Originally Posted by pitter_patter
If you are relying on "welfare" to stay at home with your children, that means you actually cannot afford to stay home. I'm sure there are millions of mamas who would LOVE to SAH but it would mean going on public assistance and their pride and morals will not allow it.
Hi... I'm a SAH Welfare Queen with questionable morals, and no pride... apparently. I'm also the wife of a small business owner, and a part-time night-student in college, on track to my PhD in clinical family/pediatric counseling for children and parents of children with special/high needs, paying for my education out of pocket some terms, as well as with $ a deceased relative left me some terms, which is about to run out and I intend to make use of financial aid to complete that degree... should I have used that money for food instead of going to school and relying on food stamps over the winter when my dh's small auto-detailing business slows to a crawl? I also provide FREE childcare (as a former nanny and pre-school teacher) to any friend or family-member that needs back-up any day or night of the week that I can, so I frequently have a (small
) house full of 2-6 kids, aged 18 mo-6yrs. I feed them when they're here, gladly. Their moms may bring stuff for them, may not. It's a wash... we all help each other out, whenever we can. In addition, I'm a math tutor (also free) for some women from my class, and 2 teenaged boys who happen to be taking the same class I'm in. AND I provide free guided meditation, and facilitate group meditations, also for free. I consider everything I do as a SERVICE to the community... the community at large. But you know, whatever... questionable morals, I guess.
I do have a very good frined who charges an arm and a leg for child care, in her home... SAH with her little ones and has been a nanny and dcp for 15 years, her two are 4 and 1. She constantly complains about how they don't have enough to get new clothes for her kids, or do other basic things, like buy house hold cleansers and CLEAN. But out of what she calls PRIDE
she won't apply for assistance. So, should I NOT
be proud, then? Since I use food stamps? I paid into this system for the greater half of my life, thus far... am I not entitled to make use of these services?
There is enough to go around... this is an affluent society with NO excuse for allowing people to go hungry and go without clothes shelter and education.
This comes down to the age-old battle of socialism versus capitolism. Neither is perfect, both have advantages and disadvantages. This is NOT a question of moral fiber or pride...
Originally Posted by brittneyscott
How is it right for them to sit at home with everything given to them while the rest of us have to bust our butts to make ends meet? Yeah I guess we could quit our jobs and sit at home taking advantage of the freebies but we do have morals. I understand some people need help for short term needs that's okay but don't sit at home abusing the system.
Have you actually ever walked in any of these people's shoes? Who are YOU
to determine that another is "just sitting at home"?? How do you know there aren't a vast majority of people struggling to make it out of needing assistance? And how deeply does it affect you, really, if a minority IS milking the system? Cuz it's not fair? It doesn't jive with your personal sense of fairness?
I don't think it's fair that there are women in Afganistan who are beaten to within an inch of their lives for being seen unveiled. I don't think it's fair that there are children in the county I live in going hungry... and children just 2 miles away, up the hill, in the same county with an array of organic nourishment and turning their noses up to food that's gonna get thrown out because they didn't want to eat it. It isn't fair that our troops are still in Iraq, and we STILL
don't know what the heck we're really doing over there.pitter_patter
, did either of you take into account that until you have experienced the scenario, you might be ignorant to how it actually
plays out? Did either of you have the same opinions about the use of financial aid for school or housing? Is it possible that financial aid, housing, food stamps, etc all are
part in parcel? We ALL pay into it. At some point, the taxes you pay benefit you... and the taxes I pay benefit me... and each the other... Isn't it splitting hairs a bit to say one is ok and the other is immoral??