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post #1 of 27
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...or at least until you can afford a new one. I've been stressing lately, because I have a ford windstar with over 130,000 miles on it, and if it were to break any time soon, the only thing I could purchase with my budget might be a package of knock-off matchbox cars...from the dollar store.

I just got the oil changed, and they gave me a sticker about when to do it again....

: ...but what else do I need to do? I've never been in charge of car maintenance before.
post #2 of 27
Your post actually is making me feel better, our Windstar only has 47000 on it and I'm constantly worried it's just going to stop running. We seem to have all sorts of little problems that keep cropping up. It's nice to know one can make it that long.
post #3 of 27
Your auto manufacturer has a recommended maintenance schedule. If you don't have the owner's manual, look online for it. Also, you can go read up in owner's forums online (at places like edmunds.com) to see what other people have gone through with their Windstars. That can help you know what to prevent/look for.
post #4 of 27
Defintely follow the reccomended maintanance schedule...a lot of times it's either in the manual, or in a seperate folder.

I also reccomend investing in a Chilton Manual for the car...NOT a Haynes. Yes, it's going to be a little more pricy, but when I was first married and I needed an oil change, DH went out and bought me the Chillton, 5 qrts of oil, and a filter. Told me to do it. (Not in a mean way, and when I did have a question he would certainly help)

And I know a lot of people think it's too hard, or too much, etc. But it's really not. And this is coming from the girl who could never change her bicycle tire. I have replaced a radiator, an alternator, 2 timing chains, done at least 30 oil changes, transmission and engine flush, a CV joint, and 2 clutch/pressure plates. The Chilton is SO easy to follow. You'd be surprised at how many repairs are $30 for the part and $600 for labor.

He also reccomends checking all your fluid levels every time you fill up. (Oil, coolant, transmission, and brake) Sounds corny, but he sees a lot of cars that would be just fine if someone didn't run it with no coolant or oil.

And of course being gentle on it is the best preventive maintance. No hot rodding it, slowly accelerating, no hard braking, no contstantly riding the "threshold" of the transmission, etc...(on the transmission note, for instance if riding 50mph you feel the car switching gears constantly move it up or down 5mph)

Steph
post #5 of 27
Just wanted to say I'm in the same boat, only my windstar has 140k! Maybe we can go halfsies on some genuine hot wheels?
post #6 of 27
Be sure you do the recommended maintenance by a trustworthy mechanic who knows what he/she is doing!

My husband is a mechanic and one of his frequent complaints and problems is when people don't do their maintenance as frequently as they should and then jobs that should take, say 2 hours have been known to take 4 or more.
Sometimes the bolt is seized (sp?) and either breaks off or has to be removed forcefully which can then cause other damage.

The best thing to do is be regular about maintenance! Be sure to have your oil checked and changed regularly and do the maintenance, brakes, transmission, etc.

A good mechanic will be able to tell what the common problems are on certain models on cars (your Windstar for example) and give you a heads-up on how often you'll need to have these parts replaced.
post #7 of 27
The very best thing you can do is to change the oil (and filter) regularly! My grandpa says gas is optional but keep that oil fresh and full!
Changing the air filter helps too, especially if you live in a dusty area. Just regularly make sure the other fluids are full, including oil, water, power steering, brake fluid in the clutch, tranny fluids, etc. Same thing pp mentioned basically. If you don't check them every time you fill up, at least check them every time you plan to drive more than "whatever" miles. I always check them before I make a 45 mile trip, but I don't check them everytime I go 4 miles to work, kwim?

Check your belts, they are made of rubber and they get dry, cracked and rotted. The main drive belt is in the front right behind the radiator and it's MUCH easier to replace as it gets old rather than having it break on the road somewhere. Same thing with radiator hoses, they are rubber and you can tell if they are getting very bad. Easier to replace at home than in the parking lot somewhere.

If you don't flush the radiator (my dad says it's not always necessary) you need to add some kind of protective solution - sold near the antifreeze - every year or so to protect the water pump. It's kindof like oil for the cooling system. Maybe someone else knows the name of the stuff??? I just know it's in a small bottle and the same brand as the regular antifreeze. You can just drain out a small amount of the old water/antifreeze, add the protectant stuff, after you run the car be sure to make sure to check that it's filled back up with water because sometimes it will get an air bubble.

Make sure your tires stay aired up and in good condition. If they start deflating slowly (needing some air every week or so) it's time to replace them, even if there's still good tred. Being gentle on your brakes makes them last a whole lot longer but obviously get them checked out every year or so. Mine have been fine for about 4 years, but it totally depends on your driving.

There is always that pesty alternator and battery. You should just plan on replacing the battery and alternator. Say you have a "5 year battery" I'd save up the money for a new one when it's 4 years old, coz it's on it's last leg by then. I replaced my alternator before it went bad, so no real tips there except that the "core charge" for an alternator is $50 so you want to BE SURE to take the old one back with the receipt and get that refunded. If you replace the battery, consider replacing the cables as well - especially if they look bad. I know two people that got new batteries installed and no one even told them that their cables were so corooded. I had to replace DH's cables in the Wal-Mart parking lot, and my neighbor's in the snow in our apartment parking lot. A new battery doesn't do any good if the cables are corroded to bits.

You are supposed to replace the spark plugs and wires every so often, but my dad said it's not major important. When one goes bad, it just happens, and you can just replace them all at one time. Or you can check the schedule in the books or with your mechanic.

Eventually you will have to replace a fuel filter. Simple, inexpensive part, but get someone who knows about it to do the work because the fuel line is pressurized. There are small amounts of water and contaminants in gasoline, and they will clog up the fuel filter with time. The car gets kindof sluggish, doesn't get fuel as well so it doesn't accelerate as well, etc. I replaced mine after about 3 years. My family also uses some kind of gas cleaner (like HEET brand) pretty often when the weather is wet. I like to use some Lucas brand carbon-removing fuel treatment once in a while to clean the engine.

My mom's Dodge minivan lasted well over 200k miles (and still runs but it's not the main car anymore), and my Ford Ranger is on about 250k so there is hope. The problem is that around 150k things wear out, after you replace a bunch of things you're high rolling again for a while
post #8 of 27
Ditto Lucas...we use it w/ oil changes, and we also use their transmission products.

On the checking at every fill-up, thats about 300-350 miles in our car, and our cars are both 10+ years old. Obviously with a newer car that kind of frequency could be overkill. (DHs driving to work car is actually 25yrs old)

Steph
post #9 of 27
OP, you might consider looking around for a free or cheap class on auto maintenance. I took one from a local dealership through community ed. (It might have even been a "women's" class).

Lara
post #10 of 27
Warming the car up for a good three or four minutes (and even longer when the weather is cold) first thing in the morning and when it hasn't been driven for several hours is really important.
post #11 of 27
Oil and water
also todays cars are made to last much longer than older cars. say 2-300,000 miles now.

Also if you know something is wrong or wearing out, take it in as soon as possible to prevent further damage, which means more money.

Also do as many repairs as you can, saving money.

Another good thing, if you have to take it to a mechanic, buy the part yourself, it can often save you money this way.
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by Leylla View Post
Ditto Lucas...we use it w/ oil changes, and we also use their transmission products.
HAHAHA I tried to try some of their oil stuff, it ended up getting pumped out in the parking lot! Nasty oil pump sprang a leak - - er a seal went bad and just happened to get knocked loose when I put the new filter on. Wasted a whole 4 quarts of good oil and a quart of Lucas (and 2 oil filters). Needless to say when I got it fixed I had to put the el cheapo oil in without any Lucas : Hafta try it next time I guess.
post #13 of 27
No tips, but my FIL just hit 300,000 on his car so maybe I should ask him! He decided just once he wants to see how many miles he can put on a car before it totally dies.

I think in addition to all the maintenance tips maybe mindset is important too, you know? Just thinking in terms of 'wow, my car is still going!' instead of 'wow, my car is really old'.
post #14 of 27
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HAHAHA I tried to try some of their oil stuff, it ended up getting pumped out in the parking lot! Nasty oil pump sprang a leak - - er a seal went bad and just happened to get knocked loose when I put the new filter on. Wasted a whole 4 quarts of good oil and a quart of Lucas (and 2 oil filters). Needless to say when I got it fixed I had to put the el cheapo oil in without any Lucas : Hafta try it next time I guess.
Just a tip on good/bad oil: It's all the same. So buy the least expensive and you'll be just as well off as if you sed the supposed "good" oil.

It's a little hint my father gave me (a mechanic for 50+ years).
Also the gas enhancers are useless.
post #15 of 27
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Originally Posted by MujerMamaMismo View Post
Warming the car up for a good three or four minutes (and even longer when the weather is cold) first thing in the morning and when it hasn't been driven for several hours is really important.
This is actually a myth. Cars don't need to warm up unless it's below freezing, in which case you might want to let it warm up for 30-60 seconds. It may have been true many moons ago, but with today's cars it just wastes gas. The car will warm up as you drive it. Honest.
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Potty Diva View Post
Just a tip on good/bad oil: It's all the same. So buy the least expensive and you'll be just as well off as if you sed the supposed "good" oil.

It's a little hint my father gave me (a mechanic for 50+ years).
Also the gas enhancers are useless.
Well my dad is big on the "good kind" he says they have better/different detergents in them, and all his cars last "forever" so I guess it just depends on who you learned it from. I think oil is the single best thing you can do for your car, so I don't mind paying a bit more for it. Maybe it's a waste of money, I dunno. I guess I'll find out how many more miles I can put on my truck, eh?

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Originally Posted by Sohappy
This is actually a myth. Cars don't need to warm up unless it's below freezing, in which case you might want to let it warm up for 30-60 seconds. It may have been true many moons ago, but with today's cars it just wastes gas. The car will warm up as you drive it. Honest.
Yeah it it's fine for "today's cars" but if you're driving a 15 year old car, maybe it still applies I know my truck drives a LOT easier if you let it warm up as little as 3 minutes. That sort of thing depends on the car I'm sure.
Everyone I know drives an ancient beater and they swear by warming it up gently rather than hitting the highway immediately.
post #17 of 27
199,000 miles is what we have on our Chrysler Town and Country.

Yep. I am amazed and yet, it still keeps on running. :-)

We do regular, scheduled maintenance faithfully. But thats about it. We recently took it on a 26 hour drive each way, and it was solid as a rock.

Not too long ago though, we did have to redo the air-conditioning system - you need air-conditioning here in the midwest!

I think that its partially just luck. Some cars are lemons, some aren't and you can have both kinds in each make and kind.

with smiles,
rebecca.....who wants our van to last another 4 years.....somehow!
post #18 of 27
Oneknight- my dad has 50+ years of experience in dealing with cars and oil. He has never bought a brand new car- never. he buys old cars and rebuilds them, himself.

He has always used inexpensive oil and he doesn't warm them up because its a gas waste and unneccessary, even for older cars.

My dad is an old school mechanic, where quality service was the norm.
post #19 of 27
I didn't do anything special with my car, but I'm still driving the first car I bought...my 92 Honda Civic, which I purchased at age 17, is still going! It has over 276,000 miles on it, but it's still our only car. My dad laughs saying, "When you bought that thing I never imagined you'd be driving it around with a husband and child!"

I guess my advice would be to buy a Honda!
post #20 of 27
I would totally say buy a Honda, as well.

But I'm a bit biased towards my beautiful red Honda Accord. That poor thing takes so much abuse from me, and still runs wonderfully. (at 160,000 and counting.)

That being said, I have avoided a few major problems by having other people (better at cars than I am) drive it for even a quarter mile, because I get used to driving as things wear out and I don't 'feel' a problem unless it gets to be a REAL problem. So, I would say asking a mechanic that you trust to drive around the parking lot, and honestly feel for problems, might save you big. It's saved me, with replacing belts and something called the 'motor mount,' as well as a transmission glitch. All totally repairable maintenance stuff, however, if left to themselves cause more and more damage and lead to bigger problems.

So, get a second opinion, I guess.
HTH, and I wish your car many many more miles!
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