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post #41 of 582
7/8/07 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by Kristinmcall View Post
I'm sorry, but I have to say something that I think might be offensive to some. I know I don't know most of you; I'm a lurker, but this is something that I think is incredibly important. I think that using HF to represent Heavenly Father is so terribly disrespectful. It feels so irreverent to me! This isn't entirely personal opinion either. I've heard countless times in church lessons the importance of treating any form of our Heavenly Fathers name with the greatest respect and reverence. It seems that abbreviating it brings His name down to a casual worldly level that I'm just not comfortable with.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone; that wasn't my intent at all. Please think about it though
: Thank you for saying so.

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post #42 of 582
7/9/07 at 12:38am
I just want to add that I think that you are all wonderful people and I've really learned a lot from these threads. I think it's absolutely wonderful to a have a support system for those of us who might not fit in with the more mainstream LDS families. We've lived in several wards and even though everyone has always been incredibly kind to us I have felt like an outsider because I've made some choices that others would never consider. And I'm not nearly as "crunchy" as most in this forum!
post #43 of 582
7/9/07 at 1:33am
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Originally Posted by Kristinmcall View Post
I'm sorry, but I have to say something that I think might be offensive to some. I know I don't know most of you; I'm a lurker, but this is something that I think is incredibly important. I think that using HF to represent Heavenly Father is so terribly disrespectful. It feels so irreverent to me! This isn't entirely personal opinion either. I've heard countless times in church lessons the importance of treating any form of our Heavenly Fathers name with the greatest respect and reverence. It seems that abbreviating it brings His name down to a casual worldly level that I'm just not comfortable with.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone; that wasn't my intent at all. Please think about it though
i never even thought about it.
you're absolutly right, in my mind. i will try and remember this is the future.
post #44 of 582
7/9/07 at 1:34am
guess who is giving a talk on Sunday?


yup, that would be Robbie and i
i knew there was a reason i didn't want to be reinstated. : KIDDING!
post #45 of 582
7/9/07 at 2:06am
oh! and we met with the Bishop and set a time frame for getting to the temple. we're looking at mid October!
post #46 of 582
7/9/07 at 2:12am
That's so exciting!
post #47 of 582
7/9/07 at 2:17am
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Originally Posted by Kristinmcall View Post
I'm sorry, but I have to say something that I think might be offensive to some. I know I don't know most of you; I'm a lurker, but this is something that I think is incredibly important. I think that using HF to represent Heavenly Father is so terribly disrespectful. It feels so irreverent to me! This isn't entirely personal opinion either. I've heard countless times in church lessons the importance of treating any form of our Heavenly Fathers name with the greatest respect and reverence. It seems that abbreviating it brings His name down to a casual worldly level that I'm just not comfortable with.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone; that wasn't my intent at all. Please think about it though
That depends on where you are coming from. In the Jewish faith, anything with the name of God written on it can never be destroyed or ruined, so she always writes Gd or G-d, even in emails, and I often do the same thing. So under certain circumstances, an abbreviation can be considered respectful.

Darn it, I did it again. This is Alisa not Bryan. I hope I don't get banned for this.
post #48 of 582
7/9/07 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by NewCrunchyDaddy View Post
That depends on where you are coming from. In the Jewish faith, anything with the name of God written on it can never be destroyed or ruined, so she always writes Gd or G-d, even in emails, and I often do the same thing. So under certain circumstances, an abbreviation can be considered respectful.
To me the difference would be the intent-- is one shortening for convenience or out of respect?

The custom refered to in the Jewish faith sounds like one of the symbolic customs that was done away with (for us) with the old law. I mean, that's certainly not a latter-day teaching. I've thrown away lots of paper products with the various names of God on them, and with no disrespect of course-- I just can't have paper clutter everywhere-- old talks, Ensigns, lesson notes, etc etc.

I have not used the abbreviation 'HF' (I don't think) because when I have gone to use it, it just didn't sound right to me-- didn't express the love and tender devotion I feel for Him. I never thought about it being disrespectful. That's an interesting thought.

So, church was wonderful yesterday. All of yesterday was great. Tonight we are going to dinner with my Dad, which is great because he lives on the other side of th country and we haven't seen him in 10 months. He's never met DS2. Last night was . . . rough, though. DS1 had nightmares or something, starting at about 11:30 at night, and it took hours to really get him back to sleep-- he kept waking and wimpering in his sleep before that. I assume it was nightmares, I suppose he could have felt sick or something, I don't know. I'm really tired.
post #49 of 582
7/9/07 at 9:18am
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Originally Posted by LionTigerBear View Post
Last night was . . . rough, though. DS1 had nightmares or something, starting at about 11:30 at night, and it took hours to really get him back to sleep-- he kept waking and wimpering in his sleep before that. I assume it was nightmares, I suppose he could have felt sick or something, I don't know. I'm really tired.
When DS had this problem I gave him a father's blessing and that was the end of it. If it is a problem that continues, it is something you may want to consider.
post #50 of 582
7/9/07 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by magstphil View Post
i never even thought about it.
you're absolutly right, in my mind. i will try and remember this is the future.
Exactly. When I saw this, I felt like it was put in a more angry, chastising way... and I honestly didn't know if I had ever done that. I usually type it all out... I can't even remember if I've ever abbreviated- and I love the thought. Regardless, I loved the issue being addressed.. I just wish it had been done in a less condescending way. Maybe I'm just sensitive though. Thanks for addressing the issue though.
post #51 of 582
7/9/07 at 2:04pm
Alisa, they do pay teachers very well in AK, that's true! I think you guys would love it there.
post #52 of 582
7/9/07 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by NewCrunchyDaddy View Post
Miss Brighton, now that you're back, are we going to get our first weekly assignment on the emergency prep/food storage blog?
I did do one already...anybody notice?!
Anyway, I'm going there right now to post from my comprehensive list.

jenni
post #53 of 582
7/9/07 at 5:51pm
Hi, I'm Shannon. I live in Las Vegas with my dh & 4 kiddos. I've posted in one of these threads once, a while back, but can't ever seem to keep up with them. I'm really going to try this time, though.

I'm really bothered by some of the things I'm seeing here on MDC. I've been here for a while now, mainly hanging out in the pg forums, but am just beginning to see there seems to be a lot of liberal parents on these boards.

I cannot fathom why a parent would think it's okay for a 15 y.o. to look at porn....any porn; hard, soft, luke warm, whatever.....ever. It blows my mind that I'm the minority in this thread

That's not the only thread that's under my skin, but I don't need any more examples.

Do you find it difficult to be among so many extreme liberals? Does it bother you that they're raising the children your children will possibly be hanging out with?

I totally get that these forums wouldn't work if everyone had the same opinions....I wouldn't want that. I'm just surprised to find out how other parents view things I am vehemently against.

Ugh. I'll stop now. Like I said, it's under my skin today & I can't seem to shake it. Sorry for the rant.

Shannon
post #54 of 582
7/9/07 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by brightonwoman View Post
I did do one already...anybody notice?!
Anyway, I'm going there right now to post from my comprehensive list.

jenni
i ddon't have the link. can you throw it my way?
post #55 of 582
7/9/07 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by sbm1001 View Post
Do you find it difficult to be among so many extreme liberals? Does it bother you that they're raising the children your children will possibly be hanging out with?
well, define "extreme liberal". i have issues with any extremism although Dh and i are pretty darn liberal, politically. the example you gave with porn being"okay" with parents among their teenage children is a gray area, IMO. i, personally, feel that the age of consent should be around 16 or so for most people and that porn is a choice. i don't feel we should ban all forms of porn meaning pornography that is between adults at the age of consent being watched by adults at the age of consent is, well, none of our business. they can do with their agency what they will do. so, no i don't feel that it is "okay" for my kids at their age now to be watching porn. that, to me, is a form of sexual abuse because they have no idea what is going on or why etc etc. even so at 15. but at 16 it's their thing. no way would i condone it in my home or as a behavior but at that age they are at a point they can, and more than likely will regardless of law, watch what they will.

i take more issue with the ultra conservatives. i worry about the prejudices my children will grow with. with the ultra liberals, although i disagree with any form of extremism like i said, for the most part they are in their corner doing their thing. but with the ubber conservatives, their bigotry is right there and they are demanding it from all. one of my most "favorite" things that a member co worker of my DH said while talking about Bush vs Kerry was this: "better dead Arabs over there than a bunch of f**s over here" :Puke
no, not all conservatives are like this. i know this for fact and i respect and love everyone's opinion when it does not effect other's way of life. i do have to say that i am very concerned that such a blatant corrupt administration is excused because they are anti- same sex marriage and pro life when their obvious lies that have killed so many are ignored. where is the morality in that? what is that teaching my children? what values are they receiving from that train of thought that is popular in LDS culture? i am very worried that my children will grow up with this warped definition of "freedom". with the mentality that it's every man for himself and that what's good for business is good for the country and that different choices/lifestyles/natural inclinations make one 'evil' or 'less human'. i don't know how i would approach that. having that attitude towards one's brothers and sisters of this wonderful world scares me more than the thought that they might have a friend that watches porn with their parents approval. but yes, the latter grosses me out, if that's all you were wondering. there are just far worse things, IMO.
post #56 of 582
7/9/07 at 9:05pm
so i just got "Eve and the Choice Made in Eden" in the mail and it hit me: where is Valerie? where has she been? did i miss something? Valerie, if you're out there let us know you're alive and well!!
post #57 of 582
7/10/07 at 2:04am
Valarie hasn't been on MDC since May 24th. I wonder where she went! Come back Valarie!
post #58 of 582
7/10/07 at 2:06am
Maggie, what's your topic for you talk on Sunday? I'm so glad I get to hide in the primary away from the bishopric! I suck at talks!
post #59 of 582
7/10/07 at 3:28am
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Originally Posted by Kelly1216 View Post
Maggie, what's your topic for you talk on Sunday? I'm so glad I get to hide in the primary away from the bishopric! I suck at talks!
"If Ye Be Willing and Obedient"

i plan on opening with "these are fairly new concepts to me"
post #60 of 582
7/10/07 at 3:39am
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Originally Posted by brightonwoman View Post
I did do one already...anybody notice?!
Anyway, I'm going there right now to post from my comprehensive list.

jenni
I've added quite a few posts, myself

Got my computer back today. Feels SOOOOOOO GOOOOOD, for both of us.
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