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I spoke up in my church today...  

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Well I spoke up in my Unitarian Church today, during a period called Joys and Sorrows where members can speak to the whole congregation.
All morning and during the entire walk to church the circumcision of my boys was on my mind, making me cry, and I needed some peace, so when I arrived I wrote these words down:

"I am mourning the loss of both my sons' foreskins. The anger, resentment, and guilt that I feel torture me. I wish that I could go back and make different decisions. I hope someday my boys will forgive me. And I wish that I could find some peace today."


When it was my turn to speak. I started to shake and tear up and the words wouldn't come. So I handed the slip of paper to the reverend standing next to me and said "can you read this." So he did, quite clearly, while I stood and cried.

After the service the comments were mixed. Some; in fact most, were supportive and comforting and encouraged me to not beat myself up, and asked good questions. Some were curious. One older lady said isn't it good for cleanliness and preventing cancer? Some were defensive. Two different men tried to be encouraging by telling me that at least I have given my boys some protection from HIV/AIDS by having them circumcised. They didn't seem to listen when I said that is not true. They went on to try to cite some research in Africa An older lady first asked me "Does this have anything to do with being anti-Jewish?" : I told her it has nothing to do with that. Then she went on to tell me that she has a background in psychology and that I should never let my boys feel my pain and sorrow from doing this and that I should NOT tell them that I made a mistake. What kind of f-ing psychology is that!

But the good that came out of this was that I sparked some conversation. The nursery director overhead someone trying to comfort me about it being a cultural thing and asked what we were talking about. Although she had circumcised her 4 year old, she was VERY open to new information. She said she kind of felt like it wasn't hers to take away, but that they did it because Daddy was circ-ed, but that now she always listens to new info for the sake of being a good mom.

If this opened up the issue in the minds of at least a few people...and maybe in the future, it will indirectly protect one more baby's foreskin...then that thought brings me peace
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post #3 of 29
I hope you feel some closure after sharing your feelings with the congregation
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I am glad you spoke up. *HUG*
post #7 of 29
I'm glad you "got it out", for your sake, and hopefully it will make a difference for those who heard it.

I grew up in a Unitarian church, and you would think people who value thinking and human rights so much would be a little more enlightened than some of the comments indicate. But it just goes to show how generally the misinformation and unquestioning beliefs are entrenched in our culture.

Hope you can continue to educate and engage people over there with the issue. As painful as it is to be in a position of regretting the circumcision of your sons, you will speak with a lot of authority for your experience, and maybe put up a warning light for some other pregnant people there to research it, BEFORE it's too late.

Hugs, Gillian
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Originally Posted by vaughnmama View Post
But the good that came out of this was that I sparked some conversation.
This is great! Getting people to think about what they are doing is the first step to stopping it. I think it was very brave of you to turn your own experience into something that could save other boys in the future.
post #9 of 29
Reading this made me all teary. Thank you for having the courage to share this with your congregation, and us.

Jen
post #10 of 29
Wow-you should be really proud of yourself AND feel a touch of healing, no? Peace to you mama-that was wonderful.....
post #11 of 29
that was very brave of you. i hope that it was healing for you and you find peace.

post #12 of 29
That made me teary-eyed, too.
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mama
post #14 of 29
Wow, what a powerful post.

The reverend's compassionate reading for you, and the types of questions and comments you entertained afterward, kind of buzzed my adrenaline a little. You definitely opened people's minds to the possibility that there's an "issue" there.

The nursery exchange sounds so sweet. What an open and honest person, and a good fit for nursery director!

I'm sorry your regret was weighing so heavily on you, and I hope sharing your grief really helped with some healing. And thank you so much for sharing your story here.
post #15 of 29
You made my day by sharing this. Thank you.
post #16 of 29
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Thank you all so much for encouraging me and giving me a pat on the back. Truly, it means SO much to have others understand the emotions involved. I know I am doing the right thing by sharing my thoughts and stories and educating myself and others. However, it seems to be driving a wedge in my marriage. While my hubby has said he regrets the circumcisions, he never (or hardly ever) shows any emotion about the issue. He doesn't give me nearly the amount of encouragement or thoughtfulness that I want from him. I think the force of my conviction now is intimidating him and maybe he thinks I'm going to far. The other night when I was staying up late reading on the topic, he muttered, "this is crazy, this is nuts" which made me so angry. And tonight I was pressing him to tell me why he never talks to me, and he said, "I don't know...it feels like you are changing, and I'm not." (I can see that, I am becoming more assertive.) Circumcision/inactivism is not the only source of stress in our relationship, but I think its becoming a big one. (Oh, yeah, and I should mention our almost complete lack of sex life...we could probably link that to circ on a few levels too...like his insecurities & my resentment over him talking me into cutting our youngest.)

I will give him one thing though...I do need to get off the computer and go to bed.
post #17 of 29
You get the biggest hug in the whole-wide-world from me.


Way to go.
post #18 of 29
Nobody on here will ever tell you that you are nuts or going overboard. I understand. Thanks for sharing.
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My husband use to think that I was going a little overboard too when I first started really looking into this. He particularly was uncomfortable when I would share what I was learning with him- I think it made him have to look at what was done to him, and he was feeling insecure about it. Eventually I learned not to press him about it- I just shared little bits of what I was learning- and he as come around. Now he supports my views, and even brought up circumcision with a coworker when he found up she was pregnant and had circumcised her 2 boys (not too forcefully- basically just mentioned that ours were intact because "we" don't believe in circumcision, but its a start!).
Could there be some guilt issues for your husband regarding circumcising your youngest? Or some insecurities that (like most men who are circumcised) he is unwilling to explore?
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