Originally Posted by phatchristy
It sounds like there is a part of you that does agree that every human being has a right to an intact body....regardless of what their parents think. Is it that you are concerned that you man offend some clients, so you don't speak as outwardly as you truly feel? I don't know how things have changed at LOL (I've had three kiddos there) but they were always outspokenly against circ, BOTH Charlynn's daughters spoke out against it. As did all the birth assistants I worked with. Even sharing personal experience and asking that I take out the book "say NO to circumcision" that was in their lending library.
I don't know how they asked you the question, but if you believe that every human being has a right to an intact body I think it could have been said without offending anyone. If someone had said that to me even before I knew anything about circ at all, I would have agreed...probably thought to myself, isn't that obvious? Because, hey, I wouldn't have wanted anyone to cut off parts of me when I was a child and couldn't speak out and be heard!
Actually, the LOL I work for is very "parents choose" though both are adamantly against circumcision. I am trying my hardest to help. There is now a laminated copy ready to go to post on the bulletin board. Since I am doing the CBE classes there, I address it, and previously it wasn't addressed at all in the CBE classes. It was truly an ignored issue unless the client brought it up. If they were having a boy, then the midwife would ask, and say her opinion about it. The birth assistants are not anti-circ, unfortunately. And the way I present it is fairly one sided. I say there is no medical reason, that's it's cosmetic, etc. Standard party line stuff.
But, I've had Muslim mamas and Jewish mamas in my classes, too. Rather than totally make them feel defensive and hurt, I choose to tone some things down--for example, I show them opportunities for choice, even within these religious mandates. I have pamphlets for every conceivable religion.
(For the record, one of the Muslim families decided not to circ. I was so very happy.)
|Anyhow, just some thoughts, I'm just trying to understand your standpoint more clearly. It sounds like you are very adamantly opposed to circumcision...but maybe are feeling uncomfortable with saying anything that isn't PC...but you don't think that this (keeping a child whole) is the best choice ONLY for your sons, right?
I am very, very, very adamantly opposed to circumcision. I am very opposed not just for my children, but for everyone's children. But, I do think that Jewish and Muslim mamas who are making their choice from a different perspective than mine (and a different worldview at points) are drawing from very different places to make this choice.
I think I've regressed.
Softened, somehow, with time on this issue. After Zain was circed, I was hardcore anti-circ. Then, I listened to a tearful Jewish mother who told me how very important it was for her son to have a bris milah. Listening to her heartfelt words, hearing her utter obedience to a God's edict, watching her sacrifice her son's foreskin for her faith, it changed me somehow. This is a very important rite for Jewish mothers, and when I didn't know or care for any Jewish mothers, I much more toed the intactivist line.
Do I wish that circumcision wasn't part of Judaism? Yes, I think so. Do I think I could be obedient? No, I couldn't.
|I honestly do think that it is still possible to express your feelings as well from a human rights standpoint without offending/ostracizing others. You can express it as your opinion and beliefs.
If I say in a newspaper that I think that circumcision should be made illegal, which is what his question was, then I automatically ostracize the Muslim and Jewish mothers who choose this act as obedience. Can you tell me a kind enough way to answer that question? What I said was "No, I do not think circumcision should be illegal because that would make the procedure illegal for Jewish and Muslim mothers. I'm not at all comfortable with the US making rulings about religious rites." If that makes me not intactivist enough, then so be it.
I guess I am a contradiction. I know I'm an anomaly here at MDC, and perhaps in my own life as well. But, as WW says, "I am large, I contain multitudes."