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post #261 of 369
Hi ladies,
I don't have a whole lot of time to post now because I'm at work, but I just wanted to share that I got sworn in to the Georgia bar today--I'm officially a LAWYER mommy!!! Woohoo!
I'll try to post more later in response to some of the new posts--hope everyone's having a good day!
post #262 of 369
Wow, congratulations! Good job!
post #263 of 369
Congratulations!!!
post #264 of 369
I haven't posted in awhile, it looks as though I will be going back to government, with the economic downturn I am thankful my boss is going to try to rehire me. Hope anyone else looking is having as much luck.

Gina
post #265 of 369
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Originally Posted by lawschoolmama View Post
Hi ladies,
I don't have a whole lot of time to post now because I'm at work, but I just wanted to share that I got sworn in to the Georgia bar today--I'm officially a LAWYER mommy!!! Woohoo!
I'll try to post more later in response to some of the new posts--hope everyone's having a good day!
Congratulations! I am a UGA alumnus. I totally miss athens. Atlanta not so much but that is okay by me!
post #266 of 369

To WOH or go solo

Would any of you wonderful lawyer mama's be willing to give me some advice?

I am a single SAHM of a darling 17mo. I want with all my heart to continue being a full-time mom but need to pay the bills. I have dreamed of starting my own solo appellate practice, first doing some contract lawyering while it builds up. I am licensed and live in a state that I haven't worked in before, so I have virtually no contacts right now. The other challenge is my home is in a very rural area, so networking is challenging. I believe I could do it though, with some hard work.

Another option is to move and work 20 hours a week as a court staff attorney. I would work 4 hours 5 days a week with an hour break each day to come home and nurse baby who would be cared for by grandma. The thought of leaving LO for 4 hours a day breaks my heart. We are deeply attached to eachother and we've never been apart before. I would much rather work from home.

I would love some advice/feedback on weighing these options. What would be best for baby? Anyone who has started a practice or contract lawyered, how challenging is it to start your own business? Any and all comments would be appreciated. Thank you.
post #267 of 369
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Originally Posted by mamadeo View Post
Would any of you wonderful lawyer mama's be willing to give me some advice?

I am a single SAHM of a darling 17mo. I want with all my heart to continue being a full-time mom but need to pay the bills. I have dreamed of starting my own solo appellate practice, first doing some contract lawyering while it builds up. I am licensed and live in a state that I haven't worked in before, so I have virtually no contacts right now. The other challenge is my home is in a very rural area, so networking is challenging. I believe I could do it though, with some hard work.

Another option is to move and work 20 hours a week as a court staff attorney. I would work 4 hours 5 days a week with an hour break each day to come home and nurse baby who would be cared for by grandma. The thought of leaving LO for 4 hours a day breaks my heart. We are deeply attached to eachother and we've never been apart before. I would much rather work from home.

I would love some advice/feedback on weighing these options. What would be best for baby? Anyone who has started a practice or contract lawyered, how challenging is it to start your own business? Any and all comments would be appreciated. Thank you.
I've done neither (I practice litigation at a large firm), so take this with a grain of salt, but between the two options you outline, I would take the 20 hours a week as a court staff attorney.

Part-time litigation work can be hard to find, so if you can afford not to work full-time it's worth snapping up. Particularly if you don't have a lot in the way of connections or reputation in your area, just making those would eat up a fair amount of time and effort were you to go solo at this point, I would think. And doing all the other little extras if you're solo with a small practice - the administrative stuff, billing, etc. With the court staff attorney job, you're in and out, and when you're with your baby you can be fully present, instead of always having one eye on the computer or one ear on the phone.

That's my take, anyway...
post #268 of 369
Finishing up exams/papers here--one more semester to go...

BUT...

The teeny firm where I've been clerking since last October has invited me to stay on after graduation!!!!

:::

(I accepted. Well-above-market pay, not nearly enough paid time off (but they're very good about flexibility otherwise), no health insurance but I can continue on my student stuff for a year and hopefully my partner will have something I can go on after that...and the best....NO MINIMUM BILLABLE HOUR REQUIREMENT!!!!! The two full-time associates bill around 1500 a year. Very, very humane, especially considering the pay. I'll be working some evenings due simply to the nature of the practice, but it's predictable and not to further line the coffers of a $500/hour partner. )
post #269 of 369
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Originally Posted by mammastar2 View Post
I've done neither (I practice litigation at a large firm), so take this with a grain of salt, but between the two options you outline, I would take the 20 hours a week as a court staff attorney.

Part-time litigation work can be hard to find, so if you can afford not to work full-time it's worth snapping up. Particularly if you don't have a lot in the way of connections or reputation in your area, just making those would eat up a fair amount of time and effort were you to go solo at this point, I would think. And doing all the other little extras if you're solo with a small practice - the administrative stuff, billing, etc. With the court staff attorney job, you're in and out, and when you're with your baby you can be fully present, instead of always having one eye on the computer or one ear on the phone.

That's my take, anyway...

Thanks so much for your thoughtful feedback. You are so right, being able to leave work at work is definitely a plus. Thanks again.
post #270 of 369
I hope its not too late to join in here - but I'm a 2L in NYC and expecting a baby sometime around Jan 6, 09. I'm finishing finals this week, so I'll keep this short and come back later to post more!

I have no idea what I'll do when I finish law school, but my boyfriend is also a law student at my school, so next semester I'm taking a super light load so that I can breastfeed (I'm super excited about being a mom!) and spend a lot of time with baby. We are relatively young, I'm 24 and he is 27. I came to law school straight from undergrad, and it was a BIG change. I'm from Seattle, went to school in a tiny town in Eastern Washington and now go to law school in Queens, and my boyfriend is from Long Island (we met as 1L's).

Any other lawyer moms in NYC? I don't know many people here outside of school, and I'd love to make some friends with kids/babies!
post #271 of 369
finished with my first semester of law school!
post #272 of 369
Congratulations gethane!:
post #273 of 369
I totally forgot about this thread! Congrats, to lawschoolmama and ProtoLawyer!

I started my firm offically about 6 months ago, but really about 3 months ago (was working remotely for a few months before I moved back to Portland). It's been amazing and challenging all at the same time. I feel like I finally found what I should be doing, which is running a business. I love advising people, I love being able to help people, but I also love marketing and holding seminars and being in complete control of what I do. My dad is an attorney too, and he always said I would have a rough time working for someone else!

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the next year. I have so much planned and hope to expand and hire 1 or 2 associates to work with me. DH is staying at home and I am working from home (soon, I hope to open an office that has a family room where my kids and DH and the employees' and clients' kids can hang out if they want). I have to say, without DH staying home, I can't imagine doing this. He was working for the first 3 months I was doing this and my 2yo did not want me to get anything done!

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Hello ladies.
I just found this board.
I could use some advise & encouragement.
I graduated law school 2006, had my first child 2007 (she'll be 1 yo this Friday!)
I live in a small metro area & I have kicked around a few firms in the area for the last few years.
Finally got a (so I thought) great job with a well known firm.
After 8 months I realized I love the work (practicing family law) but hate the job. I'm treated like a paralegal and making a dismal salary.
So I turned in my notice Monday and am preparing to hang out my own shingle next week. It is such a big step & I am scared & thrilled at the same time. I have so much to learn about practicing law, and everything to learn about running a business, but I think this is the only way I can have it all.
DH has been SAHD since I went back to work after maternity leave and that wil have to change (at least temporarily) until I can get my firm up and running. But he is extremely supportive, and we have family to help with childcare.
I look forward to being my own boss, and don't need or desire to make a fortune. I just want to be able to practice my way.
Any advise on making this work?
Looking forward to many more conversations with ya'll!
I don't know if you're still around MDC - it looks like you posted a while ago. I have loads of advice for anyone who is starting their own practice. PM me or post any questions you have. There's so much to say I wouldn't know where to start.
post #274 of 369
Does anyone do family law in Virginia? Or know anyone who does?

Check out this website: http://www.helpkeepthemhome.com/index.html

This is a family in my area (Portland, OR) that really needs an attorney in VA to help keep the kids at home. If anyone is willing to help at a reduced cost, I know that we'll be doing some major fundraising to pay legal fees. Give me a call if you are interested - 503-235-5150 (Candice).
post #275 of 369
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Originally Posted by mamadeo View Post
Would any of you wonderful lawyer mama's be willing to give me some advice?

I am a single SAHM of a darling 17mo. I want with all my heart to continue being a full-time mom but need to pay the bills. I have dreamed of starting my own solo appellate practice, first doing some contract lawyering while it builds up. I am licensed and live in a state that I haven't worked in before, so I have virtually no contacts right now. The other challenge is my home is in a very rural area, so networking is challenging. I believe I could do it though, with some hard work.

Another option is to move and work 20 hours a week as a court staff attorney. I would work 4 hours 5 days a week with an hour break each day to come home and nurse baby who would be cared for by grandma. The thought of leaving LO for 4 hours a day breaks my heart. We are deeply attached to eachother and we've never been apart before. I would much rather work from home.

I would love some advice/feedback on weighing these options. What would be best for baby? Anyone who has started a practice or contract lawyered, how challenging is it to start your own business? Any and all comments would be appreciated. Thank you.
Sorry, I've been offline for a while, only now getting back to MDC. Hope this isn't stale advice, but count me as a second vote for the court staff atty. position. As a court employee, you'll probably get benefits that you wouldn't as a contract atty (when your LO is a toddler, jumping around bumping into things getting all sorts of injuries and you're wondering "does this need stitches . . .?" it's nice not to have to think of paying the ER bill out of pocket.) You'll also be in the courthouse daily, will learn the local players and can make contacts with other members of the bar and the bench. Much more could develop later down the road from that, I'd think.

Don't know what contract lawyering is like in your neck of the woods, but where I am it's brutal long hours, demoralizing work, with LOTS of demands on your psyche. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone with a child under the age of, say, 25. So the thought that you'd do that, and have time to rear a child and develop a practice of your own is one that just wouldn't fly for me, but your situation may be different.

The leaving your LO thing is hard, but if you can time it right, 1.5-2 hours of that 4 hrs would be naptime, right? Hard to know what's the best thing for each mama and her child, but I'd jump on the staff attorney position if it were my decision to make.
post #276 of 369
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finished with my first semester of law school!

Congratulations!! I think you're at my alma mater -- so you have my empathy.
post #277 of 369

Going Back

I just had my DD this past September and took the fall quarter off. (My school is on a quarter system.) I'm 4 quarters away from graduating because I also had to take last winter quarter off due to extreme morning sickness (I realized when I was in the hospital for the 2nd time for IV fluids that school wasn't going to happen).

Anyway, I'm supposed to start school again next week, and I'm really struggling with going back, with finding a job, and what I need to do after graduation. (Oh, and I suppose I could throw in taking the bar in about a year.)

Does this really work? I have the option and am exercising it this next term to take my classes in a remote room so that I can have my daughter with me. She's EBF and refuses the bottle. (We've tried every bottle/nipple combination under the sun it seems.) So, having her with me seems best for her. But, I'm looking at having to write a 25 page brief for a moot court competition by the end of January plus schoolwork AND her?

I feel like I'm just rambling now, but any stories of how you survived school with an infant and managed to find a job afterwards would be much appreciated.
post #278 of 369
kbond, what kind of support system do you have? Who could watch her if you needed some time? I would try that option of taking the courses in a separate room. That sounds awesome! But for studying, I don't know about you, but I need at least some 3-4 hour blocks of uninterrupted study time. I definitely needed that for the bar, and I would definitely need that for researching and writing a brief. I would look into getting someone who could watch her a few days a week for a few hours at a time, where you can aim to be your most productive. I thought I could study for the bar while watching 7mo dd, but it did not happen. I had no family around and couldn't afford childcare. I ended up taking it a year later, and my mom was around to watch her every day for a month. It was still tough. Not trying to be a downer, but please try to use any resource for childcare that you can.
post #279 of 369
Hi lawyer moms! Constitutional law comments needed:

I just noticed this post in Birth Professionals: https://www.mothering.com/discussion....php?t=1022740 about a Kaplan Study Guide suggesting that a hypothetical ban on homebirth could be found constitutional because it would further a compelling state interest (much more detail in the post).

As I only have 1L under my belt (and didn't do so hot in Constitutional Law ), I was really hoping one of you could help to work through the question in the post linked above...

It's a really scary thought that a state could constitutionally ban home birth; instinctively I want to say that it wouldn't happen, but I can't reason out why.
Thoughts? (Please post or X-post in the original link! )
post #280 of 369
OK--No way am I going to respond to the post (the time it would take...oy!). But, it is an interesting question, and if I ever start missing those good old five-hour essay tests, I will just write out a lovely response for fun.

Off the top of my head, I would say that a very good argument could be made for that position. I am a home-birther here, but also a lawyer. That being said, a very good argument could be made against that position. I'd hope for your success in law school that you could make both of those arguments. That's law school--nothing to do with the practice of law, really. I wouldn't worry too much. Never heard the Supreme Court quote Kaplan's.
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