Anyone specificially TTC a girl? - Page 3

[gabbyquilts]

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ticker/192191/ttc.png

i wasnt planning to O til later, but i had a temp rise this AM and then ewcm. We are doing shettles method of bd a few days before O and if i am o-ing today we will just wait til next month and try again.

I am really not that good at charting, i usually dont check cf or position or anything, i just did today since i had the temp rise.

[MamasBoys]

Gabby, your link only says that you're on CD15, it doesn't give us a chart.


Okay ladies. So I've been taking 2 AZO caplets in the morning between 7-8AM. I've been checking the pH of my urine 3x per day. (Once with my 2nd pee of the morning, once around lunchtime, and once around bed.) My afternoon and night pees are in the correct range (between 5-6) but my morning one is ALWAYS high, around 7. This seems weird, since I've just taken the cranberry. Shouldn't it be doing the opposite? Do you think it's just because my pee is so concentrated in the morning? Tomorrow I'm going to wait to take the cranberry until after I test my 2nd pee. I guess that might help.

[Gendenwitha]

Where were all you people 2 years ago? I think I got one response when I asked this question then.

First question: bd and ewcm? cm is cervical mucus I assume, but what is ew?
bd is sex I assume?

So if I understand it right the Shettles method and O+12 method are exact opposites of each other? We tried for several months with Shettles, which was several days before O. But since I was really regular cycles I just used the calendar method instead of serious charting like I should have.

Are there any stats on which works better, or does it depend on the person?

The month I got preg, we had both had the flu during my "fertile girl time" and by the time we had sex it was what I thought was well past my fertile time of any kind. It was just before my period was due to start. And it was just once. Should that make a difference in determining which is more likely to work for me?

(Since he was 8yrs after our other two, people would ask, "Was this a surprise or planned?" and I'd say, "Both. We were trying, but the month we bought the fewest lottery tickets was the month we won." )

[Everrgreen]

Gendenwitha - EWCM - Egg White Cervical Mucus (fertile mucus), and yes BD means sex (Baby Dance, actually).
I am using the Shettles method, I read the whole book and the science behind it makes sense so I trust it the most. It actually recommends BD 2,3, or 4 days before O. It says to start at 3 unless you are very cautious and after a couple of cycles move to 2. It also recommends other advice such as: no female orgasm, missionary position, and hot showers for DH. But timing is the most important.
When you had the flu it is possible your body postponed releasing the egg because you were sick. I think I've heard that can happen.
Have you looked at the thread on checking pH levels?

[ReneeC]

Originally Posted by Gillian28

I am using the Shettles method, I read the whole book and the science behind it makes sense so I trust it the most. It actually recommends BD 2,3, or 4 days before O. It says to start at 3 unless you are very cautious and after a couple of cycles move to 2. It also recommends other advice such as: no female orgasm, missionary position, and hot showers for DH. But timing is the most important.
Have you looked at the thread on checking pH levels?

Shettles used to recommend using lemon or vinegar douches before BD to change vaginal pH as well, because it **isn't** the timing that is most important, it's the alkalinity or acidity of your CM. Like I said before in this thread, the Shettles method relies on the fact that **most** women have more acidic CM 3-5 days before O and **most** women have alkaline EWCM. Since this is the case for **most** women, the Shettles method has basically been reduced to "Have sex 3-5 days before O if you want a girl and on the day of O if you want a boy". But Shettles actually recommends pH testing in his book as well. He just doesn't recommend using a douche anymore because of the risk of vaginal infections and his being sued! Also, the basis behind female orgasm/no female orgasm is that when a woman orgasms, it changes the pH of her vagina.

The theory of O+12 was developed by a woman who had tried the Shettles method for a girl unsuccessfully SIX times. When she BDed the day after O, she finally conceived her daughter. There is information on what she based her theory on at this site, if you're interested: http://www.in-gender.com/Gender%2DSelection/Oplus12/

The idea behind taking Cranberry or other supplements is to change the acidity/alkalinity of your CM so that it doesn't matter what day you BD. If your EWCM is acidic (between 4 and 5 pH), it will favor a girl AND increase your chances of successfully conceiving.

[Peony]

[*Isra*]

From my humble observations I've seen many more successful girls with O+12. I used Shettles for my boy and I do think he was right about doing it the day of O or day before for a boy, but Im not convinced about his theory for a girl.

[Kimmiepie]

I used Shettles for my kids.

Well, my ds1 was an oops, but the other two I did.

DD we just had sex a few days before 0 and ds we did it the day before, on the day, and the day after.

Good luck ladies!!!

If we are to ttc again, we'll be trying for a girl so this is very interesting info.

[*Isra*]

Originally Posted by Kimmiepie

I used Shettles for my kids.

Well, my ds1 was an oops, but the other two I did.

DD we just had sex a few days before 0 and ds we did it the day before, on the day, and the day after.

Good luck ladies!!!

If we are to ttc again, we'll be trying for a girl so this is very interesting info.

This is getting more and more confusing...: What to do..what to do!

[Everrgreen]

In response to ReneeC - I agree that pH has a part to play but I also think timing has a big part. Both Shettles and O-12 are mainly about timing (even though they are opposite) so I would say it is the most important aspect. The reasoning behind Shettles timing is that female sperm are more able to hang around (regardless of pH). Male sperm may win the race, but if you don't ovulate for a day or two they will die off and female sperm will be left.
I think for most women a combination of lowering the pH and timing BDing for 2 to 3 days before Oing would be the best. In my personal opinion I don't understand the science behind O-12, from what I have read BDing at this point will allow the fast male sperm to reach the egg first. Also, there is a very short window after ovulation where fertilization can occur.
I'm just giving my opinion, please don't beat me up over it

[Tellera]

I've been following this thread...

I was sure we were having a girl with our DS, we only BD twice that month, and only once anywhere near O. I actually didn't think I'd get pregnant. From both O pain and u/s dating, we BD FIVE days prior to O. And I got a boy. And we weren't all that creative during BD. And I eat a lot of cheese and yogurt. But, I didn't take any cranberry. Not that I didn't want a boy, but I just thought a lot pointed to girl. I am actually thrilled that I had my boy first.

I'm debating trying for a girl next time. I think that if we do, I'll do O + 12 and cranberry, based on my history with DS.

hmm. hmm. hmm. I also think I'm out of my freaking head to even be thinking about another baby. One is keeping me nutty enough.

[MamasBoys]

Originally Posted by *Isra*

From my humble observations I've seen many more successful girls with O+12. I used Shettles for my boy and I do think he was right about doing it the day of O or day before for a boy, but Im not convinced about his theory for a girl.

Does the O+12 theory require that you BD 12 hours after the hour of ovulation? If so, that seems really unlikely. Even people I know who have been using NFP for years say that they have either never (or only a few times) known the hour of ovulation.

[Kimmiepie]

How in the heck do you figure out what time you ovulate? :

[*Isra*]

Originally Posted by MamasBoys

Does the O+12 theory require that you BD 12 hours after the hour of ovulation? If so, that seems really unlikely. Even people I know who have been using NFP for years say that they have either never (or only a few times) known the hour of ovulation.

I don't believe you have to know the exact hour you O, and it's not 12 hours on the dot. Many women I've read about use OPKs morning and evening around the time they suspect O and as soon as it turns positive they start counting from there. There is a mama on MDC that said she did O+12 more at the 20 hr mark, and Ive read many doing it from 8hrs. Its anywhere from 8-20. Not an exact science....but what is?

[MamasBoys]

Originally Posted by *Isra*

Many women I've read about use OPKs morning and evening around the time they suspect O and as soon as it turns positive they start counting from there.

This seems like it would be really risky, considering that as soon as you see a positive sign on the OPK, it is indicating that ovulation will happen in 12-36 hours.

[Faithful Mommy]

: OMG!! How does anyone keep up around here???? My dh officially thinks I'm nuts!! I have put together a "OPERATION BABYGIRL" chart and everything!! I haven't started charting or all of the other FUN stuff but I'm writing down everything I'm learning!! I want a girl reeeeally bad... I have 3 boys!!!!! I think I'm using every darn method and putting them to work all together!! Chinese lunar says my soonest month is April (if I wait till I'm 28). Oh Lordy!! Maybe I have lost my mind??????

[MamasBoys]

Originally Posted by Faithful Mommy

Chinese lunar says my soonest month is April (if I wait till I'm 28). Oh Lordy!! Maybe I have lost my mind??????

I am using the Chinese birth calendar too, and mine shows that if you're 27, you could conceive a girl in July, August or October.

My DH doesn't think I'm crazy, but he thinks we should "leave it up to chance." I'm like "hey I tried that method three times and obviously chance isn't on my side!"

[Faithful Mommy]

Originally Posted by MamasBoys

I am using the Chinese birth calendar too, and mine shows that if you're 27, you could conceive a girl in July, August or October.

My DH doesn't think I'm crazy, but he thinks we should "leave it up to chance." I'm like "hey I tried that method three times and obviously chance isn't on my side!"

Yes, I know about those months as well but I want my little guy to be a bit older and also I'm in school (working into the RN program) and I want to get a couple more classes out of the way I turn 28 on 10-12

My hubby doesn't reeeeeally think I'm crazy...... I Think???? He's actually all for all the tricks. He's probably tired of me blaming HIM everytime we hear.......... "IT'S A BOY"!!!! lol

I noticed your kids ages....... we have a bit in common in that area!! My boys are 11, 10, and then we waited forever to have our little guy which is 14 months My first 2 are 13 months apart..... how about yours???

[adtake]

Originally Posted by MamasBoys

I also am a huge dairy eater and have conceived three boys so I don't buy it either...

I'm the opposite...very little dairy and 3 boys..


So I have a question about the Shettles book. I read one a while back that seems to talk alot about what everyone was saying....then I read in the back under breastfeeding. It clearly stated that the methons in the book will not work while breastfeeding. Any thoughts? I am still nursing. I go back and forth between wanting a girl or another boy.

[MamasBoys]

Originally Posted by Faithful Mommy

I noticed your kids ages....... we have a bit in common in that area!! My boys are 11, 10, and then we waited forever to have our little guy which is 14 months My first 2 are 13 months apart..... how about yours???

Holy cow, you started YOUNG! I did too, but not *that* young! I had my first when I was 19 and my second came along 18 months later. The first two were unplanned pregnancies and I totally wasn't ready for them. We waited six years until we really were ready to have kids. My youngest is 18 months now. It's weird because it almost feels like we have two sets of kids. The last two are the ones that were lucky enough to get us when we knew what we were doing!