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Long story short, we are moving into a house that is being provided by my DH's job and it has almost all 2 prong old style outlets that need to be replaced. They are balking at replacing them saying it is a huge job. I think, basically, if the grounding wiring is there it is no big deal and if it is not, then it is a big deal. There are some 3 prong outlets in the house as of now which leads me to believe the wiring is there, but we don't know for sure. How much would it cost to add the wiring and change the outlets? It is a 3 bedroom house with 2 baths.
Thanks!
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If the wiring is sufficient, it's not hard to do. If the wiring isn't sufficient, it's a pricy job for a professional.

Our house was wired (properly) with conduit. We replaced the receptacles ourselves. Cost was less than 30 bucks for the whole house.
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To change the wiring would be a huge deal.

I have lived in some houses that have the 3 prong outlets but they weren't grounded as it was old wiring.

Our last house had old wiring. No problems.

We did replace all the wiring when we gutted our bedroom. We also added more outlets as old houses just seem to have one or two outlets per room.
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It's a big job -- based on your wall paper pictues (that looked like a 20's kitchen) I'd guess that you have the old knob and tube wiring which doesn't have any grounding whatsoever.
When we totally re-did the wire in our 20's bungalow, we found that only 2 outlets were wired correctly. So glad the house never burned down!
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Yes, replacing wiring is a big deal. Replacing the outlets, while time-consuming is easy.
Take one off and see if you have a ground wire-or better, check near your service panels to see if your house is grounded. There would be either a thick bare copper wire going from a service panel to a copper bar hammered into the ground and/or a thick copper bare wire going to and clamped to a water pipe (it is typically visible, but if not, you may have to take the cover off of the panel to see if it is in there).
I would be less worried about the grounding being absent than I would be about old wires. Old (tube and knob-yikes) wires do not have the insulation that new wires have and that means if lots of electricity is going through, it could get hot. Now, don't freak out. If you haven't had a problem, more than likely, you won't. Just be aware of what you plug in and where. Kitchen appliances, and heaters pull a lot of juice. Figure out which fuses or breakers are for which circuits (keep in mind that lots of plugs could be on one circuit-turn off of a breaker or pull a fuse and see what goes off -use a tester or a lamp to see which plugs go off and go through all of them) and spread your biggest loads out over many breakers.
If you need a ground (say your stereo is buzzing-actually that could be a dimmer switch on the same circuit, try a different one), you could, like we have done, add a ground wire just for that plug. I can tell you how.
Don't worry too much. I am an electrician and my house is not grounded. Well, actually, if you have electricty working, you are technically grounded (well, bonded-sort of the same). The other ground is for extra, extra safety (and preferable, certainly). You do have fuses or breakers.
Two things to watch for-too much juice for old wires )easy to fix like I stated above), or loose wires causing sparks. When you take off a few outlets, you will see the workmanship (this problem not really a big deal, as a big spark will blow a fuse or trip the breaker). This is easy to fix, too-just tighten the wires. it is not a common problem.
I am happy to answer more questions-ask away.
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OT: littlehawksmom- are you with IBEW?
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Originally Posted by 2busy2clean View Post
It's a big job -- based on your wall paper pictues (that looked like a 20's kitchen) I'd guess that you have the old knob and tube wiring which doesn't have any grounding whatsoever.
Yes, if you have only 2 wires in the wall, they have to run a ground wire to nearby plumbing ... expensive!

In a 1959 house we "got lucky". It had grounded wiring (3 wires) going to 2-prong outlets. Upgrade was an easy DIY.

In a 1949 house, it was 2-strand wiring and upgrade was more costly.

There is a low cost electrical tester that plugs into 3-prong outlets. If you have ANY 3-prong outlets that fail on this, you can reasonably demand that they be fixed, as an ungrounded or mis-wired 3-prong outlet is a safety hazard.
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mamma mia
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