Hospital transfer with UP - Page 3

[BirthFree]

Here, CPS gets called for really small things, I doubt very much that if you transfered to the hospital here that they would not be called. They don't necessarily want your records (though they would in that case I'm sure), but they want to know who your care provider is. That's what they ask me any time I have been in the hospital (non-labor related). Last time I had someone who said she would do some care (I wanted to get the Group B test done, and one for iron levels near my due date) so I said her name. But I don't have anyone this time...

I'm going to keep records this time though (I didn't last time) re: weight, bp, fundal height, etc. It's lame but I'd rather take the time to do something like that than face the struggle of dealing with CPS - ANY day. It shouldn't have to be something we worry about but being prepared is never a bad thing.

[Kidzaplenty]

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[NoMariposa]

I would lie. Here it's not uncommon to have an OB an hour away w the intent of birthing in a different hospital. It would not be far fetched to say, it came on so fast and I knew I would not make it when _____ (whatever floats your boat, the ER or what have you -- chances are if it is an ER, it's your dh or dp checking you in and he needs to just say we couldn't make it to XYZ hospital. If they ask who her doc is, he can honestly say I don't remember).

I have registered at the local hospital and they asked the name of my OB, I gave them a name of someone I had seen but was no longer and of course he was not in the system b/c it defined around here very well. I was registered as a patient who would get the on call OB for that hosptial. I was up front and said I would not be here, unless I don't think I will make it to XYZ hospital. And they were all smiles to be a back-up, I was being careful in their eyes.

Docs and hospitals can not release your records to anyone without your signature to do so as far as I am aware to some extent. We went to the ER w our child one night and our FP called to find out if we went b/c the FP on call doc had our name spelled wrong and could not find our entry in the hospital system.

Now if the hospital were to see a need to call CPS, then CPS might want to see records. There is no reason you can't print off something from the net and do your own prenatal checks and write them down. But I'd be calling a lawyer at that time and not relinquishing anything to CPS voluntarily.

Honestly, I don't see CPS being called in just for coming in to the ER w a labor emergancy. It happens more often than we know, mom waits too long at home, mom give birth in the car. etc

[htcamommy]

Originally Posted by NoMariposa

I would lie. Here it's not uncommon to have an OB an hour away w the intent of birthing in a different hospital. It would not be far fetched to say, it came on so fast and I knew I would not make it when _____ (whatever floats your boat, the ER or what have you -- chances are if it is an ER, it's your dh or dp checking you in and he needs to just say we couldn't make it to XYZ hospital. If they ask who her doc is, he can honestly say I don't remember).

This is EXACTLY what I intend to do. I have seen my OB up until this point ( almost 27 weeks). He delivers at the upper class hospital 25 miles away. We have a small local hospital 4 miles away that pretty much ONLY delivers "medicaid" babies. If we have an issue we will go there immediatly & just spit out my former OB's name. I think the bigger issue will come into if you decide not to stay for 48 hours for observation etc etc

[kaylee18]

Originally Posted by NightWalker

Okay so perhaps we are arguing semantics here? If the parent is allowed to stay in the country until the child is 21--what can we call that?

No, the parent is not allowed to stay in the country until the child is 21. Rather, the parent can be deported, with or without the child, and although the child is a natural-born American citizen, the child cannot sponsor the parent to return to the country until the child is 21.

I know for FACT that a mother will not be deported if she has her child stateside, so is it temporary citizenship?

Nope, nope. I know for a FACT that an illegal immigrant mother of a citizen child can and will be deported, with or without the child (usually, but not always, her choice to make), if the INS gets hold of her. Fathers too. Now, if an illegal immigrant is married to a citizen, it's a different story. But the U.S. has deported plenty of mothers who came to the U.S. and had their children here. They come anyway, knowing this. And some of them make the terrible choice to leave their babies behind, to grow up in an American foster or adoptive home instead of in poverty. :

Regardless, immigration is not called. I actually worked at a hospital in PP and I can assure you--we never called immigration......

Now, this is believable. I know that OSHA and even the police have been known to turn a blind eye and refuse to contact INS.

[NoMariposa]

Originally Posted by htcamommy

I think the bigger issue will come into if you decide not to stay for 48 hours for observation etc etc

I believe normal vaginal birth is 24 hrs, some places 12hs. They can not make you stay. They can try. No ins usually results in a shorter stay. If you have ins that allows so many hours or days, the hospital might push for that max.

I might, lie about ins at intake and then file it myself later. Or make up that I said I didn't have it, with me. A laboring women is not exactly responsible for getting it all right!

It would depend on how I preceived the hospital to be about ins abuses. And a medicaid hospital is likely to keep a real ins payer longer given real ins pays them better - generally.

Find out ahead of time, if it makes you feel better, what the standard stay is and what criteria need to be met to leave earlier. Call L&D and ask, give a false name if they want to know who you are. Don't give details, just say you plan on having a baby soon and are looking into your hospital options and this is important to you b/c you have other children at home who need you. Make up whatever you want, be a mother of 6, they won't know you from anyone else IF you do end up with complications and land in the ER.

I think it is important for birth to get the "worries" out of the way. If that means calling the hospital and asking questions then do it carefully. You could be Mrs Duggar if you wanted to!

[rainbowmoon]

keep in mind, they will try to keep your baby for 48hours for antx., if you have not been tested for GBS.

Originally Posted by NoMariposa

I believe normal vaginal birth is 24 hrs, some places 12hs. They can not make you stay. They can try. No ins usually results in a shorter stay. If you have ins that allows so many hours or days, the hospital might push for that max.

I might, lie about ins at intake and then file it myself later. Or make up that I said I didn't have it, with me. A laboring women is not exactly responsible for getting it all right!

It would depend on how I preceived the hospital to be about ins abuses. And a medicaid hospital is likely to keep a real ins payer longer given real ins pays them better - generally.

Find out ahead of time, if it makes you feel better, what the standard stay is and what criteria need to be met to leave earlier. Call L&D and ask, give a false name if they want to know who you are. Don't give details, just say you plan on having a baby soon and are looking into your hospital options and this is important to you b/c you have other children at home who need you. Make up whatever you want, be a mother of 6, they won't know you from anyone else IF you do end up with complications and land in the ER.

I think it is important for birth to get the "worries" out of the way. If that means calling the hospital and asking questions then do it carefully. You could be Mrs Duggar if you wanted to!

[Kidzaplenty]

Originally Posted by NoMariposa

You could be Mrs Duggar if you wanted to!

OOO! That's me! I will use that name. I wonder if they would believe me or question the name.

"Yes, this is Mrs. Dugger and I am about to pop out my 20th child, could you give me some info on your facility?"