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post #41 of 48
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I am making myself SICK being perfect right now! I haven't even gotten dressed yet today! I'm clattering away on this keyboard in with a towel on my head, another one on my body, and it's almost 2 PM on Sunday! My dd is painting a ceramic (okay, setting that up for her today falls under "perfect mom" category), but we're both STARVING for lunch! NOT perfect! Oh man, she has painted her whole hand, front and back, marine blue. Like Blue Man Group... must save house before blue hand makes a mess....

VF... she just coated her other hand with it...
ROFLMAO... too funny Been there, done that (funny... I believe it was also with blue paint when my son did the same thing recently!)
post #42 of 48
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UNbelievable. I mean, really. People say these things??? :

I often have a related, but different problem. People telling me how great my daughter is. It gets extremely awkward and makes me uncomfortable for many, many reasons. I know they are probably well-intentioned, but it sometimes comes across as insecurity on their parts, too. It's just...icky.

I have to say, my daughter is ahead PHYSICALLY, but verbally, she's behind. No doubt about. And there's a family history of late speaking...whenever people say how amazed they are that she can do "X" at "Y" months, I always feel compelled to cheerfully chirp up, "Oh, but she's way behind verbally"...I don't know how to describe it.
post #43 of 48
God, that SNL skit's hilarious. "And I lost 700 pounds...in four hours...so...."

I completely love job-grabbing competitive mothers. I'm single, working, school, whole schmear. You want to do double-duty on the playground construction committee, knock yourself out, I'm sure you'll do a terrific job.

No doubt there are ultra-competitive mommies around here, but somehow I'm either not running into them or am oblivious. I'm not sure what the benchmarks are for 3-year-olds but am guessing that if dd falls off the tables some kindly freaked-out teacher will alert me. Meanwhile I'm mostly dismayed that she's not reading yet, because I was at 2, and she's almost 4, and still no books. Otoh I'm aware that this is nuts and it's not necessary for her to be reading yet. I also kind of wish she'd stop walking on her toes like a faun, but it is slowly stopping, and I've already checked it out and it's not a major problem. The fakey-girly-social talk also bugs me, but who knows, maybe it'll help her.

My sense, frankly, is that the competition stuff is something mothers worry about when they've got lots and lots of time to worry about such things. I have a very nice friend who's SAH with 3 kids, and she worries about these things. The other day she asked me what dd was doing for the summer, and I just looked blankly at her. There are no summer internships in Europe for 3-year-olds, as far as I'm aware. No horseback riding camps. My plans, as far as I have any beyond "make a living, have a vacation, and prep for next semester", are to play & garden in the backyard with dd more, take a few trips, and take her to her hippie daycare to play in the dirt/sandpit with her friends. It turns out my friend was talking about the zillion kinds of lessons there are. Which is great, and actually after she told me about one of the things I signed dd up for it, sounds like fun.

The thing is she's apologetic talking about these things sometimes, and I'm slowly realizing she's afraid she might be offending me, according to some mom-competition code I'm unaware of. I should probably tell her she'd have to kick me harder, somehow. I imagine all of our kids will do very well in life. I think the part I'm missing here is understanding what the prize is.
post #44 of 48
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My sense, frankly, is that the competition stuff is something mothers worry about when they've got lots and lots of time to worry about such things. I have a very nice friend who's SAH with 3 kids, and she worries about these things. The other day she asked me what dd was doing for the summer, and I just looked blankly at her. There are no summer internships in Europe for 3-year-olds, as far as I'm aware. No horseback riding camps. My plans, as far as I have any beyond "make a living, have a vacation, and prep for next semester", are to play & garden in the backyard with dd more, take a few trips, and take her to her hippie daycare to play in the dirt/sandpit with her friends. It turns out my friend was talking about the zillion kinds of lessons there are. Which is great, and actually after she told me about one of the things I signed dd up for it, sounds like fun.

The thing is she's apologetic talking about these things sometimes, and I'm slowly realizing she's afraid she might be offending me, according to some mom-competition code I'm unaware of. I should probably tell her she'd have to kick me harder, somehow. I imagine all of our kids will do very well in life. I think the part I'm missing here is understanding what the prize is.
I think you are just lucky enough that you haven't run into people like this yet.
I do not Have "Lots and lots of time" to worry about other moms being competitive. And I doubt that the other moms who posted here do either.
I SAHM with my son and I run a business, and I am pregnant.

Believe me, once you come across one of these moms then you will see what this thread is about. There is no way you can overlook what they are doing. It is like a personality disorder or something...it is truly strange!

We aren't talking about overachievers or control freaks...these women are a breed all of their own.
post #45 of 48
They're not always the Moms who boast their kids are superior. Sometimes, they're the Moms that don't want anyone's kid to do anything better than their own. So they pay a LOT of attention to other people's kids (who can keep up with that??), they ask probing questions and they might even follow up a probing/skill-based question with, "When is his birthday again?" to gauge what the age gap is. If they perceive that your child does something that their child does not yet do, they sometimes give a veiled put-down like, "We really feel that children should be playing."

I have to say that once I stopped exclusively hanging out with Moms of kids age 4ish and under, that I stopped running into these people. We've had a great experience with our homeschool group and since the ages vary so widely, I don't think anyone could effectively compete tit-for-tat even if they wanted to. I feel fortunate that I've met such awesome, relaxed Moms rather than the high-strung Gymboree types in my past.
post #46 of 48
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ROFLMAO... too funny Been there, done that (funny... I believe it was also with blue paint when my son did the same thing recently!)
One of my kids did the "Blue Man Group" hands too
post #47 of 48
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You're not going to cure or be able to one-up answer these type of folks. It only feeds their enjoyment, IME. The only things you can control are your reaction, to a lesser degree your presence, and how you think of them (friends/acquaintances/outsiders/ect).
I think that's really important, so it bears repeating...
The only thing we control is ourselves, and barely, somtimes...

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Originally Posted by teachma View Post
UNbelievable. I mean, really. People say these things??? :

I often have a related, but different problem. People telling me how great my daughter is. It gets extremely awkward and makes me uncomfortable for many, many reasons. I know they are probably well-intentioned, but it sometimes comes across as insecurity on their parts, too. It's just...icky.
I just ran the gambit on the emotional spectrum in this thread... Started out thinking "I am glad I don't have these interactions." Went on reading and came to think "Maybe I don't have these interactions because I'm the one that seems like she's being competetive, and one-upping... I do always like to chime in on any topic that's being discussed. I am very proud of my very awesome dd. I do get very excited and animated. Hmmm..." Then I read that and that is something that I can relate to... I think there is a flip side to this competetive thing, that ought to be noted here... The "Underdog Complex" that some moms have espoused to me, that comes across when they relate how "Wow!" dd is... "I thought she was a lot older, my dc can't do that yet." I get this from a relative whose dc is close in age to dd. "You really should get her into x, y, z class/program, etc... we did. Even tho OUR dc isn't as blah blah blah as Dd, they'll get all the chances in the world and maybe catch up, someday." Arg! Spare me! Kids have differnet personalities, lives, developmental rates, etc...

Mind, I'm not trying to derail from the topic, nor detract from the heat some folks have had to, and in some cases still have to take from so-called friends and/or relatives that behave in the afore-mentioned competetive, mean-spirited, snide manner. That's a crappy way to feel, and on any given day, I'm sure it feels a lot crappier than just hearing how great your kid is a little much, from folks who need to focus more on the awesomeness of their own children than they do on someone else's.

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Originally Posted by Kivgaen View Post
...they could just be totally blinded by love for their own children that they are totally self-centered and completely and utterly oblivious to anything else that goes on around them. Who can blame them, really? Having children is such a life changing experience and your children become your world -- who among us don't look at our own kids and think they are better, smarter, prettier, more polite, better behaved, etc. then someone elses kids, at least in some aspect? We all are bias towards our own children in one way or another.
I thought this was compelling, too, because, as I mentioned above, I wonder if I'm ever perceived in this light... So I called my best friend, just now, whom I have known for 25 out of 31 years. I asked her, "Do I ever make you feel like I'm trying to one-up you?" She replied, "You've always had a little of that, I think its part of your genetic make-up..." Abashed, I asked, "Really? Do you, now, ever leave interactions with me feeling badly, or like I was tying to place myself above you, or make you feel less than me??" "No!" she said, sounding surprised, "You've gotten really good about looking at others and how you relate to them... Where is this coming from?" I told her about this thread... she laughed, and said "Well, you don't do that... People naturally compare everything to everything... in work, in school, in families, we compare things to like things and look for contrast... It's what we do." I asked her, "So, do you think the people who say they don't compare are lying?" She again said, "No!" and went on to say, "I think in some area of anyone's life, we compare something to something else... and many people do it with their kids because from birth on, they're kids' development is guaged against, what? Other kids. It's normal, it doesn't mean it's right..."
And I agree with that... it's normal, but it doesn't mean it's right.... nor natural. And maybe these moms who crazily can't be talked to about anything much less this behavior are reacting in heightened, super-sensitive response to that pressure that's been applied from the outside entities (like docs, schools, in-laws).

Feel bad for them, and keep your guard up...


Crazy people never think they're crazy... and competitive one-uppers will debate and compete to show you how non-competitive they are... Much to the aggrevation of you who are bombarded by their need for attention and validation.
post #48 of 48

Another Gymboree Girl

Hey there, I also can add that I am in Gymboree class wtih my 2 year old and weekly get to hear the oh-so-exciting updates on all the other children there. In particular, there are 4 other children that I always get to hear about. Mind you, I do not mind all that much hearing about their spectacular vocabularies and mind-blowing acrobatics; however, I do get tired of hearing about how cute they look in their new outfits and how they never wore this outfit before and how they have so much stuff. That's when I start getting irritated. DUDE, how many clothes does your 2 year old need? They don't care if they are naked or not. Anyhow, I digress. Just to answer the OP, yes, I deal with competitive parents every day and usually it is because the parent is either

A) Boring, {and thus has nothing else to talk about}

or

B) Insecure.

or

C) Really believes they gave birth to Einstein.
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