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post #1 of 25
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I was at the library today and checking out a bunch of books for my kiddos, as well as a bunch of books for me. The librarian checking out my books asked if I was going to enroll my kids in the summer reading program. I said probably not, my oldest was only three. She replied that that was not a problem, as the children don't have to read themselves, listening counts too. Well, that's nice. She went on to describe all the prizes they can win and such. I said, well, Anna might enjoy prizes, but I wasn't sure I really philosophically approved of getting extrinsic rewards for reading (which should be its own reward) and also I wasn't sure I wanted to get into the whole keeping track of how long the kids listened to books, etc. The librarian went on about how when you work, you are rewarded by a paycheck. I told her that I didn't want reading to be work but fun, and she said, "Well, for a lot of people it is work." And if I had a kid who was struggling with developing fluency or something and reluctant to read, I can see a place for rewards and incentive to develop the skill and fluency that would make reading a pleasure. But it just rubs me the wrong way.

We read a lot at our house. I suck at playing with my girls; I really don't pretend well. I can do art stuff and sing and set up obstacle courses and play board games and do puzzles, but the whole nuts and bolts of early childhood: pretend play, is lost on me. And quite frankly, I hate it. So I don't do much of it. I encourage my girls to play together, and my kids to play alone. And daddy sometimes plays. And while it's mostly a self justification, I think playing alone, in ones own world is a good skill. But while I don't play with my kids much, we read a lot. I love children's books. I love reading aloud. My girls enjoy it, although sadly we read less than we did when Catherine was younger. When my second was a baby, I could get away with having "Anna and mommy time" and foisting the baby off on Daddy for a while and reading. But as Catherine got big enough to listen too, it became harder to justify separate reading times. (Catherine being a major klingon and protesting mightily at time away from Mommy.) But Catherine doesn't have the attention span for books of my first born, and the two of them together encourage silliness, so it just doesn't work as well. But we still read at least an hour a day. (Though I miss being able to cuddle with just my first born. She gets neglected because Catherine is such a mommy's girl. But Daddy doesnt want to deal with the upset, and I understand. It's just a tightrope.)

So anyway, I have a history of philosophical ambivalence about reading programs. I did them as a kid and always won, by a lot, every time. It never meant much to me and I hated keeping track of books and coloring in the logs and such, but I did get a couple cool prizes. And when I taught, I never had classroom reading incentive programs like most classes. I would hand out the pizza hut read-it or whatever the school was doing, but I personally did nothing to encourage them. I did read aloud to my kids a half hour a day and had extensive time for them to read themselves, had a large selection of books available on many topics, talked to kids about what they read, and would seek out (or order on ebay) books I thought a specific child would enjoy and offer them to the child. I didn't assign book reports, although instead of the basals, I had my kids read trade books and discuss them/ do skill work through them. My kids had high reading test scores and read a lot independently, despite my not bribing them like most other teachers did. I was kinda lazy and hate keeping track of all that stuff, as well as disliking the whole issue of kids racing through a book to check it off and what not.

But now it's another issue: my own kids. Anna would enjoy the program, probably. If she were old enough to want to do it and do it mostly herself, I certainly wouldn't forbid it. But do I encourage it and do all the work myself, so she can get prizes. (Which she would like, but for a philosophy I'm skeptical of), or do I just say no?
post #2 of 25
If you're philosophically opposed to it and would have to do the majority fo the work, then don't do it.

When she wants to do it on her own, then that can be her decision.

I don't think it's necessary to facilitate something that you're going to resent to please the nebulous 'other'. She's not likely to remember that you didn't do the reading program for her when she was 3.

So, do what you prefer and don't feel guilty. This isn't the last summer ever for a reading program, and both of you will enjoy it more if she is the one who's running the show.
post #3 of 25
I completely understand the "reading is its own reward" thing. If I felt like it would influence our enjoyment of reading, I wouldn't do it. However ...

My kids are 4 and 2, so I could sweep it under the rug, but our library lets the kids pick out a book to keep at the completion of the program. It's sort of a "cherry on top" thing.

Is it a "write down each book you read" thing? (which blows with non-writing kids, and I refuse to do) Or is it amount of time?

Obviously you can control the choice, for at least another year, if not longer.
post #4 of 25
I'd just say no

I don't see any reason to reward an activity that your children enjoy. If she'd like special prizes, get her a special bookmark or, even better, a couple of special books for summer reading.
post #5 of 25
I am a big reader. I think reading is rewarding without prizes, but we do it every year since I want going to the library (instead of a bookstore) to be rewarding. From both a frugal & environmental perspective, I want my kids to use the library. Also from a frugal perspective, I LOVE free programs
post #6 of 25
I don't know if I'd do one with prizes either. My DS participated in the program at our library last summer but instead of prizes, for every book read you turned in a token (with a picture of an animal on it) and every token counted as $1 towards an adopt an animal program. The library ended up adopting something like 4 manatees, 6 elephants and 3 giraffes (I'm probably off on which # for which animal). The kids signed up for the program got to go to a weekly event at the library (usually a storyteller or some sort of presentation).
post #7 of 25
My DS loved the summer reading program at our library. He read so many books last summer. Yes, he got some crappy plastic toy after he read for a certain number of hours, but it was the reading he really loved. The program was not a competition and there was no "winner."
post #8 of 25
The first year we did the reading program at our library, we got some board books, a set of markers and a pass to the local pool. The next year, they had a "treasure box" from Oriental Trading Co with junk. Blech.

If the prizes were toys or candy (like at our library), I wouldn't do it. If they would reward with books or art supplies, then I just might do it. I agree with you philosophically, though. I think I remember reading in one of my grad classes that the surest way to remove internal motivation for an activity is to offer an extrinsic reward for it. Once the reward is gone, so is the motivation. poof.

Kristin
mom to dd (5 1/2), ds (almost 3) and #3 due in June
post #9 of 25
I do it with my children. One of my twins would not read at all last summer and he was eight. I did all the reading to him aloud. Now a year later he is on Honor Roll. My preschooler was three last summer and had very little interest in books but now can't get enough. The prizes worked and it was a lot of fun. Here they get to pick out a free book to take home each week for keeps. They were really nice hardbound books for preschoolers and paperbacks for the older kids. The prizes were our summer entertainment because each week they would give them a coupon for a different place in town to get a meal or activity. It was really awesome and I didn't feel it took much work for me. I had five children enrolled in the program. They still have their t-shirts too that they got for completeing the ten week program.
post #10 of 25
We've done it every year for the past few. older dd, now 7, reads on her own, and also reads to her sister. they like it; they get a chart to stick stickers on and a free book.

I'm more with Alfie Kohn on the rewards thing, but it's fun and the kids get a free book, so why not do it?
post #11 of 25
My Dd has done it for several years. She does it because she likes the goodies (coupons for local restaurants or ice cream, stickers, etc.) and she figures that she might as well because she's going to be reading anyway. We've never been about rewards for reading, and she gets that. She keeps track of the reading for the program and we redeem the prizes throughout the summer.
post #12 of 25
We did it last year, we got a packet of free admission tickets just for completing it. That was in our old town. We will do it this year b/c I'm curious what it is like in our new town, and it makes me read more to my kids. I don't know how good it will be, and we will not be attending the preschool age story time, b/c it is all TV charactors, but we are going to try out the baby story time
post #13 of 25
I avoid those. We want her to read for the joy of reading. I think those programs are an incentive for those who don't like to read.
post #14 of 25
We haven't done it before but we plan to this year. Dd is 7 and an independent reader now. Our motivation is not to push her to read more or get prizes for reading. We are relatively new in town and want to help her feel involved in the library/community more and do an activity that many other children her age in town are doing. The library also seems to have a number of free activities planned to go along with the reading program that I feel dd would enjoy.
post #15 of 25
What I liked about the program at our library is that it made reading more like an activity like softball or gymnastics or dance.

We had a program we went to and were regular about when we went (every Tuesday afternoon).

I also liked that at our library you didn't fill anything out, you just went to the libary and put your name on a list, the librarian then calls each child to her desk and they sit and discuss the book.

At the end of that discussion time, they go with an assistant and play a game (like a carnival game) and can win cards (anywhere from 2-4 in a game of chance) that they can eventually buy little prizes with.

But my kids were much more invested in the whole experinence than the prizes.
post #16 of 25
We do it every year. We focus more on the reading--the kids like to list the books they've read and it makes great memorabilia for them. We go to some of the programs they offer and take advantage of the baseball game tickets they hand out (just for signing up . . . not for actually reading a certain number). Our program downplays the reward, I think. They are there as an incentive for kids who need it, but they don't say to kids "Read and you'll get this" if that makes any sense. With anything, we take what's offered and filter it and mold it to fit our families needs and ideals.
post #17 of 25
If you don't like it, don't do it! Maybe you have suggestions for your library on an incentive-free reading club?

Personally, as far as prizes or incentives, I think they can be a wonderful thing for a child who doesn't have a lot, and might really appreciate a free book or some fun stickers or whatever they give a way at your library.

When I was little, I loved the reading programs, because I was great at reading, and struggled with math and sports. So reading a ton of books and "winning the challenge" or whatever they call it these days was important to me--I wasn't winning any soccer games, and I wasn't excelling in other subjects, so this was one area that gave me some confidence.

I think the conversation with the librarian was kind of off--I wouldn't look at a summer reading program from the perspective that it is work for some kids to read and they should be paid--I would look at it as a celebration of reading and an opportunity to get all kids excited about reading. Some kids are great readers, some kids reluctant, and they are reaching out to all of them.

For those who do enjoy participating in summer reading programs, Barnes & Noble runs one each year. They have a sheet you can get in the stores or online, and your child fills out what were their favorite part of the eight books that they read, and then they can choose a free book. You don't have to buy the eight books at B&N, or show a receipt. Last year, they gave away 190,000 books.

If you think of how many children in America don't own any books, it's a pretty nice initiative.
post #18 of 25
We just do it for the free t-shirts:

That being said, it does get us to the library more often for storytime and other special summer programs (magic show, puppet show, music performers) I probably wouldn't drag us all there if we weren't part of the program.

Oh... and did I mention the free t-shirts?
post #19 of 25
I have not done the summer reading thing with my two, but now that I am a librarian...
I am opposed to "reading for rewards" or jumping through hoops for prizes, but the downtown library where I work serves so many children who have no one to be involved in their lives. They come with daycare groups or afterschool programs, and sometimes with parents, tutors, or relatives, but you can tell that they do not get many "perks" in life. I think the summer reading program gives them something free and fun and seems to get them excited about reading. We use t-shirt transfers, small tattoos, and a medal as the "prizes". It seems pretty harmless to me. The "crew" of about eight of us who work in the children's room really get to know the children. We read to them and get to know what they like so we can pick books out for them. We help them with their homework. It feels like the only place where these children get unlimited access to books and people who encourage them to read for fun.
Just my thoughts...
post #20 of 25
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I guess maybe I don't know enough about the program yet to make a real decision. I'm disappointed because during the summer, the only real story times are oriented towards early school age kiddos, which rocks, but there is no preschool option. I think the theme is pirates. There are also movie nights, but the selections really aren't anything I would think great for my girls. (But I'm picky about movies. We watch a lot more tv than we should but I'm majorly picky about content/ intensity. Lots and lots of Little Bear here.)

I am not really opposed to reading incentive programs existing, per se. I know for a lot of kids, they are phenomenal. I think for kids who haven't been exposed much to reading or who are building fluency/ skills, they can be a great starter to get kids interested. I LOVE the idea of a librarian sitting down with a child and discussing a book. Wow, how awesome! And perks, prizes, free books, adult attention, and free tshirts are all lovely. I think ours is more of a "whenever you come in, you fill out a log and at the end of the summer get a prize" thing, as opposed to a regularly scheduled activity.

I think one of the PP put their finger on it; the whole conversation with the librarian was just "off." The whole dismissive idea of "well, reading is work so you should be compensated" just didn't sit well. I would have been a lot more accepting had she just said, "Yeah, I agree, but it is kinda fun for kids."

I'm all about using the library versus buying books. Very very big library users here! (Although I don't infrequently wind up with fines.) :

ETA: I just checked the details, and you pick up a log, and when you have read/ listened to 15 books, you get to choose a book to keep and get two baseball tickets. Heck, we easily read 15 books a day. (Although that seems to sorta penalize kids reading longer chapter books.) So this could be fairly low key for us. One day copy down the books in our stack and get a book. It's a one time prize for each kid. So maybe we'll try it. Anna doesn't even have to know about the "rewards" really. I'm all about free books. Thanks for your help!
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