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post #21 of 40
6/12/07 at 6:41am

Breech baby tribe

OT - sorry - I just started a breech baby tribe, for those that have had and those that are expecting.

It seems there is a wealth of knowledge and experience here to be shared, stories to be told, voices to be heard and sympathetic ears to listen.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...43#post8362343

Blessed be, Sadystar x.

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post #22 of 40
6/12/07 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by Birth&Bunnies View Post
Pusing the back back up and doing a c/s happened to a mom her on MDC, read this http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=539679
OMG!!! :
post #23 of 40
6/12/07 at 5:23pm
my friend just had a breech hsptl birth. at the last min the docs freaked and wanted to do a c/s but her midwives insisted she wanted a vaginal and told the doc to get the waiver papers for her to sign. So there she was in labor signing papers (dumb docs never got them for her earlier even tho they had said earlier that it was ok). Anyway, she pushed the baby out in like 3 pushes with no tearing or episiotomy and the baby was fine. You *CAN* do it!!!
post #24 of 40
6/16/07 at 12:22am
Member of the breech baby tribe here. Just wanted to give you some at home remedies to try. Think everyone else has covered everything I would suggest.

http://gentlebirth.org/archives/breech.html#Approaches

http://www.breechbabies.com/turning.htm

http://www.beautiful-births.com/cont...es/breech.html

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&cd=25

*turn baby turn!*
post #25 of 40
6/16/07 at 2:57am
If they don't turn, oh well. It's not wrong, just less common.
post #26 of 40
6/17/07 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by Birth&Bunnies View Post
If they don't turn, oh well. It's not wrong, just less common.
Well yeah... but it's only "oh well" if you actually can find a practitioner who will catch the baby, or if you feel confident enough to go UC. It's not "oh well" if you're getting stuck with surgery that you don't need for this completely normal position.
post #27 of 40
6/17/07 at 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by Robinna View Post
Well yeah... but it's only "oh well" if you actually can find a practitioner who will catch the baby, or if you feel confident enough to go UC. It's not "oh well" if you're getting stuck with surgery that you don't need for this completely normal position.
I mean sticking to your guns, and just refusing to consent. But, I know that wouldn't work. Too many women would understandably give-in. I believe that most HB midwives will work with breech.
post #28 of 40
6/17/07 at 9:24pm
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but not everyone qualifies, or can afford, a midwife.
post #29 of 40
6/17/07 at 9:31pm
It's so wrong! as is most of OB/GYN care.
post #30 of 40
6/20/07 at 5:45pm
I'm only 26 weeks, but close enough that this baby's breech presentation is starting to annoy me, if anything. My midwife told me the hospital where we will be giving birth won't allow vaginal birth of breech in a vbac situation...what can be done? Can I refuse? I live in Montana, if that helps. And, I'm not comfortable delivering at home (would have to be UC at home).
post #31 of 40
6/20/07 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by forestrymom View Post
I'm only 26 weeks, but close enough that this baby's breech presentation is starting to annoy me, if anything. My midwife told me the hospital where we will be giving birth won't allow vaginal birth of breech in a vbac situation...what can be done? Can I refuse? I live in Montana, if that helps. And, I'm not comfortable delivering at home (would have to be UC at home).
At 26 weeks you do have LOADS of time for that baby to turn, I know you know that but said it anyway. I understand your stress!

What I don't get is why they think vbac and breech somehow compound each other. They don't. They have nothing to do with each other, they are completely separate "risks". So why, if they would normally catch a breech, they would refuse just because it's a vbac? That makes no sense.

If you're up to it, I would recommend that you ask for your MW to show you the peer-reviewed research that the policy is based on. I would be absolutely stunned if she comes up with a study, ANY study, that shows some kind of link between breech and UR, or a link between previous c/s and head entrapment of a breech baby. And if there is no such study, then there is no basis whatsoever for the policy, and I would use that as a pretty irrufutable grounds to refuse c/s.
post #32 of 40
6/22/07 at 9:55am
Thread Starter 
turn baby turn!!!!


what are some things i can do while stuck in bed to get her to turn?
post #33 of 40
6/22/07 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Emma's_Mommy View Post
turn baby turn!!!!


what are some things i can do while stuck in bed to get her to turn?
how much movement are you permitted? Do you have any limitations on position?

1st thing to do is get your hips up in the air, either on your back with several pillows under your hips, or on your chest with your bum up in the air (sort-of child's pose).

Meditate and talk to the baby; visualise shim turning head down and a smooth peaceful birth.

play music on earphones near your pubic bone or shine a light through your skin starting where he/r eyes are and moving it slowly down to where you want he/r head to be - many babies are curious about the sound or light and try to get closer to it.

massage your belly gently in the direction you want the baby to turn. They usually will do a forwards somersault more easily than a backflip.

send your baby a lot of love and reassurance. s/he may just feel better with an ear closer to your heart, and need to know it's safe to go the other way. My breech babe still loves to put her head on my heart, something my vertex baby had no particular tendency to do.

There's the frozen peas thing... you put a bag of frozen veggies against the back of the baby's head. but I didn't do that I thought it a bit mean. But it often works.
post #34 of 40
6/23/07 at 12:40am
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im pretty limited in movement i cant put any weight on my left foot.....i will keep my hips proped up as much as i can stand, and hunt down a flashlight!


she still does flips all day but settles in a breech position....i just hope that changes before she gets stuck that way!
post #35 of 40
6/23/07 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by Robinna View Post
There's the frozen peas thing... you put a bag of frozen veggies against the back of the baby's head. but I didn't do that I thought it a bit mean. But it often works.
Please don´t do it.....I did, it didn´t work and I feel like the world´s worst mother for doing it! I mean, I wouldn´t hold a cold object on DD´s head now - WTH was I thinking! I´ve apologised so many times.....
post #36 of 40
6/23/07 at 2:18pm
oh jeez, a bag of cold peas through a belly, and uterus on a fetuses head is NOT torture.... nothing to beat yourself up about mama.

Erika. have you tried a slant board? some accupuncture? moxibuxtion(sp?)

you CAN have your baby breech. yes you can mama! just dont rush right into the hospital at the first sign of labor.
labor at home till you get pushy, then head in.
you will do beautifully
post #37 of 40
6/23/07 at 9:05pm
Try anything, try visualizing your baby turning when you are laying down trying to go to sleep at night. This worked for me (I'm 34 weeks), he's no longer standing on top of my bladder! :

Here is a website that I checked, they have a lot of suggestions if you haven't seen it already: http://gentlebirth.org/archives/breech.html#Chest

BTW, in the book I bought "Emergency Childbirth" by Dr White, they discuss breech birth, and funny how they don't teach that anymore, much easier (and can bill insurance more money) to do a c section than be skilled in breech births. Plus they are afraid of malpractice...never mind c sections seem pretty risky to mom and baby! :

Good luck! I hope your baby turns for you! I'm sending good vibes right now!
post #38 of 40
6/24/07 at 12:54am
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Originally Posted by AddysMama View Post

you CAN have your baby breech. yes you can mama! just dont rush right into the hospital at the first sign of labor.
labor at home till you get pushy, then head in.
you will do beautifully
i'm being induced early for a medical reason (mine not baby's) so thats not an option....but if i do go into labor first i will be staying at home until the pain becomes too much to handle or i feel pushy (whichever comes first!)
post #39 of 40
6/24/07 at 1:10am
cholestasis or toxemia? i didnt know you were ill
post #40 of 40
6/24/07 at 6:17pm
Thread Starter 
its something i had before pregnancy....a problem with my bladder....which is very painful right about now!!

3 more weeks!
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