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post #1 of 7
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my ds is 9months old. hes happy, healthy, a little ahead in most of his developments both physically and mentally, never seems dehydrated and has usually at least one dirty diaper a day - but definitely not nearly as chubby as a lot of babies i've seen. af came back into my life about 3months ago, and i definitely have noticed a difference in my ability to pump since then. i've been eating oatmeal every day for breakfast, drink at least 2 cups of mothers milk tea every day that i work (he seems perfectly satisfied with what he gets nursing on my days off of work) i drink lots and lots of water, i've been taking more cal/mag (even mama calm, a powdered mag supplement) and now, i'm starting on fenugreek ....
anyway, i pump 3x in 8hrs at work, and am only getting an average of 6oz total. i've tried bringing the pump home and can barely pump anything at all here (as if my body is like "uh, this isn't felix, what the h@#% are you trying to do here!" ) ds still nurses pretty frequently through the night, max time without is 3hrs, nurses at least 2x before i go to work and usually 2x before even going to bed. soooooo, is 6oz enough while i'm at work? he LOVES solid foods, everything i've given him so far, gobbles it up saying um um um the whole time. i'm just tired tired tired of worrying about how much i can pump (yes, i know stress can affect your milk) i'm just sooo tired of the dang tea, doesnt taste that good, and i honestly am a little concerned about throwing off my milk balance .. he's almost always satisfied with one side when he nurses and i dont want for him to not get enough hind milk because i'm making myself overproduce just so that i can pump more. i also really dont want to have to continue to pump after a year, as i hate pumping and my cooworkers are beyond annoyed at how much time i spend a shift doing it (i work for 911 and only one person can be out of the room at a time).
guess i have another part to this question ... how do you phase out of pumping at work and make sure your dc is getting enough food and such while you're at work?
post #2 of 7
It sounds like your DS may be reverse cycling - not taking as much milk while you are away and making up for it when you are home. This is good. The problem seems to be that your pump isn't working for you. What kind of pump do you have? Have you tried other pumps? Liking solids is great but he really needs to be getting most of his calories from breastmilk for at least the first year. When you do offer solids I would try to offer high fat choices - full fat yogurt, avocado, etc. If you decide to stop pumping after he turns a year you can still nurse when you are together. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

As far as his growth, as long as he seems to be finding his own pattern of growth it doesn't really matter how he compares to other babies.
post #3 of 7
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i use a pis .... unfortunately being a single mom i dont have any money to buy a new one
i know he needs pretty much all his calories from bm ... and tell my mom that every day!!! she just keeps giving him more and more solids. she's my main childcare provider, again as i'm a single mom - homeowner too.
thanks for the input
anyone else?
please?
post #4 of 7
It does sound like your DS is reverse cycling. It also sounds like pumping is getting to be very stressful for you. Here are some questions I have:

What is your ultimate goal? Do you want to stop pumping altogether at work and continue nursing him when you are together? How long would you like to continue nursing?

Are you concerned about your supply overall, or just with regards to pumping?

Are you concerned about DS's weight gain?

Are you ok with your mother giving solids, or is this a source of concern?

Just trying to make sure I know where you're coming from before I start wading in with advice.
post #5 of 7
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thanks rupiezum
i want to nurse until he weans himself. i also agree and am aware that bm should be like 95% of his nutrition for the first year. i am a little concerned about my supply overall too but most especially while pumping ... but i would love to be able to quit pumping after the first year (honestly, if its ok to start that now, since he nurses quite a bit while we are together, i'd be ok with that, to cut out some of the stress in my life : as i know my stress does also affect him)

eta, on a side note, i actually pump less the first couple days of my work week, unlike most people i've read and know ... have always found that weird, cuz usually your dc helps your supply ... i wonder if its again my body trying to reject the pump?
post #6 of 7
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anyone else?
please? :
post #7 of 7
Jen, you don't need anyone's permission or approval to stop pumping. If it's not working for you, it's not working for you. It sounds like it's really stressful; perhaps the best thing for you is to stop with the pumping so you can simply enjoy your time nursing when you're with DS. Only you can make that decision.

If this is what you decide to do, and if he's comfortably eating solids, then he won't starve while you're at work. It sounds like your mom has no problem offering him enough . Just make sure it's good, nutritious food. If you have any concerns about weight gain see fewer wet diapes, etc., then you should check in with your pediatrician.

If you decide to cease pumping, then don't do it cold turkey. There's a great guide at kellymom on how to gradually wean from the pump. And make sure that you're allowing DS to nurse as much as you both are comfortable with when you two are together.

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