We did it because we wanted to claim the children on our taxes and get them covered by insurance, plus we couldn't think of a reason that seemed compelling for us not to.
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6/16/07 at 1:18pm
Without a birth certificate you can't get a SS card. A SS card is needed here in NY to obtain any state id including a driver's license.
|A birth certificate is needed to obtain a US passport and register for school also.|
Nope, apparently you can get around it after all!
|It would be impossible here to get a marriage license without a passport or state id.|
|Considering that I want my child to have the option of traveling internationally, driving, marrying and working wherevever they choose I would definitley register them and obtain a birth certificate.|
It is also disturbing to me that my bc says right on it that it is a bank note- that is, a tradable commodity on the world markets.
If you think this is a conspiracy theory, maybe you could explain to me why my bc says "Canada Bank Note." I haven't tried yet, but I thought of taking it to the Bank of Canada and trying to cash it in... I wonder what my name is worth.
I find it disturbing that every document I have ever recieved from the gov't or bank has my name in capital letters, like my bc. I know that is because my name is incorporated, ... And it is bankrupt, just like the government that incorporated it.
Look up STRAWMAN, government bankruptcy, read through the articles at the IMF site, use the new terminology you'll learn there to look more up. The trail is long and very dirty, and if you have the stomach for it, you'll want to search more.
Personally, I would have been absolutely livid if my mother had chosen not to register my birth. I wouldn't have been able to get a job or education, nor would I have been able to travel around and eventually move to the UK to live with my partner. But, I'm not from the US and won't even pretend to know how things are over there.
It's funny, I'd have never even thought of not registering a birth, and in my situation it definitely wouldn't be a good decision. I trust the governments of both my country of origin and the one I live in now enough to let them know some details. I'm sure they've got better things to do than to track me down. Not to mention that I need my kids to be able to travel in order to meet my side of the family. It's more important for me to be able to see the world than to hide from the government.
Different people have different priorities, I suppose. Thank you for starting this thread, I would never have even thought about this on my own.
|but if there is anyone out there that could share their experiences, I'd love to hear! How did it effect your lives? Did it make finding health care(I'm one to stick to "alternative health care" anyway) hard? Has there been times that not having a BC for your child has impeded anything serious?|
|It would be impossible here to get a marriage license without a passport or state id.
You actually only need one document for each of the following two lists.
Age establishing documents
* Birth certificate
* Baptismal record
* Naturalization record
* Census record
Identity establishing documents
* Driver's license
* Employment picture ID
* Immigration record
And you can't get a driver's licence, passport, employment or immigration record or naturalisation record without a birth certificate.
|I just think that those who blithely say that the child could go and get a BC if they wanted to drive are not dissimilar from those who say THEIR darling child would never hit/bite/become gay/renounce god/fall in love with a person of the wrong colour, etc. Simply because you don't want them to do it doesn't mean they won't. After all, are YOU exactly as your parents planned you to be?|
You CAN get around not having a birth certificate, if you have enough other supporting information (from the link kindly supplied above):
" As many of the following as possible:
* Baptismal certificate
* Hospital birth certificate
* Census record
* Early school record
* Family bible record
* Doctor's record of post-natal care
These documents must be early public records showing the date and place of your birth, preferably created within the first five years of your life.
# You may also submit an Affidavit of Birth form DS-10 from an older blood relative, i.e.: a parent, aunt, uncle or sibling who has personal knowledge of your birth. It must be notarized or show the seal and signature of the acceptance agent."
It seems to me that you are going to just create more records of yourself, spend more time and money, and do more running around. Why not simplify and get the certificate when it's easy?
If you think this is a conspiracy theory, maybe you could explain to me why my bc says "Canada Bank Note."
The Canadian Bank Note Company is responsible for printing the paper currency of Canada. Formerly named the British North American Bank Note Company, it also prints and provides document reading systems for identification cards, lottery tickets, stamps and notes for other countries, and many other security-conscious printing-related services. They are well known for their passports, driver's licenses, and other important documents for various nations and jurisdictions around the world.