Two wrongs don't make a right: friends to circ DS#2 - Page 3

[LittleRockstar]

Originally Posted by Novella

Hmmm. . . I see the point. . . I'm just not sure I agree with it 100%. If second son later does experience ballooning, etc, don't you think it would give the parents pause to question what the doctors had told them before about the whole "abnormality" their eldest son experienced?

Considering the rest of the story, it seems more likely that they will think lightening struck them twice and that they need to put another child through that.

[phdmama06]

I agree with previous posters. I think it is wonderful that your friends left their second son intact, but it sounds like their confidence can be easily shaken by what their pedi says, given what happened to their DS #1. And of course, we know how "reliable" (as in not) a lot of pedis' opinions about intact care can be. I believe that gently educating them about what is normal and how to properly care for their DS #2 wouldn't be out of place here. Like someone else said, if DS #2 has the same "hose" effect in a couple of years during separation, it sounds like they might easily be convinced that lightning struck twice and that they'd have to get another circ done. Good luck!

[Quirky]

ITA with the 2 PP -- I think it's far more likely that they will think that intact penises just have things that go wrong, and that circumcision is the way to go.

Also, it might not be ballooning this time around -- what if he has some separation trauma, or a UTI, or a yeast infection, or a mild inflammation, or it's not retractable by a certain age? There are many, many invalid reasons that doctors recommend circumcision. This family is far more likely to fall prey to ignorant medical professionals because they've already done it once -- and they don't want to recognize that they made a mistake once. If they circ the second, they're more likely to feel better about circing the first.

[serendipity22]

Who the *UA violation* circs a five year old without general anesthesia?

The same *UA violation* who circs a newborn (at all, because GA is
too dangerous for newborns).

I would like to add that newborns feel more than 5 years olds.

[Revamp]

Oh wow, how fantastic!

Obviously it is an immense pity about the first one but that any boy has been saved such suffering is superb news.

[Devaskyla]

We had talked about my husband discussing the likelihood that the surgery was unnecessary. But when the time came, my husband felt that it would really hurt our friends and cause them to dwell on something they couldn't change anyway.

They may not be able to change it for their son, but they could be protecting someone else's child from the same thing their went through, if they do something to hold the doctor responsible for his ignorance, inhumanity and violation of medical ethics. They need to know the harm that was caused so that they can protect other children from that pitiful excuse for a human being who they trusted with their child.