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post #41 of 49
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Originally Posted by carriebft View Post
The whole "there are worse things" argument is just a red herring anyway.

You're right, and I don't even know how the conversation got that way, , I know they get on tangents, but you're right, it is a red herring and it doesn't matter.

So silly to argue about 2 horrible things,

But I'm glad a couple people are here that can relate a bit to what I meant.
post #42 of 49
I think that we can agree that like neglect & abuse, circumsicion should also be illegal.
post #43 of 49
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Originally Posted by mamamillet View Post
Sure we do. My mom used belts to "spank" me. Hurt like hell. Caused physical and emotional damage. But I know that my mom is horrified by the idea now. She did what she thought parents did to " misbehaving" kids. She did what was done to her. I understand her intent and have forgiven her completely.
I should have been more clear: the newborn infant doesn't experience intent.
post #44 of 49
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I think that we can agree that like neglect & abuse, circumsicion should also be illegal.
Yes.
post #45 of 49
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Originally Posted by karina5 View Post
You're right, and I don't even know how the conversation got that way, , I know they get on tangents, but you're right, it is a red herring and it doesn't matter.

So silly to argue about 2 horrible things,

But I'm glad a couple people are here that can relate a bit to what I meant.


I think when it gets down to convos like this, it's just getting into the guts of inactivism. Everyone's got a different version of the guts, but we're all down in there. Maybe some people go "deeper" and others don't, thats all, ANd its not good or bad...it just is.
post #46 of 49
I'm sorry you felt so upset by this thread, karina. I know it's hard to remember that we're disagreeing about thoughts and beliefs, not personally. I don't think I'm wording this right so I'll shut up now. But I hope that you are able to separate from it a bit, and feel better.
post #47 of 49
sorry for the little one mamamillet. hopefully you'll still continue to be a postiive influence on her parenting despite this decision.
post #48 of 49
I am very sorry for that poor sweet baby boy.: I wish I didn't have to keep hearing about babies being cut like this. It breaks my heart, and I hug my little ones closer.
I have been lucky: I have no friends who circumcised their sons. I honestly do not know what I would do if that happened. I honestly would find it very difficult to remain friends with someone who did such a horrendous thing to their own baby. But right now I am not going to sit around angrily discussing what I would do if I were to be in that predicament, and judging and making war on others who say might still keep that friend if they were in that predicament.
I remember once someone was angrily telling me that they were annoyed with someone because although they left their baby boy intact, they didn't do it for the "right reasons" and didn't know just how monstrous circumcision is. I do very firmly believe that everyone needs to be educated about the horrors of genital mutilation. But I was surprised that instead of celebrating that another baby was healthfully intact, this person was still choosing to be angry and find fault with the situation.
I am surprised at the attacking going on here among mamas who all believe the same thing: that circumcision is horrific, abusive, and leaves lifelong physical and emotional trauma to children. We are all mamas who are protecting our children from it, and doing our best to protect others.
I agree that circumcision is very serious, it is most definitely abuse, and is something to be very angry about. I am angry about circumcision. But this "which is worse" argument is just so unnecessary, and it is unproductive to be angry at other mamas who are so obviously against circumcision too.
post #49 of 49
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Originally Posted by vermontgirl View Post
I personally would not consider her a friend anymore. I cannot continue friendships with people who abuse their children-even though the information was provided for them.
Yup, I agree. This woman knew the OP felt super strongly about this issue and still did it. If my friend felt super strongly about something, I'd pay really close attention and learn as much as I could before I did what she felt strongly against. I'd really work hard to figure out why my friend would feel that way. I wouldn't just brush it off like it didn't matter.

Find other friends. And
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