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post #21 of 24
I wanted to address this:

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I do think there is truth to the concept of "herd immunity" and to the claims that those who don't vaccinate are getting the benefit of diseases being rare but not willing to take the risk that others take to create the benefit. If everyone was afraid of vaccinations like I am - we'd probably still be dying of Smallpox.
I totally believe in herd immunity. But how protected our kids are kinda breaks down when you look at everything disease by disease.
WC is one of the scarier VPDs, but the vaccine doesn't create any kind of herd immunity. Same with tetanus and diphtheria.
Mumps is basically becoming endemic again, because the vax wears off (not a big deal, though, because mumps is actually less deadly than chickenpox)...rubella is only an issue for pregnant women in the first trimester.
Measles is more severe, but even that one usually isn't that big of a deal for healthy kids. If anything, our kids are mooching off other kids' ability to not transmit measles to an infant or immunocompromised person.

With smallpox, it was isolation and "ring vaccination" that eradicated it; not mass vaccination. Plus, smallpox was successfully eliminated in areas that didn't use the vaccine at all. Because smallpox is unique in that it's not contagious before there are classic smallpox "pox", quarantine and isolation alone could have eradicated it. But the vaccine probably did help it become eradicated a little faster than if there was no vaccine.

Anyway, break the VPDs down disease and vaccine by disease and vaccine at a time, and you'll see that the whole "antivax kids are protected by others who vax" thing is really grossly overstated.
post #22 of 24

what harm can vaccinations cause?

Im really new to this whole message board thing and wasnt sure where to ask, but what is the deal with vaccinations? Im newly pregnant, and have never heard about all the vaccinations that are the norm to get, and completely new to the idea that they could be bad for the baby (though I'm not surprised). What are some of the reasons not to get vaccinations? What harm do they cause?
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Im really new to this whole message board thing and wasnt sure where to ask, but what is the deal with vaccinations? Im newly pregnant, and have never heard about all the vaccinations that are the norm to get, and completely new to the idea that they could be bad for the baby (though I'm not surprised). What are some of the reasons not to get vaccinations? What harm do they cause?
Welcome!

Research each vaccine and disease. When I compared the risk and benefit for each I found no vaccines that were worth the risk for my kids.

-Angela
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Im really new to this whole message board thing and wasnt sure where to ask, but what is the deal with vaccinations? Im newly pregnant, and have never heard about all the vaccinations that are the norm to get, and completely new to the idea that they could be bad for the baby (though I'm not surprised). What are some of the reasons not to get vaccinations? What harm do they cause?
Hi :

There is a ton of information here in the archives, and you can also start your own thread with specific questions that you have. The women on the board totally rock.

In my experience this was the one place on the internet where I found an honest and factual discussion about vaccination. No one was trying to scare me into making any decision, but rather helping me get the information to make an informed decision.

Good luck!
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