New Recaro seats - Page 8

[snitker79]

I just got a reply from the company I'm purchasing my Signo from. They said it will still be 2-3 weeks away from delivery. FYI

[alegna]

Originally Posted by snitker79

I just got a reply from the company I'm purchasing my Signo from. They said it will still be 2-3 weeks away from delivery. FYI

Yeah, the email I got from Gayle said first two weeks of October.

-Angela

[KayleeZoo]

Since it hasn't been mentioned on this thread- ANOTHER problem with these seats- they claim a max height of 34 in (I think?) for RF. Period. Ears/straps don't matter. So for US, we would have already had to turn dd around. She's 30lbs and at least 37 inches. Still happily and safely RF in her boulevard.

I am hoping that a year or so down the line, they fix these problems. But until then we will stick with Britax.

Yep. I've heard from 2 sources (a retailer who spoke w/the CEO of Recaro and the Program Manager/engineer in charge of the Como/Signo project) that the 34" RF limit is non-negotiable, even though a taller child may fit just fine in the seat with plenty of headroom (like my 2.5yo DS who is 33.5" tall- he's got 5" or more until his head hits the top of the shell). They are saying that the seat was tested w/a 34" dummy, and they can't recommend or endorse a highter RF height than that. Problem is, every tech that I've spoken with has said that there is NO such thing as a 34" dummy- it's a 37" dummy that all the manuf. have to use. I'm really uneasy about the answers I'm getting from Recaro at this point. That and the mandatory/recommended/who knows head bolsters in the bottom 2 slots did it for us. I returned the Como and bought another Boulevard instead. The engineer at Recaro told me that the same RF height is going to apply to the Signo, but that the actual headroom is a bit more, since the headrest extends above the top of the seat shell. So who knows?

[Kleine Hexe]

Originally Posted by alegna

Since it hasn't been mentioned on this thread- ANOTHER problem with these seats- they claim a max height of 34 in (I think?) for RF. Period. Ears/straps don't matter. So for US, we would have already had to turn dd around. She's 30lbs and at least 37 inches. Still happily and safely RF in her boulevard.


-Angela

Yikes! Ds is 39 inches and only weighs 29lbs. I'm happy to keep him RF as long as possible. I guess that wouldn't be possible with the Recaro.

[snitker79]

So what's the big deal? There's plenty of head room left, so it's not like there's a safety issue there and the techs are saying there isn't a 34" dummy. Obviously people (techs, manufactureres, retailers) aren't on the same page and that's a problem in and of itself.

Now I don't have any experience with a britax and I'm awaiting my Signo, so I dont have anything to compare. And I'm still twisting my husbands arm about not putting our 17mo dd in her "infant seat" and keeping her rear facing for as long as possible, so I know there will have to be something seriously wrong with the Recaro Signo for us to be compelled to send it back and go with a britax.

[alegna]

Yeah... glad I didn't preorder. These seats are no great deal afterall.

I wonder what % of kids hit 35lbs before 34 inches?

-Angela

[yamilee21]

The information on thiese new seats is making me : - Recaro's website claims that the Signo will fit a child up to 60 inches tall and 70 lbs, while the Britax site says the Regent fits chidren to 53 inches and 80 pounds (yes, I know height is only a guideline, unlike weight, but I have a tall, long-torsoed child, so height is actually more important for me). BUT, according to posters on the car-seat.org forums, the top slots on the Signo are 20 inches, vs. 21 inches for the Regent, in which case the Regent would work better for a longer torso than the Signo. : Anybody know for certain which seat has the highest slots? I'm trying to figure out whether to get a Regent or not before the sale ends on Saturday! Thanks.

[alegna]

The regent has the highest slots on the market at 21 inches. The recaro slots are lower.

-Angela

[Papooses]

Right. I would choose the Signo/Como if kiddo is not yet 35# (because RF is just sooooo much safer regardless of age, so long as they still fit the weight/height limits) -- I'd choose the Regent only if kiddo absolutely could not ride RF anymore. Of course, the ultimate dealbreaker is whichever seat will be used correctly 100% of the time

[KayleeZoo]

Here's 2 pictures of my 38", 4.5yo in the 3rd from the top slots of the Como (I will measure her torso when she wakes up) http://img5.ranchoweb.com/images/bal.../lexicomo2.jpg
http://img5.ranchoweb.com/images/bal.../lexicomo1.jpg

And here's a pic of her in the Regent: http://img5.ranchoweb.com/images/bal...lexiregent.jpg

She's in the 3rd from the tops slots in the Regent with a TON of growing room. She really didn't have much more than a couple of inches, if that, in the Como before her head reaches the shell top- the seat fit her really well right now, but I want her harnessed a long time (she's only 30lbs).

Pic of my 2.5yo DS, FF in the Como (he's 33.5" tall, torso measurement to follow-he's happily watching Dora right now and I'm not giving that up to measure him ) http://img5.ranchoweb.com/images/bal...ustincomo2.jpg

I'll take a pic of him in the Regent later if anyone wants that comparison. His BV should be here later today (I hope) and I'll take pics of him in that to compare to the growing room in the Como if that will help anyone.

[yamilee21]

Kaylee, those pictures were very useful, especially as my two year old is about as tall as your daughter. I do hope you can get torso measurements, too - that will certainly help me. Thanks!

Makes you wonder about Recaro's crash-test dummies though - 60 inches tall with a super-short torso - must be quite a sight.

[KayleeZoo]

Okay, my 4.5yo DD's torso is 13.75" and 2.5yo DS's torso is 12.75"

HTH!!

[alegna]

Originally Posted by Papooses

Right. I would choose the Signo/Como if kiddo is not yet 35# (because RF is just sooooo much safer regardless of age, so long as they still fit the weight/height limits) -- I'd choose the Regent only if kiddo absolutely could not ride RF anymore. Of course, the ultimate dealbreaker is whichever seat will be used correctly 100% of the time

Unless, of course, they're over 34" : My dd is only 30lbs, but she's been over 34in for at least a year. She's still safely RF in her boulevard, but in a recaro she would have to be ff.

-Angela

[KayleeZoo]

DH and I went back and forth re: the Recaro 34" rule. The logical thing is to use the seat even if the child is taller than 34", provided that their head is lower than 1" below the seat shell, as per NHTSA standards. BUT Recaro told me very emphatically that the warranty would be void if we used it against manufacturers instructions since it was not tested past 34" RF. DH felt that we should go with a seat that DS could RF in and still be within the manuf. guidelines, so we bought another BV. I sure hope that they change the wording in the Signo manual, but more importantly, I hope they did indeed test the seat RF w/the standard 37" dummy.

[hottmama]

Yikes, no way would I buy a new Recaro now! My 20 mo. old is 34" tall and only 27 lbs. I think I'll just keep him in his Scenera until 35 lbs. and then buy a Regent... although then neither kid could ride in the middle seat... maybe I should buy a Britax convertible, or a Radian...
I feel like I'm walking in circles with this carseat confusion! Thank goodness my oldest is happy in his Husky for years to come.

[yamilee21]

Originally Posted by KayleeZoo

Okay, my 4.5yo DD's torso is 13.75" and 2.5yo DS's torso is 12.75"

My son's torso length is 14 1/4! Looks like the Regent is our best option, so I just ordered one.

[Still_Learning]

They have the manuals updated and posted on their site now. Looks like they rethought the 34" rf rule and now say the headrest isn't required at all, only highly recommended

[alegna]

Hmmm. They don't seem to have their acts together....

I'd be interested in hearing what they "officials" there are saying now.

-Angela

[an_aurora]

Originally Posted by Still_Learning

They have the manuals updated and posted on their site now. Looks like they rethought the 34" rf rule and now say the headrest isn't required at all, only highly recommended

Yes. Thankfully, they changed it. My 2yo is 37" so I'm very glad they changed the "rule".

I visited the Como and took pics of both my kids in them. I was very pleasantly surprised with the seat. DD1 is 26mo, 37", 27 lbs, 14" torso. DD2 is 6mo, 26", 15lb, 12" torso. Both fit very well, and will be getting new Comos in the near future

[angie3096]

Where did you find a Como to look at IRL? I live in Skagit County too...