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post #1 of 16
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I'm really going to withdraw DS from school at the end of this year.

I live in Washington state and apparently I need to take a class or something to be considered qualified enough to homeschool him. Everyone keeps pointing me to the Radical Homeschooler's website but her class is totally SUPER religious and I just...can't do it. Not to mention the class is too expensive and confusing for me.

So I'm just putting this out there hoping someone knows where/how I can take this class I need, in a secular format, hopefully for a reasonable price?
post #2 of 16
Congratulations on your decision!

I'm in Canada, so I can't help much, but I found this list through A to Z home's cool:

http://www.washhomeschool.org/whoQualify.html

The A to Z site is one of the best to start out with for really comprehensive homeschooling info:

http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/index.htm

Good luck and have fun!
post #3 of 16
Hi,
If either you or your partner has had one year of schooling beyond high school, you don't need to do the course. My dh had completed a vo-tech program, and I asked if that coutned, and they were going to get back to me if it was a problem, and I never heard back. The next year, I just checked the box that said I had the schooling. After that, I had completed one year of college so it was no longer an issue at all.
Anyway, check out the Family Learning Organization. http://www.familylearning.org/products.php
That is the link to their products, scroll down and you will find their course. It was $125 and you watch it at home.
post #4 of 16
There shouldn't BE a box to check that says how you qualify- you need only say whether you are using a certificated person to supervise or not (most people are not).

http://www.washhomeschool.org/WhoDec...of_Intent.html

And yeah, you only need about a year of post-secondary education (either parent), or have taken a parent qualifying course. Unfortunately, I don't really know anything about the qualifying courses, but there are quite a few around of varying lengths and formats.
post #5 of 16
Wow! I can't imagine having to take a class to prove I am capable of teaching my kids. I would really want to tell them to just blow it out their... you get the idea.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Heavenly View Post
Wow! I can't imagine having to take a class to prove I am capable of teaching my kids. I would really want to tell them to just blow it out their... you get the idea.
That was my first reaction as well!!

To the OP: I hope you can find out whether or not you need some stupid class before you begin HSing.
post #7 of 16
at homeschoolreviews.com under the Christian Light Education area a man tells that his wife took there distance education training and was offered a teaching job in a washington state school...

I think it cost about $80 and I took it...yes references scriptural reasons why parents should be the ones to teach their children...but you already know you want to homeschool so it may just reinforce that for you.

I really liked it and it doesn't hurt to inquire.

http://clp.org/Parent%20Training.shtml


review at

http://homeschoolreviews.com/reviews...ews.aspx?id=59

scroll to the post by Galen to read.

hth,
post #8 of 16
Eh. I guess... it's not great, but it's not As Bad As It Could Be (like those states which require a diploma...). The classes are privately created and run, and it doesn't take much college to not have to take one anyway.

When we were first looking to move from California to Washington four years ago (when my only child at the time was just a year old), it seemed like a lot of homeschoolers actually recommended taking one of the classes even if you had enough college to not need to, to help get information about various ways of homeschooling and how to go about it (legally) in Washington state. At the time in California, it seemed like there were quite a few threats to homeschooling there, various superintendents and state officials questioning the validity of the "private schools" consisting of 1-4 kids all in the same family, and that kind of worried me- I looked at the laws in Washington, and while they meant more requirements (annual assessments, parent qualification, annual declaration of intent), it was also soothing to me (at the time) that home based instruction was explicitely written into law there, which, it seemed to me, meant it was less likely to be able to be just summarily outlawed in some way. And looking at the laws a little more closely, they seem to be primarily meant to soothe the concerns of non-homeschoolers... you have to have an annual assessment, but the results don't go to anyone but yourself and there are a variety of ways (none of which include any government entities) to satisfy this requirement, including utterly painless ones; you have to "qualify", but you don't have to tell anyone in what way you have done so; you have to cover a set of subjects, but again, nobody's demanding anyone's syllabus (nor is there a way for anyone to do so). In exchange for that, homeschoolers have the right to access public school programs on a part-time basis, without losing their home-based-instruction status (this has been, in many cases, harder to wrench out of the actual schools- but again, since it's codified, there is a basis for that wrenching).

So, yeah, I dunno. California's setup seems better to me right now, but this sure beats New York, say, for my style of homeschooling.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Eris View Post
There shouldn't BE a box to check that says how you qualify- you need only say whether you are using a certificated person to supervise or not (most people are not).

http://www.washhomeschool.org/WhoDec...of_Intent.html

And yeah, you only need about a year of post-secondary education (either parent), or have taken a parent qualifying course. Unfortunately, I don't really know anything about the qualifying courses, but there are quite a few around of varying lengths and formats.
Nope, there probably wasn't. I probably signed a spot acknowledging that I was blah blah blah. Filling out these forms don't have a really strong impact in my life so I don't remember the little details like that.

The family learning org is extremely unschooling friendly and is secular.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Heavenly View Post
Wow! I can't imagine having to take a class to prove I am capable of teaching my kids. I would really want to tell them to just blow it out their... you get the idea.
Tell me about it. :

I've taken a year of college, but the law says 45 credits, and I don't quite have that many so I may just not take the class and say I qualify by education, and just hope no one asks for my transcripts.
post #11 of 16
It's such a stupid law. How is having 45 credits of college education going to help you homeschool? So if you've taken a year towards your degree in English Literature or something you're all of a sudden qualified to educate your children in everything?
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
You're preaching to the choir honey!
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by Eris View Post
So, yeah, I dunno. California's setup seems better to me right now, but this sure beats New York, say, for my style of homeschooling.
And what's so horrible about NYS laws on homeschooling anyway?

I send them paperwork 4X a year. Every other year, between 4th and 8th grades (so 5th and 7th or 4th, 6th and 8th) you have to spend $30 on a standardized test for your child to take, and then mail the results to the school district. The other years you can write your own annual assessment
which can be a paragraph stuck in with the 4th quarterly report.

It's not that hard to unschool and then fill out quarterly reports saying basic stuff we've covered. There are no attendance requirements or specific curriculum requirements or anything like that.

I'm not yet sure about NYS laws regarding high school; we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.
post #14 of 16
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And what's so horrible about NYS laws on homeschooling anyway?
Well, this sort of makes my point- I'm not trying to play any "my state is better than your state" game! I think in many cases the restrictions other states have sound onerous and complicated- paperwork four times per year would drive me insane! Or, so I think. But once you're in it and dealing and know other people, it just doesn't seem as bad.

The laws in Washington, non-sensical as they may be, appear to serve the purpose of keeping the government off of homeschoolers' backs. Perhaps the idea of the 45 credits (I believe that's quarter credits- about the same as 30 semester credits?) is that since the law puts so much of the responsibility for following it on the parents of homeschoolers, with minimal (no) oversight, that responsibility can be reasonably assumed to be something someone who has been to college for a year can handle (to know and follow the law), and otherwise the parents can take a course specifically about homeschooling (which must cover the law) and so be assumed to be able to follow the laws and not need oversight.

Am I defending the law? >shrug< Not really- I don't know what anyone was actually thinking when they wrote it, and my personal philosophy condemns compulsory schooling in the first place and I certainly don't feel the government has a place in granting me the right to raise and educate my children.
post #15 of 16
Lydia,
nak, when we filled out the paperwork DH meets the credit requirement so he signed the paperwork. We were never asked for a transcript or anything. there is a local group (religious) that meets once a month that would "qualify" you. I went once but never again, I'll pm you if you want details but if you HAD to do something that is a free option.

Here is the list of requirements for WA:
# Have earned 45 quarter units of college level credit.
# Attend a Parent Qualifying Course. This is highly recommended even if you are already qualified to homeschool.
# Work with a certified teacher who meets with your student on the average of an hour a week.
# Be deemed sufficiently qualified to provide home-based instruction by the superintendent of your local school district.

here is a link with good info
http://www.washhomeschool.org/whoLaw.html#qual

list of qualifying courses if you end up needing that:
http://www.washhomeschool.org/whoQualify.html
post #16 of 16
If you have gone to school for a year, I would just not worry about it. They can't really ask for transcripts from you, they can't
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