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post #61 of 318
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I am a smart ass from time to time.....I was off the clock. I saw this lady put her pooch down so it could go potty in the store. I looked at her and said I have two dogs overs 65lbs can they come in shit were you work, I's sure the employees here don't appreciate that. She sheepishly went to the bathroom and cleaned it up.
I can't believe she let her dog do that!! Disgusting, at the very least. Good for you for calling her on it.

Housepets are just that. Outdoors, they require a leash. They should not be in a store, unless they are a working dog, or the store is a pet-friendly petstore.
post #62 of 318
I'm not bothered by dogs in stores. My bank actually welcomes dogs into the different branches. They even keep doggy biscuits for them.
post #63 of 318
We met a woman at our nat. food store who introduced us to our dog trainer, and she has a service dog (a beautiful Tibentan Terrier) because of a brain injury. The dog helps her find her keys, etc.
post #64 of 318
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My friends do yes.
I'm so glad! Honestly, I hope you know that I'm not trying to be snarky or start a fight with you, I just really wish that more people cared about others....

And I have to admit that I am hyper-sensitive to this subject. As I said, my daughter was bitten twice when she was younger and is very scared of dogs. So what did my STBX do? He went out and bought himself a dog. It made me soooo angry to see my (then) twelve year old daughter stand there with tears in her eyes saying "I can't believe Dad got a dog. Doesn't he love me at all?"
post #65 of 318
Well-behaved dogs wouldn't bother me in stores, although I've never seen one aside from service animals and one very tiny, long-haired Chihuahua puppy in a front-pack carrier.

I'm curious as to what people do when they're afraid of dogs or have allergies and a service dog is in their proximity? Also, I would think that if someone was severely allergic to dogs, then merely being near someone who had just played rough-and-tumble with a dog could set it off?
post #66 of 318
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Originally Posted by mmace View Post
I'm so glad! Honestly, I hope you know that I'm not trying to be snarky or start a fight with you, I just really wish that more people cared about others....

And I have to admit that I am hyper-sensitive to this subject. As I said, my daughter was bitten twice when she was younger and is very scared of dogs. So what did my STBX do? He went out and bought himself a dog. It made me soooo angry to see my (then) twelve year old daughter stand there with tears in her eyes saying "I can't believe Dad got a dog. Doesn't he love me at all?"
That is so sad. What was he thinking? :

I'm not as cold-hearted as that comment would make me seem. I was thinking more in abstract terms. When I am out walking with Henry and we come upon a parent and child I always keep him on a short leash and ask the parents/the child if the he or she likes dogs and then I kneel down while child pets him.
post #67 of 318
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I'm not as cold-hearted as that comment would make me seem. I was thinking more in abstract terms. When I am out walking with Henry and we come upon a parent and child I always keep him on a short leash and ask the parents/the child if the he or she likes dogs and then I kneel down while child pets him.
Perfect! That's what I expect any responsible pet owner to do. Your statement did come across pretty unkind, but now that we've discussed it further, I totally see that we are on the same page. (And that's what can be good about MDC - we can discuss things and not get nasty, maybe we should be an example on some of those snarky threads?!)

I'm a cat person myself. I have two cats. And I have a friend that is allergic to cats, so when she visits I make sure that my cats are gated upstairs so they don't bother her (her allergy isn't airborne, just if she comes into physical contact with them). Of course my STBX MIL is allergic too, so I make sure to shake my cats right by the front door before she comes so she doesn't stay long....








Kidding, of course. Kind of.
post #68 of 318
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shake my cats
post #69 of 318
If the dog is well behaved and its owner, I have no problem seeing them in the store.

I have more issues with people who stink of cigarettes or pot or have heavy perfume on. I have seriously almost barfed from the smell of cigarettes on people. Disgusting.

Now our Community co-op has a sign up saying no dogs allowed inside. Oh and you have to keep them away from the door. But they are welcomed by the tables (they have an outside eating area set up.)

It would be interesting to know where people that are against dogs in stores are located. Some areas tend to be more dog friendly than others. I know in Colorado and here in Montana people take their dogs everywhere.
post #70 of 318
Fleas? That's what I would be wondering about. Service animals are usually kept up with pretty meticulous care, but (as I have recently personally witnessed with a family member of mine) just because someone thinks their pup looks cute in the little purse doesn't mean they have the best pet hygiene. Piddling on the store floor and licking the grocery cart handles are both bad enough, but I really don't want to try on a couple of blouses only to find out they were already...occupied.
post #71 of 318
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Originally Posted by raeinparis View Post
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Originally Posted by JustJamie
Don't come to Germany. Dogs are allowed everywhere.
or france. there are some signs at bakeries that say no dogs allowed but that's for show.
Or Switzerland...and those dogs are trained..they are Swiss after all. Most of the Swiss dogs I've seen were unleashed as well. Instead they all heeled at a distance of about 1.5 feet from their owners. Behaved much better than the children of the American tourists.

Or Jamaica, or Spain, or any number of other places.

And, really, the liklihood of a dog who is no longer a puppy peeing on the floor of a store is remote. Very remote. If it is housetrained, it won't urinate indoors. I've even trained mine not to go inside my community garden. She treates that as "indoors", too. The mouths of dogs have fewer bacteria than the mouths of humans. Babies drooling all over shopping carts are FAR more likely to pass on diseases.
post #72 of 318
It's against the law to have animals in the stores in my state. Except for service dogs of course...I've never seen a non-service animal in a store before thats bizare.

I wouldn't like it either...yea for Iowa law I suppose...

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I have more issues with people who stink of cigarettes or pot or have heavy perfume on. I have seriously almost barfed from the smell of cigarettes on people. Disgusting.
Oh, my gosh! Yes...thats terrible, I've had to leave the check out line because a person got in line behind me that smelled so terrible of ciggarettes. Ewww
post #73 of 318
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Originally Posted by PJJ View Post

And yes, many folks do BELIEVE their pets are their children. Lots of parental needs are not being met in this country,
Very true, I notice that also. And it does get on my nerves.

However, I have no problem with dogs in stores. Just becoz something is currently a 'health code violation' doesn't make it right. I don't fear doggie germs in my toddler's grocery cart seat any more than I fear the germs from the last toddler that sat in there. In fact I fear doggie germs less!

As for fear, I think people would be less afraid if dogs were more commonplace.

I also think allowing dogs more places in the culture would make it easier for owners to take care of dogs, and fewer would be neglected or homeless.
post #74 of 318
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Originally Posted by BelgianSheepDog View Post
Damn, Pixie's over the weight limit for the Ergo. Maybe a frame backpack????

I am still trying to picture a 70 lb dog named "Pixie". That is too cute.
post #75 of 318
I love seeing dogs in stores. Sometimes it irks me that only little dogs can get away with it. But I recognize that for jealousy, since I'd never own one of those self-motivated bedroom slippers. I prefer a DOG dog.

As for the dog crapping in the store... seriously, people do it too. I'd rather clean up dog crap than human crap. No shit. :

From a legal perspective, I'll concede the health code issues in grocery stores and restaurants. But I don't think it's a reasonable restriction. In Europe you can take your dog anywhere, and you know what? People aren't dropping dead in droves from dog-vectored diseases spread through the neighborhood cafe. I get really excited when I see people sitting at an outdoor cafe with dogs in attendance. (In most states with which I'm familiar, dogs can be at outdoor venues, such as porch seating at a restaurant.)

As PPs here have already expounded upon, the allergy issue is bunk. I know a guy who is so allergic to cats that he would break out in hives when he went into a co-worker's office, because of the dander on that man's coat. Do you propose that people who own cats shouldn't go out in public? I, too, react nastily to perfumes, even those in laundry detergents and such. I'd love it if people would stop wearing that crap. I'd rather smell BO than Chanel No. 5. But I don't think it's reasonable to attempt to outlaw wearing them in public. I could go on with more examples, food related and otherwise; but others have already pointed that out.
post #76 of 318
first some silly pics- i put our puppy into a snuggli type carrier we had just to be goofy- let see, dh has a beard, so he was on leave, lol, so this was dec of last year. dani is somehwere between 2.5-3.5 months old, and i would say probably pushing 30 lbs (she was 50 at 5 months when we left germany)

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that said, the only thing i mind about dogs in stores is im not allowed to bring mine in. if you can bring your little yappy dog in, i ought to be able to bring in my german shepherds. i miss germany. we went on a road trip when dh was on r&r (just had the one dog then) and we took lady with us. if we were going to a clothing store, one of us stayed outstide with her, just because they were usually small shops, but i liked being able to take her with us. i liked that we could stop and eat, grab a table on the patio (we could have gone inside, but it was april and beautifiul weather) and the waiter would bring lady some water and usually a treat. it was great, and i wish we could do that here

and for what its worth, i NEVER saw a dog using the bathroom in a store or restaraunt, or even in the middle of the street or sidewalk. the only dogs who did that (street or sidewalk) were american dogs, lol.... i admit ours did once or twice on the sidewalk, but we always cleaned it up. most americans didnt. there was more dog crap not picked up in the housing areas on post than i ever saw anywhere else in europe
post #77 of 318
I have no issue with dogs in stores, outside cafes, bars etc. It was so sad moving back to the states. I miss seeing dogs everywhere!

I also have a bigger issues with snot nosed (literally) toddlers and babies spreading cold germs or the potential for salmonella on grocery carts than I do seeing a dog in a grocery store. The chance of my child getting sick from a dog is a lot less likely!

I also think that is if someone has a severe enough allergy to pet hair/dander they have to take *some* responsibility. I have 3 dogs that shed ALOT this time of year. I do my best to keep it from traveling with me but I know it still does, same with my 5 year old who will not sit still for a lint brush. The hair is on me, my purse, my coat, my reusable shopping bags, etc. I am sure I leave a lot in the grocery cart, on the bank or starbucks counters where I place my purse or put my coat down. So even though I try to be considerate if your allergy is bad enough I am going to cause you some problems with out intentionally trying.

Like parents there are some good and bad pet owners. I am sure we have all experienced people who don't control their pets just as we have seen parents who let their kids run wild in inappropriate places. I hate to think a few bad apples will spoil it for everyone like what I seeing happening in public parks these days.
post #78 of 318
I love how in Germany they have a separate bus fare indicated for dogs.
post #79 of 318
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Originally Posted by sohj View Post
Or Switzerland...and those dogs are trained..they are Swiss after all. Most of the Swiss dogs I've seen were unleashed as well. Instead they all heeled at a distance of about 1.5 feet from their owners. Behaved much better than the children of the American tourists.

Or Jamaica, or Spain, or any number of other places.

Or Czech Republic. There are dogs everywhere, although I have noticed in the past few years, there are more signs for No Dogs on establishments.

It doesn't bother me.
post #80 of 318
I had a teacher in high school whose wife knit him sweaters from their dog. It used to make my aunt sick to be in the same room.
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