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post #1 of 29
6/19/03 at 4:00pm
Thread Starter 
http://www.motherofeden.com/statement.htm

posting it because im sure there are some intersted in seeing BOTH sides... and im also sure tereson's thread will get pulled much quicker than the original "big guy" post...
post #2 of 29
6/19/03 at 7:10pm

Response to MOE Essays

I just read Tereson's essays defending her side and I find them to be all over the place. There are so many contradictions. The main one being this:

"My goal above all else was that

> no one else could make a pocket diaper legally and sell it."

But then she says she has no intentions of putting WHAMs out of business. Well which is it?

I do not like Fuzzi Bunz , the diaper or the company , and when I purchase other WHAM pocket diapers I do not want MOE profiting through the licensing.

Jamie
post #3 of 29
6/19/03 at 7:32pm
I think this has to be moved to activism or it will get pulled.

But ITA!!!!!
post #4 of 29
6/19/03 at 8:16pm
Where can the essays be found?
post #5 of 29
6/19/03 at 8:18pm
I do agree. She seems to have backtracked a bit..Let's start a thread in activism.
post #6 of 29
6/19/03 at 8:22pm
Never mind, I found it .
post #7 of 29
6/19/03 at 8:29pm
Sorry , I'm new here and didn't quite know how to post and where. Just wanted to add my two cents
post #8 of 29
6/19/03 at 8:54pm
This statement says no cease and desist letters have been sent, but in the link to the email correspondence, there is mention of c&d letter, though it looks like the first line of the 2nd paragraph was deleted.
post #9 of 29
6/19/03 at 10:56pm
Ummm can we say contradictory?? I haven't even finished reading all of the links yet either!
post #10 of 29
6/19/03 at 11:05pm
What I don't get is the bit about the Kanga dipe being obscure and hard to find info about...please correct me if I am wrong but isn't the Kanga pocket dipe sold at Born to Love? BTL is a pretty big online retailer, not exactly obscure.
post #11 of 29
6/19/03 at 11:32pm

Nothing was deleted

Nothing was deleted from that email. It said I would be sending her a C&D for formalities sake b/c she was wholesaling. Everything was copied and pasted in it's original format. We have not sent any CD letters as of today.

Tereson
post #12 of 29
6/19/03 at 11:38pm

producing pocket dipe

Perhaps that was worded wrong. It should have been worded "produced withouth a lisence"

You can ask Catherine if she was selling those diapers in 1999. I do not believe she was. I do see some now and I do not even know if they are the same thing.

Regardless, it was not readily available to me at the time nor did I know about it.

Tereson
post #13 of 29
6/20/03 at 12:08am
It looks like some diapering activism is going on here...this is a new one for me

Can someone fill us activism regulars in on what this is about?
post #14 of 29
6/20/03 at 12:12am
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post #15 of 29
6/20/03 at 12:21am

Interesting...

Quote:
By issuing a license MOE maintains a degree of control over quality of products “manufactured under pat. No xxxx” therefore protecting the consumer and viability of the cloth diapering industry.
From my understanding the fuzzi bunz quality has left a lot to be desired lately. :

Deirdre,

This has been on going on the Diapering Board, but I believe that the tread has recently been pulled. I really don't understand the legalities of what the issue is but it is basically a Big Business WAHM verses some of the other WAHMs. But don't quote me as I could be mistaken.

I just HATE to see anyone's livelihood threatened. :

But then, I do believe that whatever you place out in the universe comes back three fold. So if MOE or HH are putting bad energy out there then it will come back on them and if not, then all is right with the world.
post #16 of 29
6/20/03 at 12:25am
Quote:
Originally posted by Deirdre
It looks like some diapering activism is going on here...this is a new one for me

Can someone fill us activism regulars in on what this is about?
Hi Deirdre,

Uh oh the Diapering Hyenas have come stampeding into Activism :LOL

Anyways the original thread (that was in Diapering) has been deleted, so I can't refer you to that. But you can refer to the above link for Tereson's statements/side to the story, here to Parentplace where the heated subject is discussed - http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/...rs&msg=32360.1 and the other thread that was moved to here as well. I think that's all I can find.

And then, tell us what you think.
post #17 of 29
6/20/03 at 12:36am
Thread Starter 
hmmm lets see what i think, LOL. to be honest... i have no interest in either companies.. i have ONE fuzzibuns that doesnt fit kyla right (too small even tho she is 25-30 lbs).. and i dont own a single Happy Heiny.... tho i do own lots of apron strings pockets. That being said i *DO* understand both sides.... I understand why Linda is upset, honestly i do. But for me, if the patent is legal... then why should MOE feel guilty about enforcing it when it comes down to threatening her business? Isnt that WHY people spend the money to get patented? Isnt that the inventors right? Yes she is a WAHM, but she is also a business owner and you have to do whats right for YOUR business.... Yes it would hurt Happy Heinys business to go back to retail only... but it isnt MOE's fault that she ventured in that direction... maybe it would have been a wise decision to talk to Tereson BEFORE taking that step ? That would have saved all this hassle.... FuzziBunz have said patent pending for a long time.. and the application has been in the database for a long time.. so there was no question that it probably WOULD happen down the road.. kwim? It seems that IF *I* were running a pocket diaper business I would cover my bases and contact anyone with patents pending to see exactly what i would be infringing or not infringing on. So I guess i just cant see fault in MOE using their legal right to protect their design... because Tereson is right.. IF she were allow Happy Heinys to continue wholesaling/distributing.... then she would have no basis to protect her design from someone else down the line doing the same thing (WAHM or NON WAHM).
post #18 of 29
6/20/03 at 12:55am
ok, well here's my question:

if people making pocket diapers put the term "based on the patented Fuzzi Bunz pocket design by Mother of Eden" at the bottom of their webpage, then people who think that fuzzi bunz suck (or have very poor quality control) wouldn't want to buy those diapers right?

I own 2 HH diapers and 2 apronstrings, but I've heard so much negativity about fb that I wouldn't have bought them if that statement was at the bottom of the ordering page. I would really question how good pocket diapers actually were. I love my apronstrings (I have leaking issues with the hh, but they are great daytime diapers) I'm glad I tried them, I will order more

Anyway, that's just an observation. I'm sure there are just as many people who stand by fb and would use them no matter what!
post #19 of 29
6/20/03 at 2:19am
I squished the threads together so there would be less confusion.

What is the patent ## by the way??
post #20 of 29
6/20/03 at 2:50am
never mind here it is...

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...pers+AND+cloth
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