Originally Posted by cristina47454
Max, I would be very interested in knowing what conclusions are drawn from birth history. Would you mind expanding? I'm a bit of a "birth junkie", having had two extraordinarily different experiences with each of my daughters' births (and they couldn't be more different than each other) and then becoming a birth doula for a couple of years. I hope you are still checking this post...
Hello again Cristina,
The crux of my previous post was to indicate that in Anthro terms, issues of parental relationships to children is a pretty transitory affair barely worth worrying about: for each and every one of us this
incarnation is simply yet another step on our return to a state of unrestricted spirit in the Vulcan embodiment aeons from now.
You are I think, probably under the impression that you and your kid's father made the kids all by yourselves?
Well, according to Steiner, when your child was between the last incarnation and this one, ie in the spirit world, THEY CHOSE their parents, doing so as an act to enable particular circumstances that would further their spiritual evolution toward Vulcan.
Soooooo.....the physical processes of conception, gestation and birth are really little to do with the relationship between mother and father.
Now, we have already visited the 'components' that lead to the incarnation of the complete human (physical, etheric, astral and Individual 'I') so the conception to birth process (the physical incarnation) defines any constraints places on the ability of the other aspects to incarnate fully.
Perhaps Jennifer and/or fluttermama would like to pitch in on this ( for those unfamiliar with the term, Asperger's Syndrome is the very able end of the autism continuum) during my 'training' -which I very quickly came to see as indoctrination- it was revealed that one of our autistic people made their bow following an induced labour. This meant that the physical body was forced to incarnate before the germinating etheric, astral and Individual 'I' were ready.Hence, while the physical body might be absolutely ace, one or more of the other constituents didn't have the opportunity to incarnate properly- ergo a Special Needs incarnation.
Enter Anthroposophy (which alone recognises all of this) with its 'theraputic' care..art, eurythmy, nature, wood, music et al to counteract the imbalances thereby empowering a further advancement toward spirit in the next
Assuming most of this is new to most of you, I will hope that this example serves as some indicator of all that lies behind the 'individual study' of what you consider YOUR child.
I'm just reading that back. Was that really me?
While I have done my level best to express this in plainspeak, keeping Anthrospeak to a minimum, you might care to think of all this in mainstream terms. Despite all the astral, etheric stuff, do you really see any thrust that wouldn't be found in any half-decent care centre or school?
School? Yes all this permeates Waldorf/Steiner schools too!
Some of you will have realised by now that I'm a Brit, resident in UK.
Not surprisingly it is UK sites that I'm most familiar with, so should any of you want to read a little more, ( I can't possibly put every
thing here)you might care to visit a site that the former list referred to: www.easeonline.org
For more first-hand info on what goes on in teacher training for Steiner/Waldorf education, click on the Education page.
Jennifer and fluttermama might care to visit the Special Needs page. It doesn't say a huge amount, but, so far as I am aware, it is the only English language page to at least raise some questions.
More generally, but much more heart-tuggingly, try:www.waldorfeducation.me.uk
I doubt if anyone could get to the end of page one without a lump in their throat.
I think I have posted a good deal more than my fair share over the weekend.
I'll shut up for while now.
Peace to you and yours..YOURS!