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post #101 of 166
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Originally Posted by snitker79 View Post
THANKS! That's exactly what I was needing.

Now after spending much of the night researching about carseats (boy my eyes are hurting) I'm sold on the Signo. My only worry is how it's going to fit in my 2001 Ford Escape and my husbands truck (has a back bench seat, but very small).

Do you guys think it would be worth at least ordering/getting and trying it out and then if it doesn't fit, I'm sure it would re-sell well?

I know we can't afford to buy seats for both vehicles and I'm not sure if dd can last until the 3rd week in Sept for a new seat as she's probably at the limit of this one. Does anyone have any recommendations for a smaller/less expensive/yet still relatively safe rf/ff carseat? We could then use this one in my dh's truck and use the Signo in mine since she travels mostly in the Escape anyway. Thoughts?
A good cheap second seat would be the scenera. Just make sure you get the 5pt harness.

-Angela
post #102 of 166
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Originally Posted by snitker79 View Post
THANKS! That's exactly what I was needing.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a smaller/less expensive/yet still relatively safe rf/ff carseat?
I've heard really good things about the Fisher Price Safe Voyage... here's a link:

http://www.albeebaby.com/fisher-pric...car-seats.html

They're made by Britax and sell for $130 with shipping.
post #103 of 166
Okay, I was sold on this seat, but if they're 1" wider than the Boulevard, I can't possibly fit one in next to the Husky in the middle of my backseat! So now I'll have to decide whether to get a new Recaro (which one to be decided after they come out) and put both kids/seats in the outboard positions or get a Boulevard or Radian. Ugh. I was thinking this would be so easy!
post #104 of 166
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It depends, the width may not be at the same height. For example, the boulevard's width is up quite a bit, not at the base.... so this one may mesh with a different seat.

Worth trying when they come out!

-Angela
post #105 of 166
Am I missing it....does the Signo recline?

thanks
post #106 of 166
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Bumping up to bemoan the apparent lack of RF tether. : Back to the boulevard for me. That tether just makes too much of a difference.

-Angela
post #107 of 166
ACK!!! NO!! I can't believe that there is no RFing tether. : I've been out of the latest Recaro news this week, off to look that up... :
post #108 of 166
How do you know it doesn't have a RF tether? and why does it make that much of a difference, most of the other seats don't have it and they still come highly recommended?

Along the lines of tethering...why can't you take the tether and attach it to some point on the car like to the front seat or head rest? I'm fairly new to all of this carseat info, but I know I have a Recaro Signo coming on the advice of many discussions on this board.

TIA
Miranda
post #109 of 166
Yep, I'm out if there isn't a RF tether. Did you also see that in the manual it says that a child over 34 inches cannot rear face. No thanks. I'll stick with my Boulevard. But the sides are soooo deep on the Como from what I've seen in pictures. Sad. Maybe Britax will one up them before my next one is born!
post #110 of 166
Several CPS techs on the car-seat.org board are saying that the rf height limit should just be a guideline- since kids carry their height differently (torso vs. legs, etc) and that it would absolutely be safe to use the Recaro seats RF past 34" tall, if your child's head is 1" below the top of the shell. I believe it does say in the Como manual that you can continue to use the seat RF until the child's head is one inch below the top of the shell, as well.

I spoke w/a CPS tech last night about the rf tether, too. She said that the purpose of the tether when used rf is to stabilize the seat, therefore the child, in the event of a side impact crash- and that the depth of the sides on the Recaro seats is going to do a great job of that, with or without a rf tether. Something to think about, anyway.
post #111 of 166
It still seems up in the air...a tech on another board said they talked to someone at Recaro and they said if there is a tether anchor on the floor then ok....it seems like they are still trying to figure it all out.
post #112 of 166
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ACK!!! NO!! I can't believe that there is no RFing tether. : I've been out of the latest Recaro news this week, off to look that up... :
Yeah, the manual is up on their website now and NO mention of RF tether. Forward tethering directions. No rear.

I suppose, since the seats STILL aren't out, they could change it... not too hopeful.

:

-Angela
post #113 of 166
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Originally Posted by snitker79 View Post
How do you know it doesn't have a RF tether? and why does it make that much of a difference, most of the other seats don't have it and they still come highly recommended?

Along the lines of tethering...why can't you take the tether and attach it to some point on the car like to the front seat or head rest? I'm fairly new to all of this carseat info, but I know I have a Recaro Signo coming on the advice of many discussions on this board.

TIA
Miranda
Seats are either approved to use a RF tether or not. Not safe to do anything with a seat it's not designed for.

IMO the rear tether adds a LOT of stability and will be a mandatory on my list for a child RF.

-Angela
post #114 of 166
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Originally Posted by Dylan'sMommy View Post
Yep, I'm out if there isn't a RF tether. Did you also see that in the manual it says that a child over 34 inches cannot rear face. No thanks. I'll stick with my Boulevard. But the sides are soooo deep on the Como from what I've seen in pictures. Sad. Maybe Britax will one up them before my next one is born!
It's the same mixed message as britax seats. It's really their head with 1in of shell above.

-Angela
post #115 of 166
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Originally Posted by KayleeZoo View Post
Several CPS techs on the car-seat.org board are saying that the rf height limit should just be a guideline- since kids carry their height differently (torso vs. legs, etc) and that it would absolutely be safe to use the Recaro seats RF past 34" tall, if your child's head is 1" below the top of the shell. I believe it does say in the Como manual that you can continue to use the seat RF until the child's head is one inch below the top of the shell, as well.

I spoke w/a CPS tech last night about the rf tether, too. She said that the purpose of the tether when used rf is to stabilize the seat, therefore the child, in the event of a side impact crash- and that the depth of the sides on the Recaro seats is going to do a great job of that, with or without a rf tether. Something to think about, anyway.


I don't buy it. I have a boulevard. I can get an excellent install without the tether. But then the tether really does add more stability. It's simple physics.

I think it's just a matter of time before they're mandatory along with SIP.

-Angela
post #116 of 166
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It still seems up in the air...a tech on another board said they talked to someone at Recaro and they said if there is a tether anchor on the floor then ok....it seems like they are still trying to figure it all out.
Yeah, I'm reserving judgment until I see a real live one. But not many cars have a tether anchor in the right place for a RF seat.

So basically this just became a forward only seat for me. Heck- for that much I can get a regent.

-Angela
post #117 of 166
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I'm also wondering if RF it can touch/be braced against the seat in front. That was unclear in the manual. And a BIG IMPORTANT point for me.

-Angela
post #118 of 166
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Originally Posted by KayleeZoo View Post
Several CPS techs on the car-seat.org board are saying that the rf height limit should just be a guideline- since kids carry their height differently (torso vs. legs, etc) and that it would absolutely be safe to use the Recaro seats RF past 34" tall, if your child's head is 1" below the top of the shell. I believe it does say in the Como manual that you can continue to use the seat RF until the child's head is one inch below the top of the shell, as well.

I spoke w/a CPS tech last night about the rf tether, too. She said that the purpose of the tether when used rf is to stabilize the seat, therefore the child, in the event of a side impact crash- and that the depth of the sides on the Recaro seats is going to do a great job of that, with or without a rf tether. Something to think about, anyway.
With the rfing height thing, there is a graph in there that shows when a child can ff, when a child can rf, and when they can do both. On the graph it does not allow a child any taller than 34 inches to rf. It also says the 1 inch rule. I guess they contradict themselves, but I don't feel comfortable using a seat where it states in the manual that it cannot be used.

As for the rf tether, it adds a ton of stability but also prevents recoil. I think a braced and tethered britax is going to win over high sidewalls any day. But I don't have any facts to back that up.

I don't think the lack of mention of a tether is an accident, it has a single point tether instead of a multi point like a britax. But I'd sure like to think it is an accident.
post #119 of 166
I'll post a review soon- I sold my Boulevard and ordered the Como. I'm going to call Recaro on the bracing issue either today or Monday and will let you all know what I find out.
post #120 of 166
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Originally Posted by Dylan'sMommy View Post
With the rfing height thing, there is a graph in there that shows when a child can ff, when a child can rf, and when they can do both. On the graph it does not allow a child any taller than 34 inches to rf. It also says the 1 inch rule. I guess they contradict themselves, but I don't feel comfortable using a seat where it states in the manual that it cannot be used.

As for the rf tether, it adds a ton of stability but also prevents recoil. I think a braced and tethered britax is going to win over high sidewalls any day. But I don't have any facts to back that up.

I don't think the lack of mention of a tether is an accident, it has a single point tether instead of a multi point like a britax. But I'd sure like to think it is an accident.
The height thing is the same thing that was in the britax manuals for a long time. I would be fine with a child over 34in. rear facing as long as the head was in the shell.

-Angela
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