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Poll Results: How old is too old for a child to be in a booster seat?

 
  • 16% (23)
    7-9 years
  • 23% (32)
    10 years
  • 5% (7)
    11 years
  • 11% (16)
    12 years
  • 5% (8)
    13 years
  • 2% (4)
    14 years
  • 0% (1)
    15 years
  • 0% (1)
    16 years
  • 0% (1)
    17 years
  • 32% (44)
    18+ years if the person hasn't reached 4ft. 9in.
137 Total Votes  
post #61 of 166
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Originally Posted by BelgianSheepDog View Post
You know what, your car is a dangerous, lethal weapon. If you're worried about people getting killed in it, stop driving it. Otherwise you're going to have to get comfortable with some level of relative risk.
Yes, cars are lethal weapons. There is risk each time we get into one. In many places, they are also a fact of life .. there is no way around having one, and driving it. I'm sorry, but I can't take my clients out on horseback to show them houses.

So why would you not reduce your risk as much as possible, knowing you are getting into a lethal weapon several times a day? It's just crazy logic to say cars are dangerous and kill people anyway, so no need to put a small adult or teen in a booster. That's just nuts. :

FTR, I really don't care or get worked up with what other people do with their kids. Don't put your teen in a booster, I could care less. The question was how long would *I* keep my kid in a booster, and I would do it until a seatbelt fit him properly.
post #62 of 166
It seems one thing to predict now that your five year old will ride in a booster seat when she's sixteen, and another thing entirely to enforce it when she actually reaches that age.

My guess is that most teens truly would prefer to die in a horrific car crash than to use a booster seat, so the battles you mamas are facing on this front are sure to be epic...
post #63 of 166
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Originally Posted by chinaKat View Post
Does anybody posting in this thread that a short teen belongs in a booster seat actually *have* a short teen that rides in a booster seat?

Does anybody even *know* a teen that uses a booster?

Just curious.

I was a short kid, only about 4'10 and 56lbs graduating jr. high (in 1993). I rode in a booster seat through 6th grade and part of 7th.

Did it scar me for life? No. I had the ability to tell my friends to stuff it if they said anything and nyah, nyah, I could see out the window!

My 8yo still rides in a booster in some cars, but not mine. I have an extremely tiny thing and made sure he could sit properly in the seat before allowing him to be out of a booster.

My 5yo has made the decision to stay in a 5pt harness as long as possible, and is anxiously awaiting his new seat this year.
post #64 of 166
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Originally Posted by chinaKat View Post
It seems one thing to predict now that your five year old will ride in a booster seat when she's sixteen, and another thing entirely to enforce it when she actually reaches that age.

My guess is that most teens truly would prefer to die in a horrific car crash than to use a booster seat, so the battles you mamas are facing on this front are sure to be epic...
Yeah.

As far as "reducing risk as much as possible" well, someone sells a helmet for kids learning how to walk, and you could always mount an anti-aircraft weapon on your hood in case someone tries to cut you off. And you could keep a bag mask and defibrillator on your person at all times. You could hire a taster to prevent food poisoning. At some point a line is drawn--due to social standards or money or something--and we say "it's ok to take this much risk."
post #65 of 166
there is reducing risk and then there is reducing risk. All the silly things you mention require a huge amount of effort, cost or trouble. Putting your older child who is still too small for a regular seat belt into a booster isn't hard, doesn't cost much at all, and doesn't require a lot of effort. Just like car seats and seat belts. The reduction of risk for the amount of effort is huge. That's the point.
post #66 of 166
Like Choli said, though, there's probably going to be a considerable amount of effort expended convincing a 16 year old to get in her carseat. There's a big difference between an "older child" and a freakin young adult.

I mean my kid isn't 16, but I doubt 16 year olds have changed much in the last 11 years. I think it's safe to say that wouldn't go over well.
post #67 of 166
for pete's sake, a backless booster is not a CAR SEAT. When I think of car seats I think of 5 points. There are very few 16 yos that would need boosters, but like folks have said repeatedly, those who do, and especially small adults really benefit from them. If I can require my child, no matter what age, to use their seat belt while in a car (I remember the days when parents didn't require this, or when folks considered it their perogative to not wear a belt in another person's vehicle), I can certainly require them to use a booster if they are too small to fit a regular seat belt properly. You sound as if its so hard? Hey, you ride in my car, you wear your seat belt. I ride in your car, we all wear belts or I don't ride. My life is important to me, and maybe you don't see the benefit, but since I have an ER nurse for a partner who sees the dramatic results of not doing these things EVERY SINGLE DAY, these are requirements in our house and vehicles and with the folks we ride with.
post #68 of 166
Honestly, this question really seems like a red herring to me. How many teenagers are under 4 foot 9? According to one of those online calculators, a 13 yo girl at 4 feet 8 3/4 inches is below the 3rd percentile and a boy would be at the 5th. Yes, there are people at that age that are that size. No it doesn't happen frequently. Yes, if one of my children is one of those few, I will expect them to ride safely. That means no sitting in the front seat or in front of an airbag if another option is available. And it means riding in a seat belt that fits them appropriately. We aren't talking about a 5 point harness - we're talking about, basically, a cushion under their butt. If they are 15 or 16 and learning to drive, they would probably need a lift to see over the dash anyhow.
post #69 of 166
Yeah ER nurses and NICU nurses are usually deadset against homebirth too. Confirmation bias and all. I'm all for carseats. I just think the way people beat this dead horse is ridiculous. Keep the state out of our lives when it comes to vax, is the MDC line, but everyone get on your cell and call 911 over carseat infractions! Whatever. I just like consistency now and then.
post #70 of 166
So now vaxes and homebirth get brought in? For the record my ER nurse has no issue with homebirth.
post #71 of 166
All I'm saying is when you spend your day dealing with worst case scenarios, it doesn't erase your general human tendency to generalize from experience.
post #72 of 166
As much as I think vaxes suck and the injuries can be deadly, CAR CRASHES are still in the top 3 killers of kids and adults to 34. If there's one little thing you can do to make sure your kid doesn't join that statistic, why wouldn't you do it? We're all about educating ourselves here aren't we about risks and trying to reduce them (homebirths, not vaxing, not circing etc), but when someone says something about carseats and doing more than the law requires all of a sudden those of us who really care are looked down on? :
post #73 of 166
My dd rode in a booster until she was almost 10 years old, but not every day. It depended on where she had to sit in the car and how tall the seat was (she was too tall for a high back booster but couldn't pass the 5 step test in every seat in the car). In our saturn she didn't need one when she was 8...but in my mini van she needed one until she was almost 10. My son, is 7 1/2 and rides in a turbo booster with a back. He's only 4ft2in
post #74 of 166
My DD is 8 and in a booster. We recently made it backless so that her legs were more comfortable. She will be in one until she reaches 4'9" and can do the 5-step thing.
The same goes for all of my kids.
My DS is 5.5 and in a 5-point harness. He won't sit properly with the booster part of his seat, so he will be with the 5-point until he out grows it.
DD2 was rear facing until 17 months. I want to to be still, but her seat fits in our van tighter facing front, so we feel she is safer this way.
Any kids who ride with us also use a booster. Most don't use one with their own family, but it is the rule in our vehicle.
post #75 of 166
I voted 12, but having now read all the replies maybe that is a bit much?! I don't think a booster is like a carseat though...it's just something to make you higher. Why wouldn't you want to see out the window if you are small:

I would never force a child to sit in one, but I think they would want to?
post #76 of 166
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I would never force a child to sit in one, but I think they would want to?
I don't understand this. So when your child decids at 5 that they are too old for a booster, you wouldn't force the issue? To me allowing our children to make their own decisions for life and death things before they are mentally old enough to wrap their head around death and it's permanancy is bad parenting.
post #77 of 166
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Originally Posted by thepeach80 View Post
I don't understand this. So when your child decids at 5 that they are too old for a booster, you wouldn't force the issue? To me allowing our children to make their own decisions for life and death things before they are mentally old enough to wrap their head around death and it's permanancy is bad parenting.

At 5? No ,I wouldn't force it. But I really don't get why a child wouldn't want to sit on a booster...it enables them to see out the window! I, right now have a carseat-hating child. Every journey is a struggle. I can totally understand children not wanting to be in carseats, but why would a child object to a booster? (I actually don't know if I want the answer to this question! ) I was thinking after we ditch the carseats, we are on the way to harmonious travel!:
post #78 of 166
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Originally Posted by roxyrox View Post
I can totally understand children not wanting to be in carseats, but why would a child object to a booster?
A child, probably not... but a teen is another story. If you look up "object" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of an eyerolling teenager. My niece objects to her mom's pants before they leave the house.
post #79 of 166
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Originally Posted by dallaschildren View Post
What year, make and model of the car, did the seats come from? What make model and year of vehicle are the seats in now?
The car is a 2000 Chevy Astro cargo van. The car seats (not the child carseats, the regular seats) we bought separately from a van conversion company (so they weren't necessarily made by a car manufacturer) and they only have lapbelts.

We also have a 2004 Toyota Sienna with the right equipment so generally it's not a problem, but on occasion we might need to transport both kids in the cargo van and then it's a problem.
post #80 of 166
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Originally Posted by aprilushka View Post
The car is a 2000 Chevy Astro cargo van. The car seats (not the child carseats, the regular seats) we bought separately from a van conversion company (so they weren't necessarily made by a car manufacturer) and they only have lapbelts.

We also have a 2004 Toyota Sienna with the right equipment so generally it's not a problem, but on occasion we might need to transport both kids in the cargo van and then it's a problem.
There are also harness vests that can be used to turn a lap belt only into a harnessed seat which would work too if you can't get them retrofitted. I'm not sure if they would be able to do that since they're not original seats.
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