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post #461 of 582
The SS lesson coming up ..well I hope I'm not there for other reasons like maybe going into labor or just had a baby...lol
But since my ward is mostly made up of people my parents age I doubt anything will really even be said.

Last night I caught a stomach bug. 9 months preggo and throwing up is not cool. It's 10 times worse. I really hope it doesn't trigger labor because I do not want to be this miserable and in labor. As of an hour ago I've finally managed to keep small sips of water down so I hope it is just a 12 hr bug. My tummy hurts soo bad and every time the baby moves it makes me nauseated.
post #462 of 582
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Originally Posted by nakagain View Post
The SS lesson coming up ..well I hope I'm not there for other reasons like maybe going into labor or just had a baby...lol
But since my ward is mostly made up of people my parents age I doubt anything will really even be said.

Last night I caught a stomach bug. 9 months preggo and throwing up is not cool. It's 10 times worse. I really hope it doesn't trigger labor because I do not want to be this miserable and in labor. As of an hour ago I've finally managed to keep small sips of water down so I hope it is just a 12 hr bug. My tummy hurts soo bad and every time the baby moves it makes me nauseated.
*hugs* I had the flu the day before I was induced with DS. It's not fun. I hope you're feeling better.
post #463 of 582
As far as NIP in church. I could care less what anyone says.
When we 1st moved here last summer I nursed my youngest in SM until she was 2. It was when I got pregnant that I no longer had milk so I wonder how long she would have nursed if I never gotten pregnant.

I hate to feel as if I need to leave and miss out on a lesson just because I'm nursing. The speakers in the ML aren't very good and of course it smells.

I'm already the odd ball because I home school(thats been a plus because my dd's teachers comment how smart my kids are) and word got out I'm having a homebirth and I've never really told anyone and gossip has gotten back to me. Just wait until I have my baby and have my slings, cloth diapers and ((gasp) nurse where ever the heck I am.

Now I have a weird question...does anyone "look" stereo typical of a crunchy mama?

I for sure don't.
post #464 of 582
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Now I have a weird question...does anyone "look" stereo typical of a crunchy mama?

I for sure don't.
I can nearly sit on my hair. Does that count?
Other than that, I generally wear a suit to church, so no, I wouldn't say I look crunchy. The rest of the time, it's jeans and a t-shirt.
post #465 of 582
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Now I have a weird question...does anyone "look" stereo typical of a crunchy mama?
I'm not even sure what the stereotypical crunchy mama look is, but I do think that I look different than many (most) of my fellow female ward members. Even the ladies in their 50's in our ward wear stylish newer clothes, have styled/dyed/highlighted hair, makeup, etc. I trend more toward the 'plain' woman look, often wearing little/no makeup, simple hairstyles (I haven't had a trim since November 2005, and I will *never* dye, other than henna, which I've only done once), and I wear simple/unstylish clothes. I also wear nylons and dress shoes, which has always made me look different than women my age (they usually wear sandals). There are a couple of other ladies that I can think of who wear simple hairstyles and little or no makeup, but only a few. And nearly everyone in the entire world is more stylish than me, so I think they have a little advantage still on their clothes
post #466 of 582
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I can nearly sit on my hair.
You can?! How exciting!!! I am a long-hair lover, and am SLOWLY getting there.

I think I look silly in these pictures, so I'm hesitant to share, but I have a blog post about my hair adventures, so rather than hijack this thread even worse than I already am, I'll just link to the post: http://katieswords.blogspot.com/2006/11/last-day.html

That post was written in November, and now the longest pieces of my hair are at about armpit length.

The 2nd picture of me in that post is the most makeup that I EVER wear, for any occasion.

I tried blowdrying my hair straight the other day to see how long it was when straight, but it just didn't work out for me It's SO curly that I have to really abuse it to get it straight. That means at least 20-30 minutes of blowdrying time. And when I spend so long blowdrying, I start to sweat, which means it just goes curly again, lol. I used to blowdry with a round brush and then follow that with a ceramic straight iron, but I got rid of both - I am not abusing my hair in the name of fashion any more! I am sure that it did not use to take me 20-30 minutes to blowdry, but I guess it's been so long since I did it that I've forgotten how!
post #467 of 582
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Now I have a weird question...does anyone "look" stereo typical of a crunchy mama?

I for sure don't.
I don't think I do. Living here in Oregon, I actually *look* very mainstream.

I have other good news. The first Sunday we moved here I noticed another girl that I grew up with walking into Sunday School with her daughter in a pouch. Then I've seen her a few times in the mother's lounge, nursing her 8 month old baby... and just last week I found out she cloth diapers. (She commented on my cloth diapers and was explaining how she needed to move to the next size up.) This girl has two children, her oldest is a few months older than Kathryn. I'm thinking we should definitely hang out more.

Also, my visiting teacher commented on my cloth diapers when she visited last week. (My girls were running around without pants on. ) She mentioned that she'd been thinking about doing cloth to save some $$ since she'll have two in diapers soon. (She's due in September) I had a handout leftover from a cloth-diapering party I did in Utah... so I gave her one... we'll see where that goes.

Maybe I'll have to start slowly converting my ward.

Emily
post #468 of 582
I don't think I look crunchy at all... unless I'm babywearing or caught in the middle of a cloth diaper change. But as far as my attire, probably not.
post #469 of 582
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I wear simple/unstylish clothes.
I wanted to clarify that I don't do this on purpose. It's just that when talents and aptitudes were passed out, 'style' bypassed me completely. The times when I've had clothes that really looked good on me were when dh has picked them out

Marly may be able to confirm this - in junior high/high school, I often wore normal clothes (jeans and t-shirt or polo shirt), but I distinctly remember that my favorite outfit to wear was my mom's old bell bottoms (from the 70's) with a bright orange Hawaiian-themed silk shirt that I found at the D.I. (thrift store).
post #470 of 582
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You can?! How exciting!!! I am a long-hair lover, and am SLOWLY getting there.
I like long hair too. This is a picture of me pregnant with DS. And for you Oregonians, this was taken on a highway west of Portland, on our way to the coast.

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That post was written in November, and now the longest pieces of my hair are at about armpit length.

The 2nd picture of me in that post is the most makeup that I EVER wear, for any occasion.
You look great! I'm sure you know how many people are jealous of your curls. It's amazing how we want what we don't have. Anyway, good luck growing.
post #471 of 582
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I'm sure you know how many people are jealous of your curls. It's amazing how we want what we don't have.
So true! Since I've been growing my hair out and visiting a long hair forum, I've really learned to love my hair more, so my main complaint about it now is that it takes so much longer to get the appearance of length when your hair has to grow around and around instead of straight down!
post #472 of 582
Pamela, I am so sorry you are feeling sick.

Katie, I'm pretty stylish, but I lean towards slightly more bohemian styles when I have a choice among the cheap brands I buy and I wear light (usually natural brand) makeup or no makeup (usually no makeup just because I don't have time and it's not a priority). My hairstyle is fairly simple but always in keeping with current fashions and either lightly styled or unstyled. I get a few "natural" highlights when I can afford it, which has been infrequently so far. Basically I have no problem with looking fashionable as long as it's not my main priority, because there's so much more that is important to me! So do I look "earthy"?-- probably not too much unless I'm wearing my baby at the time.
post #473 of 582
Okay, crunchy saints, I am trying to come up with our family bill of rights. this is my answer to the traditional "household rules". I was inspired by the "Unhindered Living" website and used that as my template. I intend to emblazon my version upon a piece of posterboard and hang it proudly for all to see.

However, it is still a work in progress and is currently too long to fit on posterboard. Care to help? All LDS opinions welcome. What did I leave out, what is needlessly redundant?

[Wow, after pasting it in, it really IS very long. *sigh*]

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Our Family’s Bill of Rights

These rights apply equally to all adults and children within our household.


Each of us is a spirit child of Heavenly Father and entitled to free agency. Each of us has the right to make our own choices as long as they do not infringe on other people’s free agency.

Each of us has the right to follow our own values and standards, as long as we are gentle and respectful of others’ feelings and free agency.

Each of us has a right to dignity and respect.

Each of us has a right to all of our feelings, all of the time.

Each of us has a right to express ourselves, as long as
we do so as gently and thoughtfully as we know how.

Each of us has a right to determine and honor our own priorities.

Each of us has a right to recognize and accept our own value system and spiritual beliefs, as long as we are gentle and respectful of others’ feelings and free agency.

Each of us has a right to have our needs and wants fully respected by the other members in our family.

Each of us has the right to say NO to anything if we don’t feel ready, if we feel unsafe, or if we feel that something violates our conscience.

Each of us has the right to make mistakes without being shamed or belittled.

Each of us has the right NOT to be held responsible for other people’s choices.

Each of us has a right to be uniquely ourselves, without feeling that we are not good enough.

Each of us has the right to make our own decisions based on our own feelings and judgment.

Each of us has the right to change our mind at any time.

Each of us has the right to our own personal space and time when and as we need it.

Each of us has the right to be in a safe, non-abusive environment at all times.

Each of us has the right to forgive ourselves and to forgive others. Each child in our family has a right to forgiveness from their parents.

Each of us has the right to give and receive unconditional love.

Each of us has the right to enjoy and control our own bodies as we see fit.

Each of us has the right to grieve when we don't get what we want, and when we do get something we didn’t want.

Each of us has the right to joyfully receive without feeling guilty.

Each of us has the right to terminate conversations for any reason.

Each of us has the right to be relaxed and playful. Each of us has the right to enjoy humor, as long as it is not at the expense of another soul.

Each of us has a right to expect honesty from the other members of the family.

Each of us has the right to change and grow.

Each of us has the right to be happy.
post #474 of 582
LTB -
I don't have any comments on the rights you've included, but seeing them written out like that, particularly with the "These rights apply equally to all adults and children within our household" at the top really made me think about how we (myself personally, and people in general) treat children differently than adults. Any adult would be horrified if another adult tried to challenge their right to any of these things, yet if you asked those same adults which of the statements apply to children, they'd probably cross about half of them off. Unfortunately, this includes me. Wow - epiphany time.
post #475 of 582
oooohhh, LTB! i have been toying around with the idea of a family bill of rights for a bit now and i love yours!
i also want to have a family motto/mission statement and a family scripture. i have this fantasy where i have just finished crossstritching it all up all nice and pretty and am hanging it beside the front door.
post #476 of 582
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Originally Posted by klg47 View Post
seeing them written out like that, particularly with the "These rights apply equally to all adults and children within our household" at the top really made me think about how we (myself personally, and people in general) treat children differently than adults. Any adult would be horrified if another adult tried to challenge their right to any of these things, yet if you asked those same adults which of the statements apply to children, they'd probably cross about half of them off.
a big :
post #477 of 582
LTB, that looks like a great start. I should do something like that around here. Goodness knows we need it. If you want brevity, I would say maybe try pulling out the themes and grouping items under that theme? Like in our nation's Bill of Rights we have things like: "Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Now, we know that entails a lot more than what is really listed there, but it's been discussed, and refers to lots of rights.
Just a thought.

As for looks, yeah, I probably do look pretty crunchy. I really should post some pics of me on my blog. I'll have to get to that. I have very long hair (to my waist), I almost never wear makeup, I wear skirts a lot in the summer that are calico or cotton, the kids and I wear a lot homemade tie dye. I wear Birkenstocks and Dansko's. The Dansko's are new because I wore my Doc Marten maryjanes to death. To church I wear a hand-knitted skirt, my tie skirt, my sari or my Kebaya often. Sometimes I wear something a little more normal. Some sisters in RS have commented that they love coming to church and seeing what I will be wearing next. I used to have a rotating hair color thing going in hs, but since it is so long now, I hesitate to color it. In hs it was so short it was actually shaved a bit in the back. So I figured if I messed up the dye job, I could just shave it if it got too bad.
Most ppl at church know I cloth diaper and don't vax. They also figured out that I was nursing G, who is adopted. I did have to go to the mother's lounge for that because with a lact-aid, there is no such thing as being discreet. Though I did get good enough that I would nurse him in RS after awhile.
I have managed to convert one mom to cloth, and made some diapers for a mom who wanted some in her emergency supply. Since a popular area midwife moved to our ward, she has done a lot to increase awareness of natural birth. There are already women who were aware of how our food choices affect our bodies, which is nice too. All in all I love our ward. I just wish we were closer to Portland so I didn't have to drive so much.
post #478 of 582
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Originally Posted by nakagain View Post
Now I have a weird question...does anyone "look" stereo typical of a crunchy mama?

I for sure don't.
Through and through. My typical outfit, whether at home or at church, is a t shirt and a homemade broom skirt. And I wear socks with sandles in winter.
post #479 of 582
Also, we've brought DS to church activities in a black skull and crossbones onesie. So maybe we're not crunchy so much as young punks still pretending we're young. Hot Topics store, anyone? Because that's where we bought that onesie. And we felt like icky old people getting odd stares from the young people.
post #480 of 582
do i look crucnchy? i don't think so. in my mind how i would like to dress i guess i do but with what i have now i don't know what i look like. however i have been tolded i look like a "hippie" because all i wear are jeans, Northern Sun T-Shirts, no makeup and sandals. but that is far from crunchy or hippie in my mind. to the mainstreamers who call me that i guess it's true. : not to me. now if and when i ever get those dreadlocs i've wanted and get around to making myself those skirts....
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