anyone fill me in??
post #7 of 17
I don't know about currently but when I was applying to college it was helpful. I didn't have to pay to apply to the Ivy Leagues (they sent my $30 checks back!). Many schools at the time had "quotas". And although I was a good student, I probably wouldn't have had so many scholarship offers, etc, if I didn't meet their quotas.

IMO it was totally bogus for me to get those opportunities. My parents could afford to send me to school (my PR dad had a PHD for goodness sake!) and I am not really such a good ambassador for "mi raza" since I'm pretty assimilated culturally. I wish they would just base those things on income/class level and ignore race/ethnicity.

OTOH I might see things differently than the average "white" person since I have a mixed heritage and more understanding of hispanic culture. So if the point is to get more mixed perspectives then I guess it's useful.

anyway, I might be like 10 years out of date so maybe others know what it's like for colleges now...

Added: If my kids had dark skin, however, I would DEFINITELY list them as Hispanic since they will have to face discrimination based on racial profiling - so therefore they might "deserve" to get more breaks up front. But since we're all whitey white looking, then it's not an issue for us. HTH.

peace,
robyn
post #8 of 17
are you guys serious? you put tht your kids are hispanic so they get scholarships and such? white ppl in this country get so many priviledges....the one priviledge that minorities get you all are trying to get a piece of? ok that's fair.
ignoring race/ethnicity is really not an option just yet in this country imo. when it was ignored the colleges were 90% white. now at least minority cildren have a chance of getting into college even if their parents can't afford it.
post #9 of 17
Thanks Hippymomma!!
post #10 of 17
This is actually an interesting question for me. My dad is from Mexico, my mom is white and from the midwest. My siblings and I are such a mix. Some have dark skin, some have light. Some speak Spanish, some have no interest and do not. My brother who is darker skinned, says he is white. My sister has lighter skin, but has always felt she is Mexican. It interesting to decide for yourself what you will be called and how you feel. It's been a constant comparsion for me, I have cousins that are more Mexican than me, others who are less. What makes someone Latino? There are plenty of blonde haired blue eyed people in South America/Central America so I don't overplay the skin color. On the other hand, I have friends whose families have been here for generations, many, many generations (tracing roots back to the Spanish land grants) and call themselves "Mexican." I've noticed that if you have darker skin, you can call yourself Latino (regardless of connection to culture) but if you are lighter but have a close connection to your cultural hertiage, it is suspected you are in it to be cool or for scholarships. I have neices who are blond, blue eyed and frankly, a bit racist towards "minorities" but are they as Latino as their cousins who have darker skin? My dad is Mexican, but if her married a white woman, and his children married white people, at what point are the kids white? Especially, as I said before, skin color isn't a good indicator. I don't have an answer for you. I think one problem is the choices you are given. Many forms say "Hispanic-- non white" or "White-- non-Hispanic" which is pretty silly. In Mexico, my dad would say he is "white" since he isn't asian or black, but when he moved here he was informed that he wasn't white.

As far as scholarships, in California it is illegal for public schools to recruite you, enroll you or give you money based on ethnicty, but at private colleges there could be scholarships designated for certain ethnicities. I don't really know how much my ethinicity helped/hurt me get into college.
post #11 of 17
Hello Flor,

I'm a blonde haired, green eyes, pale skin South American, born and raised in Venezuela to a Colombian of Spaniard descendance(Spaniard great great grandparents) and a Venezuelan of Icelandic descendance(Icelandic great greatgrandparents).
So I call myself Venezuelan, a white Latina if you want. AS I don't have immediate family in Iceland and Spain anymore, I consider myself a white latina. Here I'm a white person born in Venezuela.
DD1 has blond hair, light skin, some freckles in her nose and blue eyes, and DD2 has light brown hair(like DH) and green eyes with light skin.
They are 1/2 Latina's still even though they are blond.

About your nieces, they still have Mexican blood, so just becuase they are blond, that doesn't mean anything.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by mummyto3girls View Post
Hello Flor,


About your nieces, they still have Mexican blood, so just becuase they are blond, that doesn't mean anything.
As I said above, I realize there are many light skinned people in Central and South America. I personally have red hair and have never really felt that I stood out in urban Mexico. However, I'm unsure of "Mexican" blood. If they feel no connection to Latino culture, or people, and aren't identified as such by anyone else, what is the significance of "blood"? How many generations does it linger? They don't self-identify as Latino, though their cousins with the same blood do. So, to the OP, I'd say, how do you identify your kids and how will they identify themselves? The terms are made up and vary from country to country.

Hi, mummyto3girls, just out of curiosity, does Venezuela use the same ethnic catergories as the US? What did you call yourself while in Venezuela? (off topic, I just find it interesting!)
post #13 of 17
I think it lingers to 4 or 5 generations.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by dubfam View Post
I am just curious, what are the benefits available to Hispanic children that would not be available if they were Caucasian?
Many schools, school systems, and colleges give some weight to "race" in admissions, in an attempt to increase diversity and give opportunities to minorities.

We have friends who told us that identifying their DD as "Hispanic" gave her a significant advantage in getting into the elementary school of their choice. She is "1/4 Hispanic" because her dad is 1/2 Puerto Rican. He speaks Spanish, but the kids don't; nor do they have any particular connection to Puerto Rican culture.
post #15 of 17
No offense meant to anyone here...but am I the only one who finds this a little disturbing? I am certainly not faulting anyone on this thread, but I can't imagine my son not being able to get into a school just because I check the box that says "White-non Hispanic" on his admission forms.

How funny that things like this are set up to prevent "Racism" and then that is what it turns into. I think it is a catch 22.
I certainly don;t see a better solution and I do understand that being white can open a lot of doors in this country so I am definitely not coming from a "Poor Whitey" position. I just don't like to think that my son may have doors closed on him because of his being Caucasian. Just like I wouldn't want that for anyone of any ethnicity.

I really hope I am not offending anyone. I see nothing wrong with what has been posted here!!
post #16 of 17
I honestly find that a little bit disturbing, i didn't mention anything in my previous posts.
But I have to say that I have been told my DD's teachers that they find DD "Very interesting" because she's multicultural and as she's the only child that can speak Spanish completely, that adds to it. If you get what I mean

Flor, in Venezuela I refer myself as "Latina" i don't really know the ethnic categories in the US, here for example I'm White, not Latina
We also refer to ourselves as Criollos
post #17 of 17
mummyto3girls... I personally looked for a diverse school for my son, so point very well taken.
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