what are the chances i ovulated/am pregnant? dying for some feedback/2WW

[barcelona]

so, given the situation i'm about to describe, what would you say my chances of being pregnant are?...

i've been on the mini-pill and recently decided to stop it and start FAM. i've read TCOYF, and being in this post-pill period, not to mention that i am breastfeeding my 20 mo DS and have yet to get a ppAF, know that i can't rely on it for BC yet.

i explained everything to my DH, including that i thought i might be fertile yesterday, and we agreed we would riskily practice withdrawal (as we wouldn't mind having another, though we'd prefer to wait til our DS is older...but, honestly, i'd be thrilled to have another now), and when i was fertile, we'd abstain or use other barrier methods.

so, last night, we DTD without protection and he didn't withdraw! i was going to say something, but didn't want to spoil the mood, and i tend always to be reminding him and he hates that. we'd had the conversation just a couple of hours before, so i knew he knew. afterwards, we talked about it, and he said...oh yeah...and smiled and said, well, if i am, no problem.

i checked my cervix and my CM, and i seem to be ovulating, or at least quite fertile, with the seemingly appropriate CM and a soft, high, and open cervix. if so, i would have done the BD right at my fertile time.

so, what do you think the chances are that i am/did actually ovulate? and if so, what are the chances that i'm pregnant?


FYI, my 20 mo DS still nurses frequently, but i would have thought i'd have AF back by now, as he does go fairly long spurts, especially at night.

thanks for your thoughts, opinions, input, etc....

and FYI, if i am pregnant, i'll be happy and excited, and if i'm not, i'll be fine and relieved to ttc when we are really really ready.

[MaryLang]

Well under those circumstances I would say your chances are good. But it could totally go 50/50. I myself have had oopsie days/perfect timing ovulationwise and ended up not pregnant, and am super fertile. But I have also gotten pregnant that way too. The average time for healthy couples TTC successfully is 3 months of perfect timing. I guess what I'm saying is it sounds like you have a better than average chance (not knowing your reg cycle lengths/ovulation days), but wouldn't get too set on it being one way or the other. Its just a waiting game now.

[bananabug]

We've had oops's during my very fertile time in the past few months, but I haven't gotten PG. But then again, our two kids were oops's! I had almost the same exact experience as you yesterday morning, telling DH that we had to be careful (I had lots of EWCM) and he didn't withdraw. Then last night I had the telltale ovulation pain and my temp was up this morning. But we were in the exact same situation 2 months ago and did not get PG. So I guess you never know!

Good luck with however it turns out for you!

[barcelona]

Thank you!

Thanks for your replies, mamas! Guess I am in the waiting game, and am trying not to obsess and make myself crazy. And good luck to you, too, bananabug, with whatever happens for you! Keep us posted, and I'll do the same, esp. if I do get a BFP.

[bananabug]

I know all about obsessing! After our oops 2 months ago, my chart looked triphasic and I made myself totally crazy thinking about it. I even had some supposed early pregnancy symptoms- nausea, food cravings, etc but it was just bad pms mixed with the effects of obsessing too much. I'm going to try really hard not to think about it this month!

[barcelona]

and how many dpo will you test?
is 10 dpo too early or standard?

[bananabug]

I've read that many test at 10 dpo as the earliest date to get a positive. But I'm not planning to test. Unless I'm really truly late! Last month I was taking vitex and it did something to my luteal phase, because AF didn't show until 18 dpo. I stopped the vitex when I ovulated this month, so hopefully my LP won't be that long again.

We're moving on the 20th, so that should keep me distracted. Of course there's that old wives tale about moving into a new house and being PG (happened for us with our first)!

[bananabug]

I realized it was dpo 9 today for me and thought it might be the same for you, Barcelona. Are you going to test tomorrow?

[barcelona]

bananabug, today was 10 DPO for me, and I tested this morning. Got a BFN. Partly relieved, and partly sad and disappointed. Funny how that happens...the wait almost gets me built up and dreaming of an "oops" and how we'd make it work and almost getting excited about the possibility.

of course, i realize I still could be and it not show up til later. had a lot of cramping today, which is either AF on its way or something else.

if AF hasn't come by the end of the week, and i feel anything, i'll probably test again.

what about you?? will you test tomorrow at 10 DPO?

[bananabug]

I completely understand those feelings- went through it all a few months back. I've been trying not to think about it this month. I haven't temped since dpo 5 because we've been away on vacation and I purposely left the thermometer at home so I wouldn't obsess! I'm having all of my usual PMS symptoms, so I don't have any reason to think I could be PG except for that oops. I realized though that this was a worse oops than a few months ago- that oops was on the day before I O'd, this one was on the day I O'd. Anyway, I don't think I will test unless I am truly late.

Let me know if you test again! What do you think your normal LP would be?

[barcelona]

when should you start your period?
i have no idea how long my LP is.
it has been 2.5 years since i've had a period, and it's been 5 years since i've had my "own" cycle (the rest of the time i had "perfectly timed" periods on the pill, i.e. artificial hormones).

i'm now 12DPO, and yesterday and today i have been having major cramping. it feels like AF cramping, although when i used to have cramping before, it would be the day before i started, and the day of....and i still haven't started. so i'm at least curious. i also had a lot of creamy CM today. i guess i'll see how i feel, and if AF comes, and if i'm still really crampy and no AF by the weekend, i'll test again.

[bananabug]

I usually have a fairly long LP- 15-16 days, and last month it was 18 (but I was taking vitex and have since stopped). I O'd on the 30th, so AF should arrive sometime on or after Sunday the 15th. Still getting all of my usual PMS symptoms- ate everything in sight this past week, broke out on my chin, sore breasts, etc.

Are you charting temps?

[barcelona]

i'm not charting temps, unfortunately, though i have had a lowgrade fever since i possibly O'd...i know that's not really the same thing. i'm not technically temping, as i'm not doing it the same time each day, and not even recording. i just read TCOYF this month. i will definitely start temping as soon as i start AF, assuming i start.

do you know how many days past implantation it takes for a positive to show up?

i'm just weirded out and freaking out a little, since i've never had this crampy feeling for two full days without AF. of course, my body could easily be changing since i'm PP, and my first natural cycle in years...another question: is it common/possible for the creamy CM to be period-related and not pregnancy-related. i have much to learn about my body!!!

keep me posted if you get AF or not on Sunday. i'll be thinking about you.

[bananabug]

It's nice to chat with someone else in the same situation! I'm not sure about how long it takes for a positive to show up. With my kiddos, I was totally clueless until about 6 weeks along and then was like, "wait, where is my period?" I do remember with my last pregnancy I went to my doctor and got a very faint positive in the afternoon at six weeks. So I think it depends on your own body and how fast it produces the hcg hormone that the tests detect. I definitely remember with my pregnancies having lots of cramping (it was the worst with my first- woke me up at night) and I thought AF was coming. Then a week or two later I realized AF had never shown up. But now I often have several days of cramping before AF- it seems like my cycles have changed since getting to my mid-thirties.

I get creamy cm before my period every cycle. But it is also an indicator of PG. Here's what I just found in TCOYF:
(p. 61) "Finally, in the day or so before menstruation, women may occasionally notice a very wet, watery sensation, which in some women even resembles watery eggwhite. This is due to the drop in progesterone that precedes the disintegration of the lining of the uterus."

and on p.169, this is listed as a pregnancy symptom:
"creamy cervical fluid starting in the latter part of the luteal phase and continuing throughout the pregnancy". So I guess it could be either!

[barcelona]

it IS so nice to chat with someone in the same situation. very comforting.

with my first, it was a few days after my period, too, that i realized it was late, and then tested, and the ept was immediately very dark with a positive.

do you know if it's possible to have different experiences with different pregnancies? meaning, with my first, i don't remember experiencing any cramping during possible implantation (although i suppose it's possible, since i had no idea i was pregnant, and didn't suspect it/think about it)...

my cramping yesterday was much less severe than the day before, and today it's even milder. and still no AF. what does it all mean? i'm driving myself crazy. i did some research online last night and did read that sometimes the implantation cramping can feel just like period cramping, and can last just one or two days, which would be exactly what i just experienced. i guess i'll just see if AF shows up.

but then i also realize my body could just be acting strangely, with no AF and no pregnancy, but just acting kooky, since it's going through a lot of changes right now.

i'm not sure if i should test again today or not. i'm not very patient, can you tell? . and am truly trying not to obsess, but it's difficult. i was resigned to AF with the cramping, but now that no AF, back to obsessing, and wondering if my hormones would show up in a test or not. we'll see if i can restrain myself today.

i'll keep you posted...again, thanks for chatting and sharing with me. it is really nice.

hope you're having a good day (and are feeling calm and patient, unlike me!)

[bananabug]

I think it could be possible to have different experiences. I think after you have a pregnancy, you're much more aware of what your body is doing. So maybe you didn't notice cramping the first time around, but would the next.

I started have creamy cm today, which is about when I usually have it before AF. Some months I cramp like crazy several days before AF, and then the cramping stops, and then AF arrives. Other months I don't cramp until after AF arrives. I don't know why it varies for me, but it does make me a little nuts (especially on months where I'm wondering!)

Maybe test again in the am with FMU?

[bananabug]

Did you test this morning? I started getting cramps last night- we must be in sync! I also started getting nausea yesterday- but I got it last month right before my period too. Yuck!

[barcelona]

I tested this afternoon, which was silly and foolish...I was planning to wait til Sunday to test, but was overcome with the temptation to test this afternoon. So, it was pretty diluted...and yes, a negative. I thought I could maybe sort of see a really really faint line if I turned it, but I was most likely imagining things.

Yesterday and the day before, I was feeling like I really might be pregnant...feeling nauseaus and smelling a lot, but I think it was just normal me and paying more attention to things. The negative HPT definitely makes me think I'm not pregnant...but there is still time.

My cramping continues to subside, although my breasts and lower back are quite sore. Makes me think it could be my body acting wacky b/c of the changes, or I'm pregnant, and it's not going to show up for a while.

I read that it takes 3 to 4 days after implantation for a positive to show up (and could take longer, I suppose), so if my cramping was implantation, it would show up today or tomorrow.

I'm really going to try to refrain from testing tomorrow and wait til Sunday to test again.

Let me know how it goes for you this weekend. You'll know either way by Sunday, right?

[bananabug]

Sunday would be the earliest AF would arrive- but could show up as late as wednesday.

Keep me updated!

[hmberhalter]

i'm in the exact same boat w/you guys! i posted a different thread but didn't get many responses. i don't do temps b/c DS nurses randomly throughtout the early morning hours, so i could never seem to find a pattern and quit. but the other signs seem to show that i may have finally ovulated on tuesday, so that puts me maybe dpo 4, and i am also feeling very crampy, exhausted and total breast tenderness/soarness. oh boy. i'm also in the "wasn't planning this, but it wouldn't be bad" situation. i'm trying to hold off til a week from tomorrow to start testing.